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BiggerBoat posted:Speaking of Pesci and SNL, this walk on aged pretty well and always cracks me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d3IM8lIASI
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Samuringa posted:They made an impression notable enough that many people began avoiding comedy movies just in case it was from them. I think at one point they admitted they stopped watching the actual movies and would just look at trailers and posters. So you got really awkward stuff like a horrifying panda costume going "I'm Kung-Fu Panda!" and that's the joke before they cut away. 
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BiggerBoat posted:Agreed, but I'm telling you, nobody knew what the gently caress she was trying to say. There may have been a lyric in the song but I didn't catch it and neither did anyone else I know. It'd be like someone tearing up a picture of Joe Paterno or Louis CK 15 or 20 years ago. I'm seconding this. The entire thing being an anti-sex abuse protest either was underreported or treated as a joke and it took on the appearance of an anti-religion/anti-Catholic thing, instead. I also think it might have been possibly confused by the Andrew Dice Clay appearance on SNL just before which had also lead to O'Connor to dropping out of appearing on the show previously. It might have gotten viewed by some as protest on her part against just SNL in general. "Oh, you're bringing on this guy whose claim to fame is that he's offensive? Well, then, get a load of this!"
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The press definitely went well out of its way to deliberately misinterpret and obfuscate what she did. "Oh those wacky Irish, eh? Always hating on that drat pope bloke." Also, she was obviously a strong woman with her own thoughts and opinions which terrifies most men. And she had shaved her head, meaning she hadn't dedicated herself to looking attractive for men. Which offends most men. So, yeah, no one was going to listen to her, but that's in no way her fault. 
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I've only listened to her music on the one Massive Attack album she did but it's really good.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yeah i never understood at all why people acted like brittney shaving her head was such a huge shocking scandal. Aside from the fact that she was having a meltdown it's her drat head. She can shave it if she wants to. Nobody has any right to dictate what she does with her hair so why is that anybody's business? Yeah, tell that to society in general. Britney was America's favorite jailbait, so in the eyes of any given rando, that meant it was her job to stay sexy for people, and a woman with a shaved head is not "conventionally" attractive - So obviously she was losing her drat mind and yadda yadda yadda.
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Sep 1, 2018 07:02
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the_steve posted:Yeah, tell that to society in general. And that right there is a big reason as why being famous is actually quite horrible. People picking over the tiniest details of your life (let along the big ones) to look for any reason to criticize you. Meanwhile acting entitled to a particular image. "NO! Britney must be sexy and long-haired!!!!!" Hate to break it to you but she's under no obligation at all to do that nor is any celebrity. Yet people get legitimately angry about that sort of thing. It's stupid. It's also like society expects famous people to just get frozen in time as one particular thing. No wonder so many famous people develop addictions or lose their minds. That pressure has got to be insane. "No, Britney, you have to keep being a teenager FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE."
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Samuringa posted:They made an impression notable enough that many people began avoiding comedy movies just in case it was from them. Apparently, Spy Hard came to be when Friedberg's dad (who was also the director) was directing one of Nielsen's golf instruction videos and mentioned that his son was writing a Bond parody. Nielsen supposedly liked the script, which I believe translates to him liking the money he'd get if he signed up to do the film. Later on, Friedberg and Seltzer started having trouble getting directors to work with them, so they started to film their own terrible scripts.
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https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-03/remembering-why-sinead-oconnor-tore-popes-picture-national-tvquote:And Jonathan King, a millionaire British television and record producer, and the executive producer of the BPI Awards, stated in an interview with Billboard that she needed to be spanked for her display of bad manners. Ten years later, King would be convicted of several counts of sexual assault on 14- and 15-year-old boys and sentenced to seven years in prison. http://snl.wikia.com/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O%27Connor quote:The stunt was also subject to further parodies and ridicules, such as when Madonna was the guest singer in 1993, she repeated the stunt, using the same words but tearing up a picture of Joseph Buttafuoco.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:And that right there is a big reason as why being famous is actually quite horrible. People picking over the tiniest details of your life (let along the big ones) to look for any reason to criticize you. Meanwhile acting entitled to a particular image. "NO! Britney must be sexy and long-haired!!!!!" Hate to break it to you but she's under no obligation at all to do that nor is any celebrity. Yet people get legitimately angry about that sort of thing. It's stupid. Mara Wilson had a lot to say about that sort of thing. She even wrote a cracked article about it: http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective/ Summary: The trick is to do it because you want to, her parents were against her going into acting. She stopped when it stopped being fun.
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Samuringa posted:They made an impression notable enough that many people began avoiding comedy movies just in case it was from them. Does make me wonder who the audience was that kept them in business. Teenagers, I presume. Or people who came because they had the trappings of comedy movies and took a while to realise there weren't any real jokes. Presumably the film equivalent of The Big Bang Theory's audience. I could swear they really did kill comedy movies for a while. Seems like more improv-heavy comedies replaced it, with mixed success.
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BioEnchanted posted:Mara Wilson had a lot to say about that sort of thing. She even wrote a cracked article about it: http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective/ Mara Wilson is a pro Twitter follow.
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the_steve posted:Yeah, tell that to society in general. Except she kind of was losing her mind. I think her assets are still being controlled by her father and Kevin Federline managed to sole primary custody of their kids, which is something no one ever saw coming. The way Spears was treated was bullshit, but she wasn't mentally well. I think a big thing with the head shaving was that it unrolled in real time, which was still really novel back then. No one cared much when she got married that one time because by the time news broke it was already annulled. But her bald head stuck in our collective mindset because we'd never seen someone we'd grown up with falling apart like that in public.
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The thing that sticks out the most about the whole Britney thing to me was that South Park did an episode on it. And everyone expected it to be heartlessly mocking her but the episode was incredibly sympathetic towards Britney and basically painted her as a literal sacrifice for the pop idol music industry.
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Mokinokaro posted:The thing that sticks out the most about the whole Britney thing to me was that South Park did an episode on it. Craig Ferguson stopped making fun of her, as well.
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And that was before we found out, or at least finally realised how clear it was, that Britney Spears was almost definitely a victim of underage sexual assault in the industry. And so was her sister, which cost her her TV show when she got pregnant.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And that was before we found out, or at least finally realised how clear it was, that Britney Spears was almost definitely a victim of underage sexual assault in the industry. And so was her sister, which cost her her TV show when she got pregnant. I believe there's a pretty ugly rumour that's been floating around the Internet for a few years that Jamie Lynn Spears might have been assaulted by Dan Schneider, who was the creator and producer of her Nickelodeon show, and that he's the real father of her child. To be honest, I'm actually sort of surprised that nobody accused Schneider of anything after Nickelodeon dropped him.
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Replace all child actors are CGI. It's not even like children acting leads to better adult actors. They usually suck once the cuteness wears off. Looking forward to Stranger Things season 12 where no one's voice has cracked and everybody stays the same.
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I feel like Schneider would have been pursued legally if he was the kids dad. Like sure, I could see Jamie not wanting to make it public...but at the same time, that's a hell of an awful way to have your 1st kid. Wasn't she like 16 or something?
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Look, guys. Molesterers are just a part of Hollywood, and child actors sure as hell aren't gonna be safe if grown-rear end adults can get molesterered on national TV at a funeral for a feminist icon by a member of the clergy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4js91h9B60A
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Mokinokaro posted:The thing that sticks out the most about the whole Britney thing to me was that South Park did an episode on it. Yeah, I appreciated the way South Park treated Michael Jackson as well, mostly because that's always been my view of him too--I always thought he was innocent of pedophilia, but was instead a deeply mentally ill man whose insanely abusive childhood kinda prevented him from properly maturing psychologically and emotionally, who then happened to be talented enough that the whole world was handed to him on a platinum platter.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Replace all child actors are CGI. It's not even like children acting leads to better adult actors. They usually suck once the cuteness wears off. More likely the other way around at this rate. Caleb's going to BMX up in the first ep of S4 looking like Fred Williamson and say "Sheeit, motherfuckers, high school!"
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Schmeichy posted:Speaking of Colbert and misplaced faith in things, has he made any jokes about the recent Catholic scandals? I know you probably didn't mean it this way but I don't think Colbert is loyal to the institution of the Catholic Church more so he is a believer in (most) of the teachings of Catholicism. It's not like he defends the church and its actions nor would he say that the institution isn't fallible, he just happens to really believe in the religion.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I know you probably didn't mean it this way but I don't think Colbert is loyal to the institution of the Catholic Church more so he is a believer in (most) of the teachings of Catholicism. It's not like he defends the church and its actions nor would he say that the institution isn't fallible, he just happens to really believe in the religion. He’s a fabian socialist and so probably doesn’t think too highly of the church as an institution.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I know you probably didn't mean it this way but I don't think Colbert is loyal to the institution of the Catholic Church more so he is a believer in (most) of the teachings of Catholicism. It's not like he defends the church and its actions nor would he say that the institution isn't fallible, he just happens to really believe in the religion. I meant that Colbert believed in America and had his faith deeply shaken in 2016, and also is a big Catholic and now has to deal with yet another institution letting him down. And he discusses current events on his show, so I was wondering if he was even able to joke about it. The man has to be so broken, as are we all lol.
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Most American Catholics are sort of their own thing, you can probably find someone else to explain it better than me, but it's more about the God-generally and a few select values and less about the Pope and the institution in the sense of the professionals who operate it.
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Pick posted:Most American Catholics are sort of their own thing, you can probably find someone else to explain it better than me, but it's more about the God-generally and a few select values and less about the Pope and the institution in the sense of the professionals who operate it. This is pretty true in general but I think Colbert was a pretty big fan of Francis so it’s gotta smart at least a little
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Francis only looks good because he's the guy who came after Ratzinger, who spent his pre-pope career hiding paedophiles all across Europe.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Francis only looks good because he's the guy who came after Ratzinger, who spent his pre-pope career hiding paedophiles all across Europe. Like the worlds worst easter egg hunt.
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Pick posted:Most American Catholics are sort of their own thing, you can probably find someone else to explain it better than me, but it's more about the God-generally and a few select values and less about the Pope and the institution in the sense of the professionals who operate it. The remaining percent (not counting lapsed folks like me) are fuckers like Donahue and Santorum, who secretly wish they were Evangelicals. Just pull a Pence and make the switch dudes.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Francis only looks good because he's the guy who came after Ratzinger, who spent his pre-pope career hiding paedophiles all across Europe. No, Francis looked really good before this. Here's the thing: in context. For a Pope. He was almost making reforms fast enough to get de-poped by angry old world Catholic officials. The church is still regressive as poo poo obviously, but he appeared to be at the top of the list of Popes That Aren't poo poo
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The Bloop posted:No, Francis looked really good before this. Where on earth do you get this idea? Francis is like history's greatest Optics Pope. He's the Obama of Popes. He isn't really changing anything that matters, and he doesn't intend to.
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burial posted:He appeared to be at the top of the list of Popes That Aren’t Obviously poo poo? Let me know anything that Francis has done that has materially changed the church's direction versus Benedict XVI or JP II.
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Pick posted:Let me know anything that Francis has done that has materially changed the church's direction versus Benedict XVI or JP II. I actually don’t know enough to respond meaningfully (even though my mom is/was extremely catholic and I generally try to keep up with this stuff.) I was just trying to helpfully amend the statement to something that might work for you, because you’re so kind-hearted. You said he’s good at optics so I took a stab.
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Pick posted:Let me know anything that Francis has done that has materially changed the church's direction versus Benedict XVI or JP II. Being the optics pope is why his being poo poo was not obvious
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That's ok, I'm not frustrated at you, to be honest my frustration more comes from a place where I want to see people demand more real change, like, generally speaking, and I resent feeling like I'm getting played  .I also sort of liked Benedict XVI, I know he didn't want to be Pope in part because his faith was (and is) incredibly, genuinely strong and he knew that the church needed an image update and he could not and would not be that person. His writing is really good by the way.
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