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There are some people who say that MVCI is their favorite one and it's probably a better game than DBFZ so I respect the hustle
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I just think the most egregious thing about the Tira announcement is that it came out before the entire base roster had been revealed, which is insane.
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Yeah but at least they really seem to have regretted the poo poo out of it. They copped to it and acknowledge that it was a bad move, and I can respect that bit at least. It will probably happen two more times before October 18th.Ultramega posted:See also; people who legitimately consider Xenoverse superior to FighterZ Xenoverse is like an entirely different genre, and I like both Xeno and Fighterz but yeah they're not even in the same tier. Xenoverse has so much jank and also it's like an action RPG more than it is a fighting game. VVVV Yeah at least if you're like horrendously lovely you'll still get some people streaming and getting hyped over it for irony or whatever. The only thing MVC:I is going to be remembered for is killing the Marvel community lol Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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My limited experience with MVCI made me think it had similar issues to DBFZ - infinite blockstrings, samey gameplans - sometimes exacerbated (the combos), sometimes softened (at least mixups are better), but it also felt worse to move around in and looked thrice as bad. It's not a BAD game, it's just lazy as gently caress and there's nothing worse than being mediocre.
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Babe Magnet posted:I wouldn't know, I jumped on the Fighterz hype train and never looked back Same except they all switched to BBTag immediately when that was in "open" beta
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The very first BBTAG event was on setups of people who had preordered and had access to the demo and even playing that game with 90% of the content gated I knew it was leaps and bounds better than DBFZ.
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Aug 28, 2018 21:37
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Dias posted:My limited experience with MVCI made me think it had similar issues to DBFZ - infinite blockstrings, samey gameplans - sometimes exacerbated (the combos), sometimes softened (at least mixups are better), but it also felt worse to move around in and looked thrice as bad. I have never played either game but I can say with confidence that there is no way in hell MVCI looks only thrice as bad as the beautiful DBFZ.
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MVCI looks like a mobile game what was the name of that marvel mobile fighter that came out around the same time? it looked exactly like that
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BBTag feels all weird and still controls like Blazblue, if it was more like UNISTag I'd probably enjoy it more. It doesn't help that everyone around here instantly went "eeeeeeeeeeeewwww" after Week One and stopped playing it. It's a good game for people that suck at fighting games like me tho, I'll give it that.
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BBTag's dlc stuff also kind of sucked mega hard to death, but the game is good so I don't know. Don't like when people try and pretend it isn't lovely though.
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Babe Magnet posted:MVCI looks like a mobile game It was said that budget wise, the amount of $$$ and resources that went into Street Fighter V's DLC and DLC costumes is the same amount of $$$ and resources that went into the entire game of MvC Infinite. Absolutely stunning misfire of a game on multiple levels. I remember all the Jedi Mind Trick caliber interview shenanigans trying to justify the roster as something that was amazing and not just that they weren't allowed to use X-Men or Fantastic Four anything and had to focus on MCU stuff. "I mean when it comes down to it, no one actually LIKES Dr. Doom you know?" 
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Babe Magnet posted:MVCI looks like a mobile game That's because they reused some of the assets from that game with new textures on them.
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They painted over mvc3 with a lot of poorly lit ugly and made 6 new characters...if you paid 90
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In Training posted:There are some people who say that MVCI is their favorite one and it's probably a better game than DBFZ so I respect the hustle This- this is me. Mechanically, at least, MvC:I is the best Marvel game by a country mile and I will choke out anyone on their loving salty pringles who try to claim otherwise. It just feels like the final realization of the 2v2 team idea that first got dabbled in with MvC1 and it’s various mechanics instead of just being a tag fighter. A lot of the characters feel good to play, the gems feel real good (at least now that the Reality Stone is back somewhat in line with the others) and the newcomers like Jedah, X, Winter Soldier, Ultron, Sigma, and Monster Hunter are some of the slickest additions to the series in terms of at the very least gameplay. (Also, I have words about how bad it feels to actually play DBFZ when both players have enough grasp of the mechanics to know how to basically make 15+ second blockstrings most of the cast can’t escape without meter or deflect timing you’re not going to get via netplay, but that’s not this discussion) That said, I can admit that pretty much everything else about MvC:I is terrible horseshit - the character choices besides the newcomers, the aesthetics, the weird emphasis on the lovely story mode- and it’s probably dying the death it deserves. But I’m still happy to play the drat game when the chance arises.
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Mr. Locke posted:This- this is me. Mechanically, at least, MvC:I is the best Marvel game by a country mile and I will choke out anyone on their loving salty pringles who try to claim otherwise. they removed assists because the developers thought casual players couldn't understand picking one of three options and balanced the game in a way that specifically only fucks over morrigan because too many people watching streams complained it was boring watching her throw soul fists oh, and because of the insane way combo scaling works every character does the same damage and has the same corner carry and the same meter build off any combo and doing something more complicated gets you 0.01% more reward than doing abcd launcher abcd knockdown abcd launcher abcd knockdown
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Mr. Locke posted:This- this is me. Mechanically, at least, MvC:I is the best Marvel game by a country mile and I will choke out anyone on their loving salty pringles who try to claim otherwise. It just feels like the final realization of the 2v2 team idea that first got dabbled in with MvC1 and it’s various mechanics instead of just being a tag fighter. A lot of the characters feel good to play, the gems feel real good (at least now that the Reality Stone is back somewhat in line with the others) and the newcomers like Jedah, X, Winter Soldier, Ultron, Sigma, and Monster Hunter are some of the slickest additions to the series in terms of at the very least gameplay. You do you, but I have the distinct feeling "I will choke out anyone who tries to claim MvCI isn't the best" doesn't bode well with the concept that you have any objective basis for thinking it's a good game.
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MVCI coming after MVC3 was a bigger disappointment than MVC3 coming after MVC2.
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DBZF rules and MVCI is the worst playing marvel game by a loving mile including rise of the imperfects.
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darealkooky posted:they removed assists because the developers thought casual players couldn't understand picking one of three options and balanced the game in a way that specifically only fucks over morrigan because too many people watching streams complained it was boring watching her throw soul fists Fair cop about the scaling. I like how it makes MvCI more reset heavy along with the tag changes but if you’re coming for big combos big damage you get only half of that and it kicks in too hard too fast. My preferences are not everyone’s preferences. The assist thing is because they did a whole new thing using Tags. I dunno what the ‘too complex’ thing is because MvCI tagging is way more complex then MvC2/3- era assists. Morrigan was a loser in the shift but there are others like Ultron who have taken up the oppressive zoning mantle.
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Zand posted:mvci design decisions were made by choosing the path of least resistance through youtube and kotaku article comments Man, I don't even think it was that, I think it was the least path of resistance through having no cash and probably fed-up employees. They had the one cool idea from SFxT - active tag - and kinda half-assed a game around it.
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Mr. Locke posted:Morrigan was a loser in the shift but there are others like Ultron who have taken up the oppressive zoning mantle. Ulton zoning works while morrigan doesn't because the new tag mechanic means that making someone eat a beam means that they also eat a mixup/pressure for free, and unlike morrigan fireballs you can't just pushblock beams away to reflect them back at people. the chip damage itself is still terrible it's just some characters have good projectiles to start offensive play with, there are no characters who have oppressive zoning where they don't especially care if you just sit there blocking forever the way some characters in every single previous marvel game do. it's also petty  that they decided the main way to nerf keepaway is something that only works against projectiles instead of beams when most capcom characters have projectiles and most marvel ones have beams, with one of the few marvel characters that doesn't use beams, gamora, having gunshots you just can't reflect for seemingly no reason at all but that's getting into "marvel told them to make capcom characters bad on purpose" conspiracy theory stuff
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dragon enthusiast posted:they announced a worse DLC model at first so people accepted it more after they pulled away from it Ah, the New Coke of dlc.
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darealkooky posted:Ulton zoning works while morrigan doesn't because the new tag mechanic means that making someone eat a beam means that they also eat a mixup/pressure for free, and unlike morrigan fireballs you can't just pushblock beams away to reflect them back at people. the chip damage itself is still terrible it's just some characters have good projectiles to start offensive play with, there are no characters who have oppressive zoning where they don't especially care if you just sit there blocking forever the way some characters in every single previous marvel game do. If that streamer's story about how he couldn't use footage of Marvel characters being beaten by capcom characters is real then gently caress me is that some control freak poo poo. No one is not going to see the Avengers because Captain America lost to Ryu, jesus christ Disney.
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In Training posted:But nobody in their right mind would buy a story expansion for a FG that only added Lore cutscenes. Millions of people would, and not even for cutscenes, they could art slideshows and make a lot of money that way. People care about this poo poo and even poverty games should be milking those people because it ain't that hard.
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Persona 4 Arena's story mode was basically a slideshow and it did pretty good business. Also doesn't Blazblue have like 4 visual novel games?
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So far i've paid like 50-60 bucks and gotten half a dozen fighting games ranging from barely-playable silly anime overdose to more-depth-in-a-single-character-than-i-could-learn-in-a-year games with giant rooster sizes that's not even counting bbtag, which i'm still waiting on a sale for, which would be the first casual tag game If i'm any indication for the giant casual mass that doesn't buy every new/obscure title on launch day instead of waiting for a sale i can see why they're struggling to get at least the people who put thousands of hours into each game to whale a bit. PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Millions of people would, and not even for cutscenes, they could art slideshows and make a lot of money that way. People care about this poo poo and even poverty games should be milking those people because it ain't that hard. also i've actually tried to get through the blazblue visual novel storymodes and it's such an insane mess, i'd probably play a premium to replace it with nothing but gag reels. Or, more honestly, for them to give a poo poo about netcode RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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RoadCrewWorker posted:giant rooster sizes heh heh heh
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Literally me playing fighting games
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When my Vice game is on point.
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Can you add the hit/hurtboxes please
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Finally pulling the trigger
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