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Amppelix posted:Don't let the most momentous news of the year pass you by: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (the first one) is getting remastered for ps4 and switch I've been saying for years that this game was ahead of its time, now I get to put that to the test. I hope they fix it so that you can have the different village jobs at max level without having to run several different characters through 10+ years of levels or whatever, the big bummer for me in single-player was getting locked out of a bunch of endgame equipment because I only had one player character maxed out.
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Sep 12, 2018 15:31
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you can't miss any equipment. iirc every blacksmith can make every weapon and armor by third cycle. the only thing you lose out on by ignoring your village is a crappy discount, and that's only good for the prohibitively expensive ultima weapons. actually if you don't have the right items when they ask for it, it's very easy to make your family MAD at you entirely by bad rng luck, and they become the most expensive vendors in the game  and ultimas suck anyway, because only unique weapons like dreamcatcher and ragnarok have the best special attacks, ultimas just have basic specials. with the exception of yukes, who don't get any unique special attacks, so just get ultima hammer if you were unfortunate enough to choose that
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Sep 12, 2018 18:59
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I had the player's guide and I seem to recall that for the top-level equipment you need a max-level Alchemist to give you the blueprints for the best weapon and armor, and then a max-level merchant to sell you the materials to craft them. Maybe I read that all wrong back then though. Also yes, the race-specific super weapons were extremely dope.
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Sep 12, 2018 19:38
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nope you got all the recipes from boss or rare monster drops in specific areas. you needed an alchemist to get a couple accessory recipes, but there weren't any particularly good ones anyway. the best things, like lowering charge time, were all drops. drops drops drops the rng was the infuriating heart of crystal chronicles.
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Sep 12, 2018 20:22
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Actually I beat that game, single player, without every worrying about things like grinding (unless you count redoing some dungeons out of necessity as grinding) or optimized equipment so maybe RNG wasn't the infuriating heart at all?
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Sep 12, 2018 21:17
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you can because ffcc is not a very difficult game, but if you want any cool items at all, welcome to the grind zone like sure you can do the final area with a mythril sword and crappy armor but then you're missing out on everything interesting they put in the game
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Sep 12, 2018 21:26
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I would say that everything interesting in the game includes the story, the fantastical area designs, the music... And does not include a stick that does more damage. It's clearly a flaw that you need to hellgrind to get them, but I think it's a pretty minor one all things considered. You can just ignore the fact that the game has higher level equipment, unless you happen to luck into one. It's not like the game has any optional challenge content to test your might against either.
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Sep 12, 2018 23:51
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It's not a Kawazu project without a cool world you only kind of vaguely learn about and arcane obscure stuff you don't really need to do but you sure as gently caress can if you want to be miserable e: were any of the CC sequels good? I mean the ones that are actually like CC, not stuff like crystal bearers (which is hilarious and everyone should play)
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Sep 12, 2018 23:57
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As for CC's story, we didn't care about it. We mashed advance through all the text, we just wanted to explore places and fight poo poo. I think that's fine, and games in this genre should account for players who don't want to engage with the world or the characters and just want to do the gameplay. The DS sequels were ok I guess. They were a little stripped-down to account for the handheld, and they used a more traditional progression than CC. They're probably pretty fun with friends, but single player is kind of boring.
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Sep 13, 2018 00:29
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I remember losing my poo poo when FF:CC came out because it was the first Square game on a Nintendo console since VI, but it was immediately followed by disappointment because I am a nerd with zero friends interested in FF and I was the only GBA owner I knew of.
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Sep 13, 2018 00:41
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Alec Eiffel posted:I remember losing my poo poo when FF:CC came out because it was the first Square game on a Nintendo console since VI, but it was immediately followed by disappointment because I am a nerd with zero friends interested in FF and I was the only GBA owner I knew of. It's older then ff1+2 gba? Huh did not know that
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Sep 13, 2018 11:36
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mandatory lesbian posted:It's older then ff1+2 gba? Huh did not know that By a little less than a year in each region, apparently. Crystal Chronicles came out in Japan in August '03, US and Canada Feb '04, and EU/Australia March '04. Dawn of Souls hit in Japan July '04, US/Canada in November '04, and EU/Australia December '04.
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Sep 13, 2018 12:11
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Amppelix posted:
Going through most ff games recently, the grind in CC isn't even as bad as half of the stuff you'd maybe have to do in other ffs if you start treading the "time to 100% the game" route, so I still don't get it. But anyways, yeah you don't at all need to grind to see 90% of the cool poo poo in CC anyways (not including normal dungeon retreads for padding myrr cycles, that's unavoidable at some point) so don't worry about the rng stuff.
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Sep 13, 2018 13:34
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Ventana posted:But anyways, yeah you don't at all need to grind to see 90% of the cool poo poo in CC anyways (not including normal dungeon retreads for padding myrr cycles, that's unavoidable at some point) so don't worry about the rng stuff. imo the "cool poo poo" items are 1) the five magic rings 2) legendary weapons 3) chocobo shield these things are all dictated purely by rng, because the way the treasure system works is, if you reach the minimum point threshold to get them in the boss drop pool, you're probably going to get a lower tier pool anyway. i would be fine with it if they removed the rng entirely, especially with extremely long and bad stages like the swamp.
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Sep 13, 2018 19:24
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Omg ff12 on switch
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Sep 13, 2018 23:33
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Finally, FF12 can play itself on the go.
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Sep 13, 2018 23:39
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Lots of stuff for Switch. * Crystal Chronicles and 15 Pocket, which we knew about. * Deluxe World of Final Fantasy version or whatever * Remastered version of one of the Chocobo Mystery Dungeon games. * FF7, 9, 10/2, and 12 (lol suck it 8)
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Sep 13, 2018 23:40
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World of Final fantasy is letting you change the main characters into different FF character, including Noctis who wasn't in before.
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Sep 13, 2018 23:42
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They obviously left out 8 because they're secretly working on VIII HD and VIII-2 where you play as Seifer/Fujin/Raijin
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Sep 13, 2018 23:45
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8 is also absent on iOS.
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Sep 13, 2018 23:58
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Confession time: I haven't played any numbered Final Fantasies past VI. Guess I'm buying a Switch sooner or later.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:00
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12 feels made for handheld I very much got a vibe of they will announce Noctis for smash
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Sep 14, 2018 00:04
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I'm glad they are making a new Chocobo Mystery Dungeon.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:08
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Someone at Square-Enix must really hate Final Fantasy VIII or someone who worked on it.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:16
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Theres a PC port of 8 so its the weirdest thing.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:19
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Electric Phantasm posted:I'm glad they are making a new Chocobo Mystery Dungeon. its just a port of the wii one afaik
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Sep 14, 2018 00:24
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:12 feels made for handheld ....Actually I'd be down for this if we got a 2nd Sqauare rep. Noctis has a cool enough power set that he could be made to be real fun to play.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:26
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One of the big Smash leakers that's been right so far has suggested that another SE rep will make it in, but who knows who that will be. There's a good chance it could be Geno from Super Mario RPG since people won't shut the gently caress up about him and Geno's rights technically belong to SE.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:30
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YoshiOfYellow posted:....Actually I'd be down for this if we got a 2nd Sqauare rep. Noctis has a cool enough power set that he could be made to be real fun to play. Noctis is already in Tekken. So he should be in smash too.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:30
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corn in the bible posted:its just a port of the wii one afaik That's what I get for half paying attention to the Direct. Saw Chocobo, saw the title and assumed it was a new game.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:37
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Mega64 posted:One of the big Smash leakers that's been right so far has suggested that another SE rep will make it in, but who knows who that will be. There's a good chance it could be Geno from Super Mario RPG since people won't shut the gently caress up about him and Geno's rights technically belong to SE. Geno was also one of the Mii alternate costumes which so far have all been made characters.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:38
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Electric Phantasm posted:That's what I get for half paying attention to the Direct. Saw Chocobo, saw the title and assumed it was a new game. I guess I was the one not paying attention, since it has NPC partners and co-op so it's different
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Sep 14, 2018 00:43
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I'd hope that a second S-E rep would have more of a Nintendo connection. Noctis hasn't even been on a Nintendo console yet, so I really hope it's not him (also I hate him and all his unlikeable friends that never shut up but that's different). When Sakurai was first theorizing potential FF Smash characters, he was throwing around Bartz, Terra and for some reason FuSoYa, all good picks from the SNES era that have stood the test of time. That'd be the vein I'd expect, because nearly every Smash Ultimate newcomer has been someone who's been desired by fans for ages. If you want to go even further back, I think a classic FFI Black Mage would be a strong choice. If you want to extend beyond FF, then the obvious choice is Dragon Quest, but I unfortunately don't know enough about it to think hard on that. The protagonist from Secret of Mana would be a decent pick as well, maybe taking cues from Ness and borrowing techniques from his party. My hope for a second S-E rep would be Crono, though, who I think is a pretty good chance. ImpAtom posted:Geno was also one of the Mii alternate costumes which so far have all been made characters. Also that's actually... pretty bloody wrong. Outfits deconfirmed as characters already includes Dunban, Megaman X, Proto Man, Zero, Rathalos (I don't think your hopes were THAT high), Knuckles and Ashley, so your rule here is essentially totally made up. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Sep 14, 2018 |
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Sep 14, 2018 00:50
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corn in the bible posted:I guess I was the one not paying attention, since it has NPC partners and co-op so it's different Nah I watched it again, they say it's a port of the Wii game, but you can do Co-op and befriend monsters presumably like the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:51
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Cleretic posted:I'd hope that a second S-E rep would have more of a Nintendo connection. Noctis hasn't even been on a Nintendo console yet, so I really hope it's not him (also I hate him and all his unlikeable friends that never shut up but that's different). They literally announced Noctis coming to the Switch today as part of the Direct. Cleretic posted:Also that's actually... pretty bloody wrong. Outfits deconfirmed as characters already includes Dunban, Megaman X, Proto Man, Zero, Rathalos (I don't think your hopes were THAT high), Knuckles and Ashley, so your rule here is essentially totally made up. My... rule? Okay? Do you have me mistaken for someone else?
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Sep 14, 2018 00:57
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I think Warrior of Light has a chance too. My dream rep would be Gilgamesh since he’s a staple in the series, has a lot of weapons for his move set, and there’s already a big bridge stage.
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Sep 14, 2018 01:03
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FF8's PC port is still the lovely Eidos one from way back when with a few bandaids, right? That'd be why it's not getting ported, they'd probably have to clean it up more.
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Sep 14, 2018 01:05
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By the way the direct showed that FFCC will actually have some new areas in it, and also that the chalice carrying seems completely unchanged (they didn't call it out but from footage it looked like that)
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Sep 14, 2018 01:10
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It's funny because I'm actually way more excited about all these Final Fantasy games coming to Switch than the Smash reveal. Particularly IX & X/X-2 HD.
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AlphaKretin posted:FF8's PC port is still the lovely Eidos one from way back when with a few bandaids, right? That'd be why it's not getting ported, they'd probably have to clean it up more. I'm going to guess that it's the usual business and the source code was deleted or some other critical piece is missing. Or it's just pure unrefined hatred of it by someone with clout at Square-Enix.
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