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CBJSprague24 posted:Kasey Kahne will not run at Indy due to "extreme heat exhaustion". He all but said "I don't give a poo poo anymore" in his "retirement" announcement. So yeah this may be true or not but he's certainly not making any effort to run.
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https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1038126934939578369 I hadn't even thought of this.  e- quote:Keselowski suggested NASCAR go to more markets and race more often -- and end earlier instead of going into mid-November. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Is half the problem not, that in 2018 people can't/won't dedicate 3-5 hours per week, for 36 weeks, to follow racing? I'd be thinking the exact opposite. 25-30 races, cut to 2-2.5 hours max, the big races not withstanding
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CactusWeasle posted:Is half the problem not, that in 2018 people can't/won't dedicate 3-5 hours per week, for 36 weeks, to follow racing? Part of his logic is you could be filling short tracks during the week which can hold 20-30,000. It's not a bad idea from the limited sample size we have already (lookin' at you, Eldora), except for the fact that the last time I went to Eldora (2017, I missed this year), people started streaming out at the end of the second segment.
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It's also supposed to rain all drat weekend here in Indy. I'm starting to think this is gonna suck. I've been going to the Brickyard 400 since 1994 with my dad, and I'll keep going as long as they run it, but especially after the rain last year this race needs to go well or the rest of our group (a bunch of filthy casuals) is about to quit.
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Well, they won't be competing with the NFL on Sunday.
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https://twitter.com/mattdracing/status/1038153493838741506 DiBenedetto going to a good car? Or at least a decent car?
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Dudley posted:He all but said "I don't give a poo poo anymore" in his "retirement" announcement. It looks to me like he's maybe really loving sick. https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1038094865349849089?s=21
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CBJSprague24 posted:https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1038126934939578369 how on earth are there stupider people than brian france
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Elitist Bitch posted:It looks to me like he's maybe really loving sick. This sounds absolutely horrific
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big nipples big life posted:https://twitter.com/mattdracing/status/1038153493838741506 I don't see it, he's a bit of a prick.
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CactusWeasle posted:Is half the problem not, that in 2018 people can't/won't dedicate 3-5 hours per week, for 36 weeks, to follow racing? This is why I'm mostly absent from NASCAR in the summer and then fall my gf and I fight over football or NASCAR.. she usually wins.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Part of his logic is you could be filling short tracks during the week which can hold 20-30,000. It's not a bad idea from the limited sample size we have already (lookin' at you, Eldora), except for the fact that the last time I went to Eldora (2017, I missed this year), people started streaming out at the end of the second segment. Keselowski is a fuckin idiot, no surprise. Teams are going under left and right and his proposal is to make teams spend twice as much money a season.
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https://twitter.com/mattdracing/status/1038260287198117888 welp
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Elitist Bitch posted:It looks to me like he's maybe really loving sick. Eep.
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tater_salad posted:what happen? dunno, but it sounds like his previous tweet may have been a bit premature.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:rain already cancelling stuff at the track, heroically saving Indianapolis from having to see Florida Georgia Line Xfinity race already postponed to Monday at 10 am. Bring forth my first ever race watch from my office on my second monitor while simultaneously trying to hide it from co-workers!
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The immediate problem with NASCAR right now is the money well is drying up (there's others, but this is issue #1). When a defending champion and a 7 time champ has trouble retaining sponsorship, something is seriously, seriously wrong (meanwhile in Indy, they managed to draw PNC bank in, and they're being rewarded by a potential Scott Dixon championship). The problem right now is the sheer number of races: 36, plus the All Star Race. They could easily drop that down to what, 25-30 and axe a bunch of repeat stops. Hell, the only track that should get two races is Daytona, because Daytona is NASCAR's IMS (which also gets two races, but one's a road course and the other is the oval). The amount of races, as mentioned, leads to increased costs because of travel. The whole situation reminds me of early 90s CART, leading up to The Split. Costs are spiraling out of control, to the point where the sponsors are now being asked for more money than they're willing to put in. Yes, they tried to institute a cost control in the form of limiting how many engines you get, but the "better" teams still have the engineers and mechanics who know how to extract every last bit of power out of them, which leads to more costs. Meanwhile, Indy went "yeah, we tried with the aerokits, but they didn't work out as well as we'd like, so we're axing them in favor of a new sleek look. It'll also save money for the teams." Oh, and Honda and Chevy have a very good relationship and take steps to avoid the mistakes that lead to The Split. Both of them agree on a spending limit before each season for engine development, including going "yeah, let's not spend a lot this year" because of increased interest from new teams. Indy also runs less than 20 races a year, which helps keep costs down. Not to mention Indy's ladder is infinitely better than NASCAR's. You have a clearly defined path up, and if you win, you get promoted to the next level with enough money to run that season. Win the top level? Well, you don't get a full Indy season, but you're assured at least 2-3 races AND the Indy 500. It makes me sad to see NASCAR like this. It was my first motorsport love, but now it's flailing hard.
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iospace posted:It makes me sad to see NASCAR like this. It was my first motorsport love, but now it's flailing hard. This is kind of how I feel about the NHRA as well, since drag racing is what got me into this stupid sport. It may not be flailing as much since it's much more a niche sport, but Pro Stock used to be this magical place years ago where there were 60+ cars trying to make a field of 16, legit manufacturer wars, starting line burndowns, and dudes trying to sneak nitrous into their cars at every opportunity. Now the class is a dead man walking.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:This is kind of how I feel about the NHRA as well, since drag racing is what got me into this stupid sport. It may not be flailing as much since it's much more a niche sport, but Pro Stock used to be this magical place years ago where there were 60+ cars trying to make a field of 16, legit manufacturer wars, starting line burndowns, and dudes trying to sneak nitrous into their cars at every opportunity. Now the class is a dead man walking. What killed it, exactly? And drag racing is always going to be an "in-person" sport. TV is a bonus to them, but it does translate to modern, commercial driven TV well, to be fair.
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there's more nuances, but the standard "rising costs+lack of sponsor/manufacturer interest" equation was a big part Also doesn't help that the NHRA doesn't bother promoting anyone in their sport who doesn't have the surname Force, even though Erica Enders won a championship and had a movie made about her
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problem with NHRA is Pro Stock is a lot like nascar, used to be real-ish cars now completely fake. If you wanna watch fiberglass frames on a roll cage you can just watch F/C which are a) cooler and b) faster.
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Unfortunately any real change is going to require the France family to make less money so enjoy that death spiral
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would you rather watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLgLe5LfMYM or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qlof0RDrEw
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Peanut President posted:would you rather watch this Those videos reinforce that Steve Evans dying was one of the worst things to ever happen to drag racing.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Unfortunately any real change is going to require the France family to make less money so enjoy that death spiral This is the biggest issue. All this generation of France cares about is making as much money as humanly possible. One Daytona was the first sign to me that they might've been trying to diversify away from "cars going fast". I'd like to know what they have pictures of a member of the Marriott family sodomizing to have an Autograph Collection hotel built 5 miles from the drat beach: http://www.onedaytona.com/
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Indy weather guys say there may be a window tomorrow but it is supposed to rain like a mother all morning. I am hoping for Monday so I can go but I am not missing opening weekend of the NFL to find out the 15th worst driver.
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If they didn't move the Xfinity race to the speedway they could run both races at the same time Monday.
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Holy poo poo I live half an hour away why am I only hearing about this from autoweek https://autoweek.com/article/nascar/new-rockingham-speedway-owners-have-reached-out-nascar This guy is flexing hard out the gate and has already demonstrated more competence in three weeks than anyone involved with The Rock in decades, poaching Carolina Rebellion from the beach is a loving huge deal and locking it in for 20 years is beyond my comprehension. Clearly has the pockets and connections to make this work.
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Free McDonald’s at the midway y’all. Spicy tender meals. Looks like it’s still sprinkling though, no word on the race status yet.
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loving cancel this so I can go about my life already
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maffew buildings posted:loving cancel this so I can go about my life already the race, or NASCAR in general
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Sep 9, 2018 18:01
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I'm at the auto fair in Charlotte, they have now installed SAFER across the front stretch for that dumbass chicane. 
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To be fair the dumbass chicane on the front stretch is a lot better than the one on the back stretch .
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I assume they are putting stacks of tires there too, and its not just a 90 degree safer barrier you meet if you miss the first turn
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