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IllegallySober posted:So you're saying both imgay and Hal are lying about seeing you move at night? Yes
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IllegallySober posted:So you're saying both imgay and Hal are lying about seeing you move at night? Or they saw someone that isn't me doing night stuff but looks like me for some reason? Ditto-type deal or....?
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Sep 17, 2018 23:29
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I made it quite clear yesterday I still wanted to vote DB but I didn’t want to outright claim especially since someone else could theoretically have blocked IS I just knew DB visited him Garbage. Like I said. I had claimed a jail and a target, and he claimed bomb soooo.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:29
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I think it's an either or issue, either their both scumbros lying, or a scum is impersonating me at night.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:30
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Dick Bastardly posted:*hopping on wagon, riding for glory* Wait you are saying I'm scum when I lead the kill on IP???
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Sep 17, 2018 23:31
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Garbage. Like I said. I had claimed a jail and a target, and he claimed bomb soooo. I don’t understand what you are trying to say
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Sep 17, 2018 23:32
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Hal Incandenza posted:I’ll help. I tracked DB to Sal last night and I tracked DB to IS night 1, he’s definitely a roleblocker I do find it a little strange that you didn't call DB out on D2 for moving N1 if you tracked him, since he stated D2 he was nothing besides a bomb. Did you miss that until now?
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Sep 17, 2018 23:34
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I made it quite clear yesterday I still wanted to vote DB but I didn’t want to outright claim especially since someone else could theoretically have blocked IS I just knew DB visited him Missed this apparently while I was typing. Still think you had enough to challenge him a little more forcefully but since we already had a dunk target lined up and you weren't 100% I can see why you might have waited and also retargeted DB again. Nice work.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:36
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Mafia edit: goddamn run-on sentences again. Maybe throw a comma in there next time, genius 
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Sep 17, 2018 23:37
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Dick Bastardly posted:I think it's an either or issue, either their both scumbros lying, or a scum is impersonating me at night. The second one is more likely. Alternatively, there might be some redirect fuckery: Yami Fenrir posted:A note about result language Some players think this is kind of bastardy but this is (kinda) how I run my games - example: - a Tracker targets you, who is performing no action - the Tracker's action gets redirected - the new target performs an action - the Tracker is told "You track your target to X" but has no way of knowing that they've been redirected (personally I run my games specifying the (new) target in the result PM, which erases this confusion but can cause some new confusion - I've definitely had players PM me asking me if I hosed up their result PM)
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Sep 17, 2018 23:47
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to be clear tho: the second one is more likely than the first but I think the most likely result is that u scum   
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Sep 17, 2018 23:48
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Epsilon Plus posted:The second one is more likely. Alternatively, there might be some redirect fuckery: Yes and to be fair both times my PM did not mention DB by name, but two nights in a row I tracked ~someone~ to a person who was blocked and that seems like too much of a coincidence even with redirects or what have you
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Sep 17, 2018 23:53
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If DB is not lying and is town: - He has a role that is only beneficial to himself in terms of taking someone else in the game out with him if he dies - He probably should be willing to hammer himself to avoid losing two town members on the same day, something he's already shown he won't do - He also revealed this five minutes before deadline D1 - He also has been unlucky enough to have been impersonated or whatever to be seen moving in the night by different people on different nights somehow despite not having the ability to move himself
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Sep 17, 2018 23:54
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Why didn't you say something sooner? I said yesterday that I would claim and I think doing so may alleviate some of these concerns. I bread crumbed a little SalTheBard posted:My experiences with SalTheBard posted:My education with SalTheBard posted:My experience with I'm Mew. I have a couple of abilities that are all one shot. I have used 2. I still have a couple abilities left. So far I used Foresight which is a watch and Aromatherapy which is a doctor ability. Don't want to really reveal what other skills I have left but I have some tools left still.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:54
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SalTheBard posted:I said yesterday that I would claim and I think doing so may alleviate some of these concerns. I bread crumbed a little Hmmmm so your doc counts as used even with being blocked?
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Sep 17, 2018 23:56
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Hal Incandenza posted:Hmmmm so your doc counts as used even with being blocked? I will clarify but I assume yes
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Sep 17, 2018 23:58
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Hal Incandenza posted:Hmmmm so your doc counts as used even with being blocked? Makes sense for a regular roleblock also wow lol you got THE cool pokemon sal
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Sep 18, 2018 00:04
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I thought I was Meowth which is why I asked about evil trainers on D1.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:09
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Makes sense for a regular roleblock also wow lol you got THE cool pokemon sal Yeah I see it go both ways so I just wanted to confirm
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Sep 18, 2018 00:11
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SalTheBard posted:Wait you are saying I'm scum when I lead the kill on IP??? bussing is a thing
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Sep 18, 2018 00:14
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Dick Bastardly posted:bussing is a thing Oh come on, yes it is but a D2 fake claim to hard bus the poisoner on your own team is NOT something Sal is going to do
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Sep 18, 2018 00:19
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Hal Incandenza posted:Oh come on, yes it is but a D2 fake claim to hard bus the poisoner on your own team is NOT something Sal is going to do Probably not......but ~maybe~
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Sep 18, 2018 00:23
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Dick Bastardly posted:bussing is a thing Ok, let's play along with this game. So, the scum busdriver decided to bus you with the scum roleblocker two nights in a row. For their town target, they chose to target a town player whose claimed ability provides no-utility / negative utility to town. For their scum target, instead of choosing the killer and/or poisoner, they chose the roleblocker. Dick, you better get to work finding the world's worst scum busdriver in order to clear your name and prove you've been set up. You should entice this person to hammer you today and then we'll salute your brave sacrifice when you blow them up.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:24
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Slamburger posted:Ok, let's play along with this game. So, the scum busdriver decided to bus you with the scum roleblocker two nights in a row. All of that hinges on there even being a scum bus driver to begin with so... all of that is possible in theory. Or maybe it was a framer or some kind of imposter role idk
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Sep 18, 2018 00:27
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I know it's basically meaningless, but DB, are you willing to go on the record that if you're at -1, let's say 30 min before deadline, you will self-hammer? Because at this point, if you're town, then the only way hal isn't caught lying is if the same redirect happened on two consecutive nights. Which, of course, is a valid scum strategy... but we gotta lynch someone.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:27
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I'll say this right now, I'll hammer myself if it comes to it today. But I'm town and it's going to be a sad day.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:29
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Slamburger posted:Ok, let's play along with this game. So, the scum busdriver decided to bus you with the scum roleblocker two nights in a row. It's also possible that the busdriver chose the one person that they were confident wouldn't be able to gain any trust by claiming verifiable night actions. Not choosing one of the killing roles, yeah that's weird. Killer might be compulsory ninja, but IP obviously wasn't.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:39
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Like, I'm still reasonably confident my vote will stay on DB until end of day, but going through all options here.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:40
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Dick Bastardly posted:bussing is a thing I'm honored you think I'm that savvy.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:47
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Hal Incandenza posted:Oh come on, yes it is but a D2 fake claim to hard bus the poisoner on your own team is NOT something Sal is going to do Yeah Sal is too dumb to make a play like tha.....WAIT A MINUTE!
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Sep 18, 2018 00:53
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SalTheBard posted:Yeah Sal is too dumb to make a play like tha.....WAIT A MINUTE! Ha! I could have said Sal or just about anyone else, it's just not happening except in some crazy gambits that really never are a thing
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Sep 18, 2018 00:55
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Hal Incandenza posted:Ha! I could have said Sal or just about anyone else, it's just not happening except in some crazy gambits that really never are a thing No I got you buddy I'm just making a joke :-P
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Sep 18, 2018 00:59
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so DB you claiming that you did nothing last night?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:10
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How can you imply that Sal, literally watched and got our first scum kill, was bussing? Sacrificing a scumpal d2 is a very bold, dare I say stupid, move. Which is why I don't think Sal is trying to fool town.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:15
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imgay posted:so DB you claiming that you did nothing last night? Yes
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Sep 18, 2018 01:19
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Toalpaz posted:How can you imply that Sal, literally watched and got our first scum kill, was bussing? Sacrificing a scumpal d2 is a very bold, dare I say stupid, move. Which is why I don't think Sal is trying to fool town. I was just pointing out what I thought was suspicious behavior, but logically that scenario is dumb I agree.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:25
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what about you Toalpaz? why aren't you scum hopping on and off my turbo hmmm?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:26
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Dick Bastardly posted:what about you Toalpaz? why aren't you scum hopping on and off my turbo hmmm? If we're talking about town who should bite the bullet on your fake claim I'm probably the best tool for the job. I was being greedy when I jumped on first.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:28
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Toalpaz posted:If we're talking about town who should bite the bullet on your fake claim I'm probably the best tool for the job. I was being greedy when I jumped on first. ah i see
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I light of all this, where does that put E+ in your opinion?
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