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I feel like that's probably a pretty good move? Maybe I'm being pessimistic in imaging the types of scripts we'd get otherwise, but I feel like it's probably a better move that the Doctor's gender does not matter for her Jodie's first season.
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Yeah that's legit. That avoids any stupid predetermined fairer sex bullshit.
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Sep 14, 2018 19:26
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There seems to be an error in your post. I fixed it though.
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Sep 14, 2018 19:44
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Although it’s going to be odd that everyone refers to Jodie as “he”. 
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Sep 14, 2018 19:51
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I want her to meet Kate Lethbridge.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:13
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I'm kind of over Kate. And of she pops up we run the risk of Osgoods showing up again.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:18
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Rhyno posted:I'm kind of over Kate. And of she pops up we run the risk of Osgoods showing up again. Oh no?
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The_Doctor posted:Oh no? Oh heavens, what ever will we do if the only good thign about the Zygon two-parter returns.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:31
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They're awful!
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Sep 14, 2018 20:34
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https://twitter.com/spankybackpack/status/1040671584732766208
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Apparently, the scripts for series 11 were written for a male doctor, as Chibnall didn't tell the writers he was actually casting Jodie Whittaker. Though it will make the scene where she passionately makes out with a man feel like a bit of a missed opportunity.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Apparently, the scripts for series 11 were written for a male doctor, as Chibnall didn't tell the writers he was actually casting Jodie Whittaker. Right! This’ll be fooon!
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Sep 15, 2018 06:09
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Chokes McGee posted:Right! This’ll be fooon! You think? 
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Sep 15, 2018 07:31
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IMO, there are a lot of wrong ways to write the Doctor as a woman, but it's still possible to acknowledge the Doctor's current gender without being corny. That said, considering the stumbles of the Doctor Who writing team in handling these subjects in the past, just sort of carrying on like nothing happened is probably the best option.
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Sep 15, 2018 08:50
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I really dig that he did this, it should mean that they wrote for the character of the Doctor instead of tripping over themselves to acknowledge/point out the fact she's a woman now.
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Yeah, I love this, because it's actually using the main problem of a new Doctor's first season as a strength. The first season's usually pretty rough and weird for a Doctor because the scripts have no idea who they are; there'll often be scripts written for the last Doctor specifically, or people who default to that voice, and both of those are fine if generic and occasionally a little rocky. But sometimes, as was the case of Capaldi and C. Bakes, the writers try to push a very specific idea that doesn't quite work out based on who the actor is without them actually doing any acting yet. That last one would've definitely happened if people knew about Whittaker, leading to a whole season of people writing 'this is how the Lady Doctor should go' without anything else to really go on--and chances are you would've ended up with some wildly inconsistent ideas about that across the season. But with all the scripts being written for some generic, archetypal Doctor that everyone was likely writing as a man, we're probably in a similar situation to Matt Smith's first season, where everyone's just sort of writing 'a Doctor' which gives Whittaker a lot of room to move and define her character the way she wants. Then the next season gets written with how she played it in mind, and also it's too late to write 'here's my opinions about how Lady Doctor should go' because we already got a whole season of it not being a big deal.
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Don't worry, there will still be "the doctor is a woman" jokes and references. In the article it stated that the writers didn't know when they made their drafts. There's plenty of time during finals, punch ups, and on set improve!
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Cleretic posted:Yeah, I love this, because it's actually using the main problem of a new Doctor's first season as a strength. The first season's usually pretty rough and weird for a Doctor because the scripts have no idea who they are; there'll often be scripts written for the last Doctor specifically, or people who default to that voice, and both of those are fine if generic and occasionally a little rocky. But sometimes, as was the case of Capaldi and C. Bakes, the writers try to push a very specific idea that doesn't quite work out based on who the actor is without them actually doing any acting yet. I hadn't even thought of that. It doesn't just prevent people from accidentally allowing sexism to seep into the writing, it also prevents people from "writing to the actor" until they really know who the actor is and what their strengths are. It lets Jodie hone the character for herself a little before the writers decide who she is. I really, really hope this season is good, they've had so many good ideas!
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https://vimeo.com/100214744 someone did a send up of Doctor Who if he were an old school tokusatsu hero. There's even backstory for it. quote:“The Cybermen, designed by the vile Davronicus – scientist Lieutenant to the M.A.S.T.E.R., are the foot soldiers of the Machine Monster Empire,” Kahan told Crave. “They are made from conquered or captured species that have then had their personalities wiped and their bodies warped and replaced with deadly cybernetic parts. To a regular Joe, they appear to be constructed from black sentai suits and chrome spray painted alien masks.”
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Jerusalem posted:I really dig that he did this, it should mean that they wrote for the character of the Doctor instead of tripping over themselves to acknowledge/point out the fact she's a woman now.
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Just a heads-up that BBC Radio are broadcasting Heroes of Sontar with the Fifth Doctor. I’ve listened to the first episode on the iPlayer and it’s pretty entertaining. They’ve gone with the more modern, humorous depiction of the Sontarans, but I quite like that - I think it lends the pantheon of Who “villains” a bit of depth and variety. There’s some spooky threat in the serial from elsewhere though...
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LividLiquid posted:I'm over the moon about it. The "oh, brilliant" moment was so much better than the tired misogynistic joke I was expecting that it absolutely made my day and continuing on in that way is a very exciting prospect. "Tits! I've got tits! I don't like the colour." "Of your tits?"
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Looks like some killjoys who hate fun got the snarky G.O.A.T. parody wiki doctorwhogeneral shut down. http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Who_Wiki Lame. Like Doctor Who, it is now RUINED FOREVER I guess.
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Jerusalem posted:
That episode is goddamn terrible, but I guess it's par for the course in BBC sherlock
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corn in the bible posted:That episode is goddamn terrible, but I guess it's par for the course in BBC sherlock Remember when everyone loved it though?
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Sep 17, 2018 15:04
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To this day I don't understand how anyone could watch the Hound of the Baskervilles episode and think it was anything but garbage. And yet the show continued for two more seasons, somehow
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corn in the bible posted:To this day I don't understand how anyone could watch the Hound of the Baskervilles episode and think it was anything but garbage. And yet the show continued for two more seasons, somehow People latched on to Cumberbatch and Freeman as a duo, I suppose.
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corn in the bible posted:To this day I don't understand how anyone could watch the Hound of the Baskervilles episode and think it was anything but garbage. And yet the show continued for two more seasons, somehow
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Wheat Loaf posted:People latched on to Cumberbatch and Freeman as a duo, I suppose. It's true that they both do a good job with the material given to them. I don't think it's Cumberbatch's fault that he was told to, for example, act out a scene where Sherlock pretends Watson is going to die in an explosion simply to make him cry and beg to be saved, that loveable rascal.
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Astroman posted:Looks like some killjoys who hate fun got the snarky G.O.A.T. parody wiki doctorwhogeneral shut down. RIP Piss Heather
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Rhyno posted:Remember when everyone loved it though? I think the average person might be forgiven for failing to predict the utter farrago of self-congratulatory toss the show would become after Season 2. You might, for example, have expected Moffat and Gattis might actually attempt to resolve the cliffhanger from "The Reichenbach Fall" instead of spending an entire episode literally wanking themselves off at how clever they are while shouting "Ahhh, you'll never guess how Sherlock comes back from the dead and we'll never actually tell you so suck on that, NERRRRDS" at the camera. It would also have been difficult to foresee that the series would actually get incrementally worse from that point on, smugger, stupider and lazier in every aspect. So bad in fact it sucks any enjoyment from the earlier "good" episodes, because In effect, those are nothing more than a prelude to some of the most embarrassing bullshit ever put on TV.
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Maelstache posted:I think the average person might be forgiven for failing to predict the utter farrago of self-congratulatory toss the show would become after Season 2. You might, for example, have expected Moffat and Gattis might actually attempt to resolve the cliffhanger from "The Reichenbach Fall" instead of spending an entire episode literally wanking themselves off at how clever they are while shouting "Ahhh, you'll never guess how Sherlock comes back from the dead and we'll never actually tell you so suck on that, NERRRRDS" at the camera. That final episode is truly impressive, in that I didn't know a show that started as good as it did could end that badly. Like, this started as a show where a detective reads clues to solve mysteries. How does it end with Saw in a Castle Prison Island and a sister he had been programmed to forget about as the villain? What the gently caress happened? thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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I think Moffat and Gatiss are far more enamoured with the Sherlockian game aspect of the Sherlock Holmes canon (i.e. reconciling inconsistencies between the stories, usually by recasting everything as some grand, elaborate duel between Holmes and Moriarty) than they are interested in the actual mysteries.
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I wish they’d got David Renwick to construct some mysteries since that’s much more his wheelhouse after Jonathan Creek.
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Maelstache posted:I think the average person might be forgiven for failing to predict the utter farrago of self-congratulatory toss the show would become after Season 2. You might, for example, have expected Moffat and Gattis might actually attempt to resolve the cliffhanger from "The Reichenbach Fall" instead of spending an entire episode literally wanking themselves off at how clever they are while shouting "Ahhh, you'll never guess how Sherlock comes back from the dead and we'll never actually tell you so suck on that, NERRRRDS" at the camera. Moffat? Not ever resolving a hanging plot point?? Truly I am shocked. Shocked I say!!!
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think Moffat and Gatiss are far more enamoured with the Sherlockian game aspect of the Sherlock Holmes canon (i.e. reconciling inconsistencies between the stories, usually by recasting everything as some grand, elaborate duel between Holmes and Moriarty) than they are interested in the actual mysteries. I used to have this massive two-volume annotated Sherlock where the annotations were all, like, trying to establish what day things happened on and what kind of snake the speckled band really was and a bunch of other insane poo poo. it was incredible and I wish I still had it. They determined the speckled band was ACTUALLY a hybrid lizard with no legs, that's definitely what ACD had in mind when he wrote the story
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corn in the bible posted:They determined the speckled band was ACTUALLY a hybrid lizard with no legs, that's definitely what ACD had in mind when he wrote the story Dorothy L. Sayers posted:The game of applying the methods of the "Higher Criticism" to the Sherlock Holmes canon was begun, many years ago, by Ronald Knox, with the aim of showing that, by those methods, one could disintegrate a modern classic as speciously as a certain school of critics have endeavoured to disintegrate the Bible. Since then, the thing has become a hobby among a select set of jesters here and in America I assume this was a commonplace form of recreation in the days before television.
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Hell, it’s commonplace now to go knee-deep in analysis. It’s how we found out what day Ice Cube was rapping about in “It Was a Good Day”.
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corn in the bible posted:I used to have this massive two-volume annotated Sherlock where the annotations were all, like, trying to establish what day things happened on and what kind of snake the speckled band really was and a bunch of other insane poo poo. it was incredible and I wish I still had it. I have something like that, but it's an old seventies book full of fantastically over-analytical Holmes-fan nitpicking. It's this one, mine doesn't have the cover sadly. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sherlock-Holmes-Commentary-Martin-Dakin/dp/0715354930
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