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Gazpacho posted:What songs best describe your work ethic? (Dell)  Joan Jett version 
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Boiled Water posted:My (now previous thank gently caress) boss always took this approach: I get you to develop whatever I feel like. Heck to whomever wants things I don't want. I have lingering bitterness with a boss I had who moved on. Smart guy, but he would decide on broad solutions to problems he didn't completely understand and fend them off to me (being busy, which is fine, that's what team leads have to do). If he had the time to implement itself he would have understood enough of the problem to have seen that his initial thoughts were flawed, meaning his directions on implementation strategy were really flawed... But that's the rub, he was too confident in his ability to deliver whatever he proposed off the cuff that attempting to discuss alternate solutions felt like pulling out teeth. Smart guy, unlike the charlatan bitcoin fuckwit he hired to take his place. Not that smart in the end I guess.
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Sep 17, 2018 14:05
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homercles posted:I have lingering bitterness with a boss I had who moved on. Smart guy, but he would decide on broad solutions to problems he didn't completely understand and fend them off to me (being busy, which is fine, that's what team leads have to do). If he had the time to implement itself he would have understood enough of the problem to have seen that his initial thoughts were flawed, meaning his directions on implementation strategy were really flawed... i am feeling something similar now - my boss is competent (really competent in some areas), but he is far too busy and seems to be bikeshedding software project management from first principles my spider sense should have been screaming at me when he said he had implemented some internal purchase management software in php
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Sep 17, 2018 14:47
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In retrospect I think a lot of it comes down to the system of managerial deference that I got ingrained into me at some impressionable point in my life, to the point where you don't undermine your boss under any circumstance. Somehow the system managed to fillet my spine right from my body without me realising.
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Sep 17, 2018 15:03
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my first several managers were absentees of one sort or another so now I mostly just ignore managers or strive to placate with the least amount of effort possible such that I can better continue to ignore them
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Sep 17, 2018 15:16
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bombing an interview feels bad
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Sep 17, 2018 15:38
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homercles posted:In retrospect I think a lot of it comes down to the system of managerial deference that I got ingrained into me at some impressionable point in my life, to the point where you don't undermine your boss under any circumstance. Somehow the system managed to fillet my spine right from my body without me realising. we are all taught subordination by like a bazillion things in life so you probably shouldn't feel like you are extra bad or culpable, imo
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Sep 17, 2018 15:48
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Bloody posted:my first several managers were absentees of one sort or another so now I mostly just ignore managers or strive to placate with the least amount of effort possible such that I can better continue to ignore them 
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Jimmy Carter posted:found out that I bombed so hard at an interview recently that they had to redefine the job listing, and immediately after they hired someone from my team. Whoops. whatever request generates the most guaranteed profit wins. The trick is to tell sales you're definitely taking their request seriously and then turn around and focus the team on work for which you have been paid or contracts have been signed.
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Sep 17, 2018 15:55
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i wish shaggar was my manager, it would make ignoring him so much more fulfilling
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Sep 17, 2018 16:05
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vetterly trip report: got an interview request a few hours after my profile went public. local company with an actual product you can buy on Amazon too which surprises me a bit because I was expecting fart app providers from the coastal tech hubs
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Sep 17, 2018 16:28
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Munkeymon posted:vetterly trip report: got an interview request a few hours after my profile went public. local company with an actual product you can buy on Amazon too which surprises me a bit because I was expecting fart app providers from the coastal tech hubs companies with real products pay less 
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Sep 17, 2018 16:33
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The performance review numbers are in. I got a 10% raise for exceptional performance last year and to take on new responsibilities in the coming weeks like actually managing people. I also hear back about my interview today so I'm looking forward to potentially dropping a "yeah so these guys offered me 30% on top of what you just raised me to".
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Sep 17, 2018 18:46
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technical phone interview trip report: temporarily lost the ability to tell which of two numbers was greater wtf lol
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Sep 17, 2018 23:31
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a long time ago, possibly in a previous incarnation of this thread, someone posted a list of questions to ask when interviewing. does anyone still have that?
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Sep 18, 2018 16:28
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Mexican Apple Shipment posted:a long time ago, possibly in a previous incarnation of this thread, someone posted a list of questions to ask when interviewing. does anyone still have that? I'm partial to this list https://jvns.ca/blog/2013/12/30/questions-im-asking-in-interviews/
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Sep 18, 2018 16:32
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Mexican Apple Shipment posted:a long time ago, possibly in a previous incarnation of this thread, someone posted a list of questions to ask when interviewing. does anyone still have that? check the op
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Sep 18, 2018 16:33
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Fluue posted:I'm partial to this list https://jvns.ca/blog/2013/12/30/questions-im-asking-in-interviews/ this is a good list. I've also asked (and been asked) what the interviews are working on that day. Can cut through some of the bullshit and makes sure you have an accurate understanding of the sort of work they do.
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Sep 18, 2018 19:43
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also you can ask if devs own their applications after deployment or do they just throw it over a wall
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Sep 18, 2018 19:46
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Bloody posted:check the op wow thanks i am a fool
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Sep 18, 2018 22:18
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be prepared to answer these questions, also from somewhere in this threadquote:"why are you interested in my company/division/team?"
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Sep 18, 2018 22:37
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meatpotato posted:be prepared to answer these questions, also from somewhere in this thread can confirm, have gotten at least 3 of these from every company ive interviewed with, usually all or all but one
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Sep 18, 2018 23:33
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Well I got ghosted completely after a phone interview so I guess I didn't impress the people on the other end. This is after sharing a meal with the CEO and getting a thumbs up to proceed. Like I"m not saying I was THE GUY but I figure I would at least make the first cut for this tiny security company in the Midwest. I would be surprised any other candidates had the experience like I did so maybe I misread what they were after. Time to try elsewhere.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:05
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UNWISE.EXE posted:Well I got ghosted completely after a phone interview so I guess I didn't impress the people on the other end. This is after sharing a meal with the CEO and getting a thumbs up to proceed. or somebody forgot they were supposed to follow up with you or they ran into financial problems and aren't hiring anyone try elsewhere, sure. but honestly probably not your fault e: you could always send a follow-up email, I have literally had the "forgot to follow up" thing
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Sep 19, 2018 02:12
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Arcsech posted:e: you could always send a follow-up email, I have literally had the "forgot to follow up" thing This. Sending a follow up email is professional and in fact looks good. Greet. Mention why you're sending the email. Specifically mention the time you interviewed and for the title of position. Let them know you're still interested and would love to hear about any next steps. Ask for an update. Love, You.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:38
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Turns out I didn't get the job, I screwed up on one of the 3 whiteboards I had that day and apparently that was enough to reject. Oh well. I was stoked to potentially be earning a lot more, but I wasn't keen on the mandated pair programming they seemed to be in love with.
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Sep 19, 2018 03:07
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qhat posted:mandated pair programming they seemed to be in love with. barf
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Sep 19, 2018 03:57
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Sounds like you dodged a bullet.
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Sep 19, 2018 05:03
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ultravoices posted:This. Sending a follow up email is professional and in fact looks good. Can Confirm. I'm going through an interview process right now and had to email the recruiter like 5 times to get things set up right despite them being in the same company and they can see my calendar. Would've probably not gone anywhere had I not kept the ball rolling.
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Sep 19, 2018 07:31
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Arcsech posted:or somebody forgot they were supposed to follow up with you another common cause of radio silence is that the hiring decision requires signoff of multiple stakeholders, and at least one of them is traveling/in a death march/on vacation at any time so the decision gets mooted the req for the position being withdrawn or suspended is another one yeah, follow up. what have you got to lose?
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Sep 19, 2018 07:37
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updates - i was not fired this week, we'll have a face to face discussion about the present state & future of sdlc in this company next tuesday i am feeling sort of hopeful because i had a phone chat and they seemed to get why i am unhappy and that there really is need for a change so maybe i'll get fired next week
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Penisface posted:updates - i was not fired this week, we'll have a face to face discussion about the present state & future of sdlc in this company next tuesday much like business hiring is opaque and contains all sorts of things not related to you, so does firings.
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Sep 19, 2018 13:06
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ex-boss also posted a jobs posting for my current job and it's pretty funny looking. I mean, you'd think they'd learn to put in more specific requirements since having me, but no.
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Sep 19, 2018 13:17
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ADINSX posted:barf Eh tbf my former employer tried this for a couple of years after they went through a bad patch and drank the agile Kool Aid, it didn't last.
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feedmegin posted:Eh tbf my former employer tried this for a couple of years after they went through a bad patch and drank the agile Kool Aid, it didn't last. well ok but they're gonna have to get their own forums account for my frequent YOSPOS breaks, I'm not sharing mine
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Sep 19, 2018 21:34
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ADINSX posted:well ok but they're gonna have to get their own forums account for my frequent YOSPOS breaks, I'm not sharing mine pair programming pair trace log reading pair git unfucking pair email reading pair slack chatting pair company time pooping
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carry on then posted:pair company time pooping finally, a real team-building exercise
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Sep 19, 2018 22:18
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I think I got a job 
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Sep 19, 2018 22:40
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pair programming is the best part of agile imo
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I got a thing to go to tonight, I'm just gonna quote the intro part of the email:quote:Thank you for your interest and applying to roles at Aristocrat! We are reaching out to you since we kept your profile on file, as promised. We would like to connect live with you at our hiring event on Wednesday, September 19th from 4:00 pm - 7:00pm. This Hiring Event is deemed as a casual conversation with our Leaders to learn more about current and future opportunities, so please come as you are. This event is in conjunction with Boyd so you may find opportunities within either organization now that we are partners in the industry! Please reply back to me directly if you are able to come to meet the team. So question since I've never even heard of a "hiring event" (it's at a meeting room in a local hotel, the Gold Coast): is this probably something worth going to? I have an easy excuse to get out with if i'd just be wasting my time
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