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As long as the sacred rock remains safely in Goonpa's possession I'm fine with anything. e: important update/vote in last page!
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Black Robe posted:There are trees in this general area, that's why we camped here. I call bullshit that there wasn't one within easy hobbling distance, especially given that we're on the bank of a goddamn river. Actually, there not being trees around is fair play on the game's part. It's actually generally pretty good about visual cues for that: If there's at least one tree visible in your view, it means that there's at least a few trees available for hanging backpacks etcetera, while you need to be in a proper forested area to actually be able to make things out of wood, simulating the need for specific types of lumber or specific thickness of wood etcetera. Also, no on the torches discussed earlier. Making a decently long burning torch with materials found in the wild is very difficult, and would require a lot of luck. I'm by no means an expert, but the only good material I can think of in the northern hemisphere is fatwood, the core of rotting pine stumps which contain a huge amount of flammable pine resin. This is actually a neat outdoorsman trick - you can easily check rotting pine stumps for fatwood by kicking them. If there is a hard core, there is fatwood to be harvested which can be used as an excellent fire starting tool, since it will burn quite handily even when wet.
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Aug 22, 2018 20:42
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Restore that save.
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Aug 22, 2018 20:43
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Yeah, let's restore.
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Covski posted:Actually, there not being trees around is fair play on the game's part. It's actually generally pretty good about visual cues for that: If there's at least one tree visible in your view, it means that there's at least a few trees available for hanging backpacks etcetera, while you need to be in a proper forested area to actually be able to make things out of wood, simulating the need for specific types of lumber or specific thickness of wood etcetera. Sure, though if you're near pine trees it's not actually too difficult to make a pine resin torch with a fire, a stick, a rock to work on, pine resin and some charcoal. Bit of a bitch to get burning and not exactly fire safety conscious, but it works. I figure we have to restore this save thing. Call it divine intervention to make up for Gamle Erik intervention.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:38
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The power of our ancestral rock will restore us.
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Aug 22, 2018 22:43
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This is obviously just a bad dream brought about by not eating our required 4000 calories a day. We'll wake up and give a sigh of relief after finding our massive food rations are still with us.
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Aug 22, 2018 23:13
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Restore the save, but leave the rock behind. No second chances, it can protect you no longer.
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Aug 23, 2018 00:14
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That seems right, it's done its work, now we should let it fly free. There'll probably be a big musical swell as we stand there staring at it.
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Aug 23, 2018 00:32
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Cicadalek posted:Restore the save, but leave the rock behind. No second chances, it can protect you no longer. Smite the heretic!
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Aug 23, 2018 00:32
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Cicadalek posted:Restore the save, but leave the rock behind. No second chances, it can protect you no longer. Agreed.
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Aug 23, 2018 02:02
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D O N O T A B A N D O N T H E R O C K
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Aug 23, 2018 02:43
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Goonpa needs to eat the rock. It's got valuable nutrients and he'll gain whatever remains of its power.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:35
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Cicadalek posted:Restore the save, but leave the rock behind. No second chances, it can protect you no longer. Heretic! Your faith is weak! May you forever forget to pick your stuff up when you leave anywhere!
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Aug 23, 2018 07:40
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Restore wins by an unanimous vote! This was the outcome I expected and hoped for in my heart of hearts, but there was no way I wasn't going to show off such an amazing blunder. Next update will probably be on Sunday, assuming I'm not too worn out by all the festivities  Feel free to continue debating whether or not to leave the ancestral rock behind as penance.I have to say though, hilariously facepalm-inducing moments such as this last episode is one of the reasons I really enjoy this game. A mistake like that could easily been committed by an unaware or sloppy outdoorsman in real life. In fact, it happened to me despite having played the game enough that I should really know better. This is one of the things Wilderness really gets right: A survival situation like this really forces you to develop a routine and stick to it since even small errors can have grave consequences far from civilisation, and the game really gets you into this mindset. Even though it can seem like monotonous busywork, the way the game forces you to stick to a careful routine and not getting sloppy about things that can seem mundane but are in fact critical is a really important lesson, and is strangely immersive to me. I really don't mind the game punishing me for forgetting to boil my water, hang my backpack, or properly shielding myself from the elements or dangerous insects. What does get annoying however are the mistakes that you would never make in real life, such as walking away from your backpack by accident or forgetting to use your knife while making shelter. But hey, it's hard to fault a game this ambitious made in 1986 for not having the most friendly ui ever. Since it's gonna be a few days until next update, a topic for discussion: Seeing as the river shore has a complete absence of trees, should we consider camping in the forest instead? It's an hour or so walk from the river, and it would further complicate the fire making situation since we'd need a fire both for sleeping and for sitting around fishing, but it would alleviate the risk of being surprised by hungry animals in our sleep. (I'm reasonably certain the whole "getting our entire backpack of food eaten by critters"-thing isn't an issue as long as we sleep next to it, but my confidence is a bit shaken at this point  )
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Aug 24, 2018 00:37
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Covski posted:(I'm reasonably certain the whole "getting our entire backpack of food eaten by critters"-thing isn't an issue as long as we sleep next to it, but my confidence is a bit shaken at this point
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Aug 24, 2018 00:45
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Leave behind the rock. Its power of protection has been spent.
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Haifisch posted:I remember from my manual-reading that it was very insistent about hanging the food being a vital part of the camp-making process, so I'd err on the side of caution here. Sleeping in the forest is more time-consuming but we can't afford to take many risks here. To be fair, I can run a test and make an executive decision to make camp in the forest if it is indeed a thing, since that would be kind of a ridiculous dick move. (I still don't think it is, if my memories from playing the game as a sloppy kid are correct) Potentially dangerous animals being attracted to the food is absolutely a risk we'd take however, but it's absolutely not guaranteed to happen either.
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Aug 24, 2018 01:10
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from my own sketchy memories, being inside a shelter will protect the backpack, yes. it MAY increase your chances of being ambushed by megafauna during the night though?
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Aug 24, 2018 01:11
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I say drop the rock, it's power saved Goonpa from an untimely demise, but now it is drained.
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Aug 24, 2018 01:18
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The only way for Goonpa to respectfully cease carrying the ancestral rock (and thus avoid instant divine retribution) is to take a way too long detour and cast it unto the hallowed murky depths of Goatse Lake. In other words I don't think it's a good idea, in fact quite the opposite.
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Aug 24, 2018 01:57
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Keep the rock, it saved us, we can't abandon it now.
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Aug 24, 2018 05:19
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Keep the rock, run a test to see if sleeping in the forest is necessary.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:11
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Sleep in Forest. Lose the One-Up
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Aug 24, 2018 20:53
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Sleep in the forest. Keep the rock. Honor the rock. Become the rock.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:59
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chitoryu12 posted:Become the rock. Well, that's next run's concept sorted.
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Aug 24, 2018 22:30
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While Goonpa slept, the rock sat by the small fire and waited. On top of a hot pan sat all of the food. The rock was tired of being carried like some passive object, the fetish of a fat old man who listened to the voices in his head. No, today he would teach the old man a lesson. Today, he would teach them all. Today, everybody would smell what the rock was cooking.
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Aug 25, 2018 02:57
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chitoryu12 posted:D O
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Aug 25, 2018 03:37
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chitoryu12 posted:A B A N D O N
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Aug 25, 2018 07:20
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I just want to state for the record that I am genuinely proud that it was my idle 'hey, why is there a rock on the inventory screen' comment right at the beginning that started a cult. 
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Aug 25, 2018 08:23
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Man, there is a war goin on in Goonpa's head over whether to keep or abandon the rock. Abandon it, by the way
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Aug 27, 2018 13:33
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Better to have died a small boy, than to drop this
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Aug 27, 2018 22:01
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ChaseSP posted:Leave behind the rock. Its power of protection has been spent. Yes, we are on our own now.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:02
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Actually if you drop the rock it'll become cursed, like a NetHack loadstone. By leaving it for another survivor you ensure their doom and thus are akin to a murderer.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:04
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Goonpa's done worse.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:07
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Actually if you drop the rock it'll become cursed, like a NetHack loadstone. By leaving it for another survivor you ensure their doom and thus are akin to a murderer. Well, I'm sold! Drop the rock!
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Aug 27, 2018 23:25
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Drop the rock. It can no longer help us.
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Aug 28, 2018 07:02
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biosterous posted:Well, I'm sold! Drop the rock!  Whether we drop the rock or not, I already called the authorities on you.I just hope I called the ones in the right city. And country.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzjUmi3VCGg
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