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infernal machines posted:more like zastava motors v2 Faraday future 2.0
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coffeetable posted:in the extreme, you could write tesla's market cap as 75% bankruptcy, 25% toyota v2.0. a year ago, I would have agreed there was a chance that we're looking at a global auto giant, even if it is a slim one after musky-boy's recent remarks, and the announcement of an sec investigation, the odds are not looking so good. in the immediate future, tesla needs new money. this is incontrovertible. sales will not pay for their current burn rate. so they need to either issue new stock, or float a bond unfortunately for tesla, it's nearly impossible for a company under an sec investigation to do either one. no investor is going to trust any of your representations about your stock or debt after you are accused of fraud.
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tl;dr: tesla could have done fine if elon musk could keep his loving mouth shut
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 elon "elon musk" musk, did too much acid with his girlfriend and committed a felony on twitter
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:tl;dr: tesla could have done fine if elon musk could keep his loving mouth shut they would at some point have to unlock the secret of building cars though
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anything actually worthwhile in tesla is going to be bought by one of the big auto makers and the brand/all the other worthless poo poo will be bought up by some smalltime company that'll import their own electric deathtraps under the tesla name
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infernal machines posted:they would at some point have to unlock the secret of building cars though from all the early reports they hired the right people but then elon ran them all off doing his best captain kirk impressions. "you say it takes 6 months to set up the factory? do it in 2!" *process engineers leave to do same job elsewhere* *factory takes 9 months to build and constantly catches fire*
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infernal machines posted:they would at some point have to unlock the secret of building cars though in the recent past there was reason to believe they might eventually figure it out now that's not the case there's no way for tesla to raise money with its current management and an outstanding sec investigation
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i could definitely believe that, also their apparent insistence that they run a manufacturing line like a software dev shop
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Improbable Lobster posted:anything actually worthwhile in tesla is going to be bought by one of the big auto makers and the brand/all the other worthless poo poo will be bought up by some smalltime company that'll import their own electric deathtraps under the tesla name the brand may very well be the only worthwhile part of tesla we know they're not very good at manufacturing cars, so why would you want the factories or designs? is their patent portfolio worth anything?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:in the recent past there was reason to believe they might eventually figure it out if they throw musk out maybe BIG maybe though
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the brand may very well be the only worthwhile part of tesla i think they "open sourced" their patents, so theyre not worth much financially
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Triglav posted:i think they "open sourced" their patents, so theyre not worth much financially also who wants to use a patent for a supercharger design that actively ruins the batteries as you use it
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Trabisnikof posted:also who wants to use a patent for a supercharger design that actively ruins the batteries as you use it to be fair this is pretty much the problem with batteries in general
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I got more confident in $TSLA when Ol’ Musky hired Chris Lattner, it made me think that maybe they weren’t the total clownshow they appeared to be I completely lost confidence when he the company would legit be better off with him in charge and Elon gone, Chris knows how to hire good people and listen to them
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eschaton posted:I got more confident in $TSLA when Ol’ Musky hired Chris Lattner, it made me think that maybe they weren’t the total clownshow they appeared to be But then how is Elon supposed to prove that you can run a business entirely from the power of memes and shitposting?
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President Beep posted:that little ditty is right up there with sagebrush’s lionel hutz business card edit, imo.
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Lonoxmont posted:But then how is Elon supposed to prove that you can run a business entirely from the power of memes and shitposting? and lsd
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a year ago, I would have agreed there was a chance that we're looking at a global auto giant, even if it is a slim one I think the biggest problem Tesla has was when Musk over-promised on Model 3 production. He set a pretty high benchmark, and I knew as soon as I saw it it would be next to impossible to make, not without serious compromise. The Model S still had a lot of fit and finish issues, and there was no sign that the Model 3 would avoid them.
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yes, they make lovely cars, past and present models, that are falling apart as we speak
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Actually, who over-promises more: Musk or Roberts?
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iospace posted:Actually, who over-promises more: depends on the definition roberts is promising much less in absolute terms, but, in proportion to what his company can actually deliver, he's waaaaaay out past musk ole' musky is only promising about double what tesla is able to deliver. roberts has promised like 50x as much content as will ever get into that game.
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Ultraklystron posted:Elon Elon! amazing
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infernal machines posted:more like zastava motors v2 touch screen to put it in H
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the brand may very well be the only worthwhile part of tesla Once Tesla goes under how does it work for acquiring the rights to repair and maintain the existing fleet of Teslas with proprietary tools once the servers go dark? There's a whole lot of money in offering that and thousands of people's cars held hostage otherwise, so which company is going to bite to get those millions? And will they most likely keep the Tesla brand name while they operate? If so Tesla's not really dead, although hopefully the move helps wash their hands of the toxic company culture all the previous people worked in.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Once Tesla goes under how does it work for acquiring the rights to repair and maintain the existing fleet of Teslas with proprietary tools once the servers go dark? There's a whole lot of money in offering that and thousands of people's cars held hostage otherwise, so which company is going to bite to get those millions? And will they most likely keep the Tesla brand name? well, one possibility is that they're just left up poo poo's creek, like owners of any other obscure, failed car there are not that many Teslas on the road. total sales, globally, 2015 to q2 2018, across all models, come to 300,000. that is about one year's worth of toyota camry u.s. sales. or six months of f-150 sales -- it might actually be worse than the average car company failure. usually, even after the parent company pulls out or shuts down, individual dealerships will continue to source parts and provide repairs for many years. tesla has no independent dealers. when the parent goes, so do the service centers
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Hahahaha that fucken rules
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the good news is their parts are mostly made by everyone else. and tesla owners are gullible shits with tons of money, so there should be a healthy aftermarket trade
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Bhodi posted:good point gonna stolen valor the poo poo out of it By all means spread the joke far and wide, I want it turn up on Elon's radar ASAP. Ultraklystron fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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infernal machines posted:the good news is their parts are mostly made by everyone else. and tesla owners are gullible shits with tons of money, so there should be a healthy aftermarket trade looking forward to seeing what the fine folks at jc whitney offer in their 2020 parts catalog.
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Chris Knight posted:amazing lol yeh its extremely good
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Ultraklystron posted:Elon Elon!
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am I the first pleb to admit not knowing what the reference is to
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rapeface posted:am I the first pleb to admit not knowing what the reference is to yes, and google "johny johny eating sugar"
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Ultraklystron posted:Elon Elon!
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prisoner of waffles posted:yes, and google "johny johny eating sugar" no don't! save yourself from the worst earworm ever conceived, it's truly awful and once it gets in your head it will never ever come out also just to be safe, don't have children
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ol qwerty bastard posted:also just to be safe, don't have children this is how i became ensnared.  e: luckily we’re a few years past that stage now.
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