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I do think my night action mafia less viable theory becomes more real if tomm is legitimately a tracker though and their may even be other similar variant roles among us.
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Mr. Humalong posted:And if Tomm was a cop wouldn't his claim that he doesn't want to vote me kind of kill your push on me? Something isn't adding up in your post for me and I'm not sure if it's just because I'm beyond tired or what. right. But he is not a cop. So that interlude went nowhere.
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Bifauxnen posted:right. But he is not a cop. So that interlude went nowhere. Lol, never change
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:This vote spread is not looking good.   those are the only players you want to vote ?
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The only person with any votes on them that I would not vote is AAI. Of the non AAs, I have a preference toward Hal because he seems to be intentionally keeping a low profile. I also have a lower preference toward Pod because he isn’t pushing anything, he’s just lobbing reads out there.
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Votecount for Day 2  Hal Incandenza (2): Natural 20, Mr. Humalong Anomalous Amalgam (2): Your Personal Muse, Hal Incandenza Your Personal Muse (2): Anomalous Amalgam, Moatillata (1): b-minus1 AnAnonymousIdiot (1): Bifauxnen, Mr. Humalong, Podima (0): b-minus1, Mr. Humalong (0): Natural 20, Tommunist (0): Anomalous Amalgam, Eat The Rich, Podima, Not Voting (4): AnAnonymousIdiot, Moatillata, Podima, TommunistWith 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 09th, 2018 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 18 minutes.
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b-minus1 posted:
I mean I have cases for you three is all, and all I know for certain from night is etr claimed a track on tomm and tomm claimed a track on hum and I got no results on my voyeur target so I don't see the problem? Your Personal Muse posted:The only person with any votes on them that I would not vote is AAI. Of the non AAs, I have a preference toward Hal because he seems to be intentionally keeping a low profile. I also have a lower preference toward Pod because he isn’t pushing anything, he’s just lobbing reads out there. I will say I agree with this pod read 100% though. Feels like he's catching up to avoid mod punishment and fishing more so than actually casing.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:42
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Bifauxnen posted:right. But he is not a cop. So that interlude went nowhere. Ok so going off of this, between ETR and Tomm which would you prefer to vote for? You mentioned voting Tomm if he's not a cop because he's lurking and, well, he's not a cop. ETR has also lurked, though not as blatantly in my eyes.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:42
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Let me reread Pod's posts today.
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I will also add I don’t like Pod’s vote on Tomm, it felt opportunistic and did not pressure. If you thought about it for two seconds you would realize that it didn’t say anything about Tomm’s alignment.
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Your Personal Muse posted:I will also add I don’t like Pod’s vote on Tomm, it felt opportunistic and did not pressure. If you thought about it for two seconds you would realize that it didn’t say anything about Tomm’s alignment. Agreed. That vote did not sit well with me
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Sep 10, 2018 01:48
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Mr. Humalong posted:Ok so going off of this, between ETR and Tomm which would you prefer to vote for? You mentioned voting Tomm if he's not a cop because he's lurking and, well, he's not a cop. ETR has also lurked, though not as blatantly in my eyes. I'd rather vote Tomm from those two. ETR is more engaged and is reportedly talking things through with AA. That looks like he's actually trying to work things out. Though if Tomm is scum, I don't know why he'd come forward with a tracker claim when it would already be contested. Unless he didn't want to get nailed for trying to play it like he's the cop. I'd rather vote AI though cause this poo poo is ridiculous
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Sep 10, 2018 01:48
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##vote Podima
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Sep 10, 2018 01:49
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I was physically not present this weekend and did a full catch-up post that everyone seems content to ignore, eat my shorts. My vote on Tomm was a "aha we caught a roleblocker" that I second-guessed once I thought about it for a hot minute. The "not pushing anyone" is nonsense, I was very clear about who I had scum reads on, and would still vote Moat.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:51
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Podima posted:I was physically not present this weekend and did a full catch-up post that everyone seems content to ignore, eat my shorts.  Podima posted:Lean Scum Hal has 2 votes AA has 2 votes I just unvoted Moat, so he's at 0. You would vote moat, but not Hal?
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Also since there's so much poo poo out there already I may as well make it super clear to town since I alluded stuff already: I'm a jailer, I jailed Nat20 last night. That's why his action and Huma's failed, and why I don't feel Tomm is a roleblocker. (Like I said, I didn't think about Huma having failed due to targeting Nat20, so when I realized that I immediately pulled it back.) I also thought about it for a hot minute and realized Asiina wouldn't put a cop in her games, so Tomm claiming tracker is reasonable. I'm also in an unconfirmed masonry with Hal, who has claimed Watcher to me. In a world where we have a claimed Voyeur and two Trackers, a Watcher sits very poorly with me - and is a very plausible scum role, moreso than a tracker. Hal and my masonry conversation has generally been neutral, but I still have general gutfeels about him that I don't like. In summation: I'd ##vote moat most of all since I think Huma is town and moat has really not put much poo poo out there besides that and an abortive read on Bif that he never revisited. I would also vote Hal or AA in no particular priority.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:54
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Oh, and Hal claimed to have targeted "not Nat20" last night and had his action fail. Upon further consideration I actually think that's bullshit. ##vote Hal
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Sep 10, 2018 01:55
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Oh my god the power roles FOUR TRACKER/WATCHERS MY GOD
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Sep 10, 2018 01:56
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Mr. Humalong posted:Oh my god the power roles My theory is panning out if he is a watcher though. I think with 3 claimed a 4th should be more believable not less... especially if hal claimed it before the thread reveals.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:58
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Sep 10, 2018 01:58
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:My theory is panning out if he is a watcher though. I think with 3 claimed a 4th should be more believable not less... especially if hal claimed it before the thread reveals. He claimed it in masonry before Tomm's tracker claim. I still think this is way too many observing roles, and watcher is the most valuable to scum (identifying power roles).
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Sep 10, 2018 01:59
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btw i thought hal was softclaiming AAI as his mason partner: Hal Incandenza posted:Also AAI please come in and post and vote and avoid a repeat of what happened yesterday
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Sep 10, 2018 02:00
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Podima posted:He claimed it in masonry before Tomm's tracker claim. scum jailer is more valuable to scum than a watcher
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Sep 10, 2018 02:01
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b-minus1 posted:scum jailer is more valuable to scum than a watcher Are you going on record as saying that you believe town has a voyeur, two trackers, and a watcher?
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b-minus1 posted:scum jailer is more valuable to scum than a watcher This is true.
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Podima posted:Are you going on record as saying that you believe town has a voyeur, two trackers, and a watcher? lol. no. one or more of those claims could be bullshit. I agree that a scum watcher seems more likely than a tracker or voyeur. i was merely pointing out that a jailer could easily be a scum role.
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Podima posted:Also since there's so much poo poo out there already I may as well make it super clear to town since I alluded stuff already: You're gaming the mod for your justifications. I wouldn't have a problem with it if you hadnt already tried to dismiss the notion. Podima posted:So he claimed no results, basically. AA is dancing around it but it looks like he's basing Huma's townie status on ETR's track results. I mean I also used mod meta to defend it. But now you're floating a hard role elimination from the setup altogether to justify Tomms claim... I am curious if that's true mod meta. But it's your sudden shift in tone about it, and disbelief in hals watcher claim that pings me. I think you've been spraying out opinions that look good but hold little real conviction. And now you've outed your partner. I can't see a scum incentive for doing that though unless you thought town would find the claims unbelievable and eliminate him. I buy that you jailed hum, but I have a hard time parsing that as a town move when you immediately voted tomm. Granted I did too. But I'm not claiming to also be a jailer lol ##vote pod
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b-minus1 posted:lol. no. one or more of those claims could be bullshit. I agree that a scum watcher seems more likely than a tracker or voyeur. i was merely pointing out that a jailer could easily be a scum role. Sure, I don't disagree on principle. But I'm town, so there you are! Also as an aside this is one of those situations I find immensely frustrating where I've made a point of being active when available, and yet I'm being criticized for "not pushing people" when you have folks like Tommunist and AAI - who, frustratingly, I don't even want to vote because I believe their claim/don't think their gameplay is personally scummy, respectively, versus the guy I'm voting.
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Sep 10, 2018 02:09
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I buy that you jailed hum Wow there cowpoke
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:You're gaming the mod for your justifications. I wouldn't have a problem with it if you hadnt already tried to dismiss the notion. 1) Asiina has gone on record multiple times as saying cops are bad and she won't put them in their games. Do you think there is a cop in this game? 2) I jailed Nat20 because of his gameplay on D1, not Hum. Please read my posts. 3) Please point to my sum-up posts from earlier today and tell me what holds little real conviction? 4) I've outed my partner because I think he's potentially scum. I would vote you for this garbage.
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Sep 10, 2018 02:10
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Ok pod, you’ve convinced me for now. AA looking scummy af Would vote Hal, moat, AA
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Well shoot I guess the masonry is no fun now. I’ve been pretty suspicious of Pod anyway so ##vote Pod. I was definitely very forthcoming and not scummy at all in the masonry so I really don’t buy that is his read on me. I am a watcher and I tried watching b-minus last night and specifically got “failed” as a result. So there is probably at least a roleblocker out there too if Pod is really a jailer
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Sep 10, 2018 02:13
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Any particular reason you know of that I wouldn’t be able to watch you b-minus
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Sep 10, 2018 02:14
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Hal Incandenza posted:Any particular reason you know of that I wouldn’t be able to watch you b-minus interesting. I have no idea why your action failed.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well shoot I guess the masonry is no fun now. I’ve been pretty suspicious of Pod anyway so ##vote Pod. I was definitely very forthcoming and not scummy at all in the masonry so I really don’t buy that is his read on me. When did podima claim jailer/post n1 results in your mason chat? your post implies you think his claim is bs
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well shoot I guess the masonry is no fun now. I’ve been pretty suspicious of Pod anyway so ##vote Pod. I was definitely very forthcoming and not scummy at all in the masonry so I really don’t buy that is his read on me. You immediately tried to push me in the masonry for killing pera this morning on basis of "well you'd kill a lurker" which is patently not true with how I play as scum, and then dropped it immediately without bothering to bring it up in the thread after I responded. Why did you choose b-minus as your watch target, Hal?
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b-minus1 posted:When did podima claim jailer/post n1 results in your mason chat? your post implies you think his claim is bs Never, he just alluded to having a role after I claimed to him
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b-minus1 posted:When did podima claim jailer/post n1 results in your mason chat? your post implies you think his claim is bs I never claimed jailer in chat, I only claimed a town power role earlier today. I did not trust Hal enough to full claim, and would not full claim my power role in an unconfirmed masonry without compelling reason to.
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Podima posted:You immediately tried to push me in the masonry for killing pera this morning on basis of "well you'd kill a lurker" which is patently not true with how I play as scum, and then dropped it immediately without bothering to bring it up in the thread after I responded. Because b minus is an action magnet a lot
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so we have a potential 3 people who have claimed action fialed/ jailed someone (mr humalong) (podima) (b-minus 1) ?
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