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I liked that they made Luke question the implications of being a Jedi and poo poo but the jokes were loving stupid.
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40-Degree Day posted:I liked that they made Luke question the implications of being a Jedi and poo poo but the jokes were loving stupid. Kind of undercut the tone they wanted. Could be a rewrite thing but I don’t want to just say the bad things in a movie are rewrites as that feels unfair.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:04
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40-Degree Day posted:I liked that they made Luke question the implications of being a Jedi and poo poo but the jokes were loving stupid. Yeah. The jokes felt really out of place, even though it's not like there's never been humor in Star Wars before. Though maybe I'm just old.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:12
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Ford had some awful jokes in the OT but his delivery was so good they're unnoticeable until you take them out of context
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Aug 29, 2018 20:15
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CYBEReris posted:Ford had some awful jokes in the OT but his delivery was so good they're unnoticeable until you take them out of context I'm glad you're here to tell us these things!
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Aug 29, 2018 20:24
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it's good to know things about the little-known movie, The Star Wars
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Aug 29, 2018 20:29
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SgtSteel91 posted:Main arguments I see are “Luke would never give up on Ben or try to murder Ben in his sleep” or “Luke would never abandon the galaxy and be a hobo while TFO was running amok and Ben was being evil” The first one is the main complaint that I've heard. Again, I've not seen The Last Jedi, but when I heard that, I thought it did sound really out of character. I remember Hamill said that he was really unhappy with the direction they took Luke's character a while after the movie released. At the time, I didn't really know what the context was with all that, but I remember hearing he eventually accepted it. I still sort of wonder, though, if he did so begrudgingly. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 20:31
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As someone who was a big fan of Star Wars as a kid, and Luke in specific, it was a surprising choice, but also didn't seem to be totally out of character. Especially given that there were decades in between for life to get to him.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:35
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Junpei Hyde posted:TLJ loving owned and I am 100% done with skits in internet reviews at this point They can be done well. Last time I watched his stuff, Linkara kept the plot to after the review so you could bounce out after the plot if you didn't care about it.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:35
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Puppy Time posted:As someone who was a big fan of Star Wars as a kid, and Luke in specific, it was a surprising choice, but also didn't seem to be totally out of character. Especially given that there were decades in between for life to get to him. same. its a darker turn but its a realistic one. he just wants the jedi to go away, he caused enough pain and he believes the jedi have hosed up to many times and grow their own monsters as a result.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:38
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Dapper_Swindler posted:same. its a darker turn but its a realistic one. he just wants the jedi to go away, he caused enough pain and he believes the jedi have hosed up to many times and grow their own monsters as a result. That’s kind of silly. The jedi going away ain’t gonna stop the force from being a thing.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:41
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s kind of silly. is it?
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Aug 29, 2018 20:42
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RLM are kinda bad critics and I feel like they once read a Robert McKee screenwriting book and now everything has to conform to rigid storytelling. I also think using behind the scenes clips to justify some of their points is bullshit. *Actor has questions about their character* "See! Even the actors know the script is bad!" Yes, this is what happens on nearly every movie. It's part of what actors do.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:42
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Dapper_Swindler posted:is it? Yeah but Jedi bad has kind of crept into the subconscious and I don’t think it’s going away, despite it being kind of dumb.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:44
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CYBEReris posted:it's good to know things about the little-known movie, The Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13fen80rnnk
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Aug 29, 2018 20:52
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Max Wilco posted:The first one is the main complaint that I've heard. Again, I've not seen The Last Jedi, but when I heard that, I thought it did sound really out of character. It still seems odd to me that while Luke was set up in TFA to have self-exiled as a result of failing Ben, people didn't expect him in TLJ to act like a hermit who wanted nothing to do with the Force. Like, what was their expectation? That he would act like Yoda in Empire?
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Aug 29, 2018 20:55
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TheMaestroso posted:It still seems odd to me that while Luke was set up in TFA to have self-exiled as a result of failing Ben, people didn't expect him in TLJ to act like a hermit who wanted nothing to do with the Force. Like, what was their expectation? That he would act like Yoda in Empire? I mean that is exactly why Yoda was where he was so that seems like a reasonable assumption.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:58
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I wish I could go back to a week ago when I didn't know about this cinemasins channel because this poo poo is insufferable.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:05
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40-Degree Day posted:I wish I could go back to a week ago when I didn't know about this cinemasins channel because this poo poo is insufferable. Well,lucky for you there's several videos dissecting them in detail.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:11
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TheMaestroso posted:It still seems odd to me that while Luke was set up in TFA to have self-exiled as a result of failing Ben, people didn't expect him in TLJ to act like a hermit who wanted nothing to do with the Force. Like, what was their expectation? That he would act like Yoda in Empire? i assume they thought he would be like old canon luke or obi wan.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:16
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Look, is no one gonnna address the fact that the Jedi Rules and Regulations are contained in goddamn BOOKS? I mean I get that the things you guys are bringing up are important and all, but I feel as though the main issue is being missed here. :/ VVV jesus christ you loving nerds, that was a joke! D: KayTee fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 21:51
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KayTee posted:Look, is no one gonnna address the fact that the Jedi Rules and Regulations are contained in goddamn BOOKS? My interpretation of the books was that they contain ancient Force techniques and guides on how to meditate and whatnot, I don't think they're full of Jedi Council bylaws, which surely existed on datapads.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:00
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KayTee posted:Look, is no one gonnna address the fact that the Jedi Rules and Regulations are contained in goddamn BOOKS? Yeah, shouldn't they be stored in Jedi Holocubes made out of Bespinian gas crystals or something equally bullshit established in some forgotten EU book(probably one that makes Leia some kind of space bigot)? All this chat about The Last Jedi made me try to watch it and by the time they get to the casino I'm bored enough that I'm taking a break to look at the forums instead, why does this movie get all the discussion?
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Aug 29, 2018 22:01
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WampaLord posted:My interpretation of the books was that they contain fancy Force techniques and guides on how to meditate and whatnot, I don't think they're full of Jedi Council bylaws. i kinda took it as like the original origional jedi texts before it became a full doctrine/brotherhood.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:01
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KayTee posted:Look, is no one gonnna address the fact that the Jedi Rules and Regulations are contained in goddamn BOOKS? Those books are from a longer time ago in a galaxy farther away.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:02
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Hel posted:
Because it's awesome.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:03
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Max Wilco posted:The first one is the main complaint that I've heard. Again, I've not seen The Last Jedi, but when I heard that, I thought it did sound really out of character. It comes up a lot but Hamill literally never likes any post-ANH writing for Luke when he reads it. I think I recall that he turned around on the characterization when he saw the finished product.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:07
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YEAH BUT HE SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE IT THAT WAS HIS REAL OPINION BEFORE DISNEY TOLD HIM TO SHUT UP
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Aug 29, 2018 22:07
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Internet Personality + Review Thread: jesus christ you loving nerds, that was a joke! D:
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KayTee posted:VVV jesus christ you loving nerds, that was a joke! D: Maybe you should have made it funny? 
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Aug 29, 2018 22:20
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Rapidly Going Deaf >Internet Personality + Review Thread 3.0+1.0: We Can (Not) Stop Talking About Star Wars
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Aug 29, 2018 22:21
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The Last Jedi is a really good Dune Messiah movie.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:25
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I like how the finale of the last jedi was literally in a plain of salt just like the internet when it comes to Star Wars
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Aug 29, 2018 22:26
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Annointed posted:I like how the finale of the last jedi was literally in a plain of salt just like the internet when it comes to Star Wars The final fight was literally an angry teenager flailing around trying to hit something he hated that wasn't actually there on a plain of salt. It's like poetry, it's rhymes.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:32
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Puppy Time posted:I think the main thing about the Luke plotline is that a lot of dudes imprinted hard on him as kids, and wanted more of him being an Awesome Jedi Knight, so skipping over all that and seeing him as a broken and sad old man is hard. And then combine that with the Oh No SJWs! elements, it gets turned into "Star Wars is intentionally ruining my fun adventure!"
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Aug 29, 2018 23:00
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Bruce getting like that was also kind of more understandable. He was more compassionate than usual in btas but started to push others away when he was on a team and was never like Luke. And the inciting incident was very different. It was something a little more understandably harrowing to him and had others blaming him for it too. I think a bit of criticism brought up in the gbs thread for tlj is that the movie never shows Luke or Rey's really really important visions. Just the one for Rey that turned out to literally mean nothing. If we saw at least Luke's vision it might help the audience go along with Luke or Rey or whoever. And they have three hours of movie and billions of dollars to spare to show such an important vision. I think that if people sat down and talked about what worked for them with the movie and what didn't there could be an understanding made that certain things weren't well conveyed. Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 23:11
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You heard sounds of violence and death. I don’t see why you needed much else. Considering TFA already exists.
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Aug 29, 2018 23:24
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Hemingway To Go! posted:I think that if people sat down and talked about what worked for them with the movie and what didn't there could be an understanding made that certain things weren't well conveyed.  Honestly I checked out of the new movies after TFA and it sounds like I made the right decision because everything that drove me nuts about that seems to have carried forward.
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Aug 29, 2018 23:26
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I just think it's kind of unfair that despite having a woman as the lead, she has no arc and only exists to support the white men of the movies. But then again they're the ones writing the movies so what can you do
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I’ve heard every complaint about the movie, even from my best friend in real life. It didn’t help me understand anything because every time I’d explain it he’d say “nah uh”. It doesn’t matter. Each side saw a different movie in their heads and there’s nothing that will change that.
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