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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lonoxmont posted:

Well yeah, but at least he is trying to put the idea out there that maybe staying on just one planet might not be the best idea.

why not? what possible event could selectively wipe out all traces of life on earth but not mars? because for at least the next ~200 years even doing stuff like "building a giant undersea dome city" or "excavating a bunch of vault-tec vaults all over the world" will be cheaper and way more practical than "self-sustaining large mars colony."

i don't think people really appreciate how valuable stuff like "has had a biosphere for billions of years" or "has a magnetic field" or "has atmospheric pressure we can survive at" is tbh, and even a giant asteroid won't get rid of either of those to the point where the planet becomes mars-like. the only thing that might sterilize the earth would be a nearby supernova, but that'd cook mars even worse due to its lack of a magnetic field

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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Pretty sure the most likely scenario in the short term is "rising tensions due to climate change, until someone snaps and pushes the big button".

Or maybe Putin does it on his deathbed as a big ol' gently caress you.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Jabor posted:

Or maybe Putin does it on his deathbed as a big ol' gently caress you.

This seems like much more of a Trump thing

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Lonoxmont posted:

Well yeah, but at least he is trying to put the idea out there that maybe staying on just one planet might not be the best idea.

Though, now that I think about it, it might not be good for that idea's survival if it comes from him...

there is 0 value to "putting the idea out there", btw

sci fi authors have been doing that for a very long time

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ate all the Oreos posted:

why not? what possible event could selectively wipe out all traces of life on earth but not mars? because for at least the next ~200 years even doing stuff like "building a giant undersea dome city" or "excavating a bunch of vault-tec vaults all over the world" will be cheaper and way more practical than "self-sustaining large mars colony."

uh a shitload of stuff could, which is why elon musk was like 80 years late to being "The guy who pointed out maybe humans should be on multiple planets"

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007

maybe humans should be on zero planets

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

This seems like much more of a Trump thing

Sometimes I wonder if when Trump is flailing in his dementia in 2019 and orders a nuke somewhere, if the bootlickers will actually stand up to him

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

infernal machines posted:

i can't keep people alive in a car i sell, something that thousands of others have managed for over a century. let me tell you about how i'm going to build a tin can to travel hundred of millions of miles to another planet, with no breathable atmosphere or liquid water, and fill it with people

its gwynne shotwell whos gonna actually do it, shes actually really competent. there was an equivalent really competent guy in tesla but he quit

musk scrapes the money together, something he's not that bad at. surprisingly good pr guy for a person who can't speak in public worth poo poo

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
I'm starting to really believe the theory Trump's got late stage syphilis

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

I'm starting to really believe the theory he's got late stage syphilis

rich dudes get overtreated as hell
no way he hasn't gotten extensive blood tests for stupid reasons

e: ok, i thought sensual dad kiss was talking about musko

trump i could believe

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Lonoxmont posted:

If I had to pick one thing seriously, I'd say maybe his desire/commitment to trying to get us off of this hunk of rock before it gets completely dickered.

if only he put any effort into not dickering the rock

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

we ruined this planet for shareholder profits but we can just reach and terraform a new one no problem
keep in mind that climate change is literally global terraforming

you know that slider in sword of the stars where you can change the environmental slider to terraform a planet into inhospitability? yah we're doing that

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

the age old dream of colonizing mars and mining asteroids in Space Apartheid,

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

OldAlias posted:

the age old dream of colonizing mars and mining asteroids in Space Apartheid,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

lol of you don’t believe the first Musk mars rocket would be filled with VCs

until it explodes five minutes after taking off

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Zikan posted:

lol of you don’t believe the first Musk mars rocket would be filled with VCs

until it explodes five minutes after taking off

Verified Chumps

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Zikan posted:

lol of you don’t believe the first Musk mars rocket would be filled with VCs

until it explodes five minutes after taking off

i'll admit this would be something that would probably make me like elong muslk.

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice
earth has been ruined by capitalists. what if we sent elon munk, richard bransen, and jebf bezzos to mars, and here's the kicker, hope that they survive?/

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

maybe humans should be on zero planets

hell yeah who wants to be stuck at the bottom of a ~gravity well~? space habitats wooo!! :yayclod:

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
So Ol' Musky has the tracklogs for his private jet hidden on FlightAware and the like.

Turns out that a bunch of Airplane Nerds put together a network of receivers that aggregate the ADS-B transmissions from airplanes, and their take is 'the data is broadcast, unencrypted in the open so we're not going to participate in something stupid when it doesn't do anything to actually improve security' so here's where you watch to see when he heads up to Burning Man for the weekend

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

Jimmy Carter posted:

So Ol' Musky has the tracklogs for his private jet hidden on FlightAware and the like.

Turns out that a bunch of Airplane Nerds put together a network of receivers that aggregate the ADS-B transmissions from airplanes, and their take is 'the data is broadcast, unencrypted in the open so we're not going to participate in something stupid when it doesn't do anything to actually improve security' so here's where you watch to see when he heads up to Burning Man for the weekend

am i reading this wrong or are you suggesting that aircraft in federal airspace should either not broadcast their position unencrypted or airplane nerds shouldn't record unencrypted broadcasts? It's a bigger safety concern that private sport pilots can know where other planes are including private corporate jets and carrier jets in relation to them in uncontrolled airspace than the fact that airplane nerds can log where elon munsk is

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Roosevelt posted:

Sometimes I wonder if when Trump is flailing in his dementia in 2019 and orders a nuke somewhere, if the bootlickers will actually stand up to him

only if he tries to glass that creationist theme park in tennessee or w/e.

Mozzie
Oct 26, 2007
The tunnels, the electric vehicles, solar panels, big rockets, his idiot brothers indoor farming. Everything this prick does is all for his big gay fantasy martian jonestown of libertarians, with all the childblood u can drink

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Mozzie posted:

The tunnels, the electric vehicles, solar panels, big rockets, his idiot brothers indoor farming. Everything this prick does is all for his big gay fantasy martian jonestown of libertarians, with all the childblood u can drink

actually he’s a socialist

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

President Beep posted:

only if he tries to glass that creationist theme park in tennessee or w/e.

please don,t, Mr. President

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

creationist believer posted:

am i reading this wrong or are you suggesting that aircraft in federal airspace should either not broadcast their position unencrypted or airplane nerds shouldn't record unencrypted broadcasts? It's a bigger safety concern that private sport pilots can know where other planes are including private corporate jets and carrier jets in relation to them in uncontrolled airspace than the fact that airplane nerds can log where elon munsk is

What

The planes must broadcast properly, being in airspace is being in the public. There is no right to privacy.

Everyone is supposed to know where other planes are at all times, it prevents crashes

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

creationist believer posted:

am i reading this wrong or are you suggesting that aircraft in federal airspace should either not broadcast their position unencrypted or airplane nerds shouldn't record unencrypted broadcasts? It's a bigger safety concern that private sport pilots can know where other planes are including private corporate jets and carrier jets in relation to them in uncontrolled airspace than the fact that airplane nerds can log where elon munsk is

i think he’s trying to tease Elon for trying to block data on FlightAware when the raw data is available for anyone to grab

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE

creationist believer posted:

am i reading this wrong or are you suggesting that aircraft in federal airspace should either not broadcast their position unencrypted or airplane nerds shouldn't record unencrypted broadcasts? It's a bigger safety concern that private sport pilots can know where other planes are including private corporate jets and carrier jets in relation to them in uncontrolled airspace than the fact that airplane nerds can log where elon munsk is

lol no I was making fun of the fact that FlightAware being corporate af for no reason whereas there's cyberpunks for aircraft data.

ADS-B is cool and good. Everyone's freaking out because some people won't get their new radios installed in time for the cutoff date, so now there's people making beacons that replace your taillight because that requires less installation cost.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Lonoxmont posted:

I just realised that seth efrikin and kiwi accents are closer together than I thought.

well yeah they’re both in australia

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

fishmech posted:

What

The planes must broadcast properly, being in airspace is being in the public. There is no right to privacy.

Everyone is supposed to know where other planes are at all times, it prevents crashes

that was my question. my reading of jimmy carter's post was there was some kind of perceived privacy/security risk to ads-b being unencrypted and/or privately received/stored, either by jimmy or by the burning man people. but that undermines the purpose of ads-b

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

maybe humans should be on zero planets

It's this.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm7BDbPh7Rh/


i remember reading something about how musk got caught in a lie about going straight home from some european meeting and he went to ireland for a day, and i guess he got mad

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
he claimed to never ever take vacations in a recent interview

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

the got layover in Ireland was a layover from 4am to 10am.

supposedly his kids went. Elon could’ve slept through it and never left his plane

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he claimed to never ever take vacations in a recent interview

burning man isn't really a vacation...

i mean, it's not, it's like a networking thing for billionaire SV fuckstains right?

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

infernal machines posted:

burning man isn't really a vacation...

i mean, it's not, it's like a networking thing for billionaire SV fuckstains right?

sure just like ceos work during lunch because they're important people and its important business lunches. Any time a ceo is around other important influential people in any context its not work because they're important people networking and thats why they make so much more than us.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
maybe if you found a way to monetize your every waking moment you too could be a billionaire SV fuckstain

makes you think

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

infernal machines posted:

maybe if you found a way to monetize your every waking moment you too could be a billionaire SV fuckstain

makes you think

hell, i wish. if petting cats made me money i'd be set.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Lonoxmont posted:

Either his ability to consistently come up with the worst possible solutions to problems that don't exist/he made up, or the ease with which he is ridiculed.

The accent is pretty amusing too.

If I had to pick one thing seriously, I'd say maybe his desire/commitment to trying to get us off of this hunk of rock before it gets completely dickered.

Haha sure he wants to take us* off this rock.



*Rich white people

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Jimmy Carter posted:

now there's people making beacons that replace your taillight because that requires less installation cost.

this owns

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