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Larryb posted:Avatar (the cartoon) is coming back as a brand new Netflix-exclusive live action series penned by the original writers:
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Sep 18, 2018 18:12
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Xelkelvos posted:What about Super Duper Sumos? I have limits to my scattershot nostalgia, thankfully.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:16
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mystes posted:That sounds like a sort of bad idea. It's a special kind of bad idea where even if it works out and it's good... what's the point? ATLA already exists and is great. Barely a decade old. It's particularly ehhh to me because we have ATLA in the 20s, ATLA in Space and ATLA with Dragon out there already. Sure, there's debates to be had about the quality of all those, but they all take the ATLA roots and go somewhere else with it, and that's more interesting than just going back to ATLA and do it over.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:33
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:It's a special kind of bad idea where even if it works out and it's good... what's the point? ATLA already exists and is great. Barely a decade old. Which one is ATLA in Space? Actually which one is ATLA in the 20s also?
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Sep 18, 2018 18:37
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theblackw0lf posted:Which one is ATLA in Space? The new Voltron show on Netflix and Legend of Korra respectively.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:41
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:It's a special kind of bad idea where even if it works out and it's good... what's the point? ATLA already exists and is great. Barely a decade old. Although if this is a sign that Netflix is now going to focus on churning out "stuff like Avatar" the way it has been churning out crappy superhero shows, I might not complain too much.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:41
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Well it does say that this is going to be a new show rather than an adaptation of the original and the original creators are directly involved. Maybe this will turn out ok but I'm not sure why it needs to be live action. Speaking of Avatar, was the recent Korra graphic novel any good? Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 19:03
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Show creator: our episodes are written so that viewers can get an overall feel for the developing story without needing to worry about specific continuity. Show's home network: [schedules what's reportedly the third episode of a three-episode arc before the first two] Miraculoooooooooooous.
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Sep 18, 2018 21:01
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Doesn't Nick own the Avatar IP? Why is it on Netflix?
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Sep 18, 2018 21:19
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Macrame_God posted:Doesn't Nick own the Avatar IP? Why is it on Netflix?
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Sep 18, 2018 21:27
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Macrame_God posted:Doesn't Nick own the Avatar IP? Why is it on Netflix? This wouldn't be the first time Nick did shows for Netflix, one of their other shows, Pinky Malinky, was supposed to air exclusively on Netflix this summer. Granted then it got pulled at the last minute, so no one knows what's going on with that: https://deadline.com/2018/06/nickelodeon-produce-animated-tv-show-pinky-malinky-netflix-1202414972/
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Sep 18, 2018 21:32
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Plus wasn't Korra being broadcast almost exclusively online by the end of its run anyway?
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Sep 18, 2018 21:41
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:It's a special kind of bad idea where even if it works out and it's good... what's the point? ATLA already exists and is great. Barely a decade old. Cashing in on nostalgia is where the money's at. All those kids who liked the show when they were 10 are now 20 somethings with disposable incomes. And since ATLA still looks great, you can't just re-animate it the same way. It's either live action or 3D CG. Might as well take the road where the odds of failure are probably higher! 
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Sep 18, 2018 22:15
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I have a feeling it's gonna be slightly more adult (by that I mean the humor is going to be toned down and there won't be any Great Divide at all). I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I love the Avatar universe and its characters so being able to spend more time with them could be good. On the other hand, I have a really, really hard time thinking of how live action could do the show any justice. Casting good actors that are accomplished enough martial artists to sell the bending is going to be incredibly tough, and even with a giant budget and ILM the bending in the movie still looked like shiiiiit. I'd much rather that Netflix had ordered a new animated Avatar series.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:22
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asecondduck posted:even with a giant budget and ILM the bending in the movie still looked like shiiiiit Someone post the incredibly slow moving rock gif.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:41
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You'd think that the movie would have dissuaded any further live action plans, but apparently the creators see something in it to make it worth while.
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Sep 18, 2018 23:33
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Just animate the comics like they should have in the first place. Wouldn't be surprised if this turns out like that monkey king show on Netflix. Also the creators were behind Korra too and that doesn't give me much faith in them.
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Sep 18, 2018 23:35
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asecondduck posted:Casting good actors that are accomplished enough martial artists to sell the bending is going to be incredibly tough, and even with a giant budget and ILM the bending in the movie still looked like shiiiiit. SlowRockBending.gif sucks because the direction of the scene sucks. The rest of the bending sucks because half the time they're doing some vague harry potter woo woo and everything is so loving slow You have a group of guys in the back just doing Gymkata slowly and the camera does an intensely languid pan when the one sad rock pops up. There's no sense of scale, of wonder, the guys are just dancing for some reason and a baseball of dirt flies across while everyone just pauses to watch? Shoot it like a Shaw brothers film. BendingGroup is shot low at a dutch angle. They step forward aggressively, the ground fractures and dust flies up. Then a few shots of the guys in the back harnessing all that poo poo to create fuckoff boulders, which two guys punch in unison to send them flying. Get your actors that crazy Matrix training so that they don't look like 10 cent TKD dojo students. 
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Sep 18, 2018 23:35
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Larryb posted:Avatar (the cartoon) is coming back as a brand new Netflix-exclusive live action series penned by the original writers: Wish I screenshot the post when I saw it because I would get a ton of use out of it but I'll recreate it to the best of my ability. I've sometimes seen live action things and thought "this would be super cool animated" but I have NEVER seen something animated and said "boy I wish this was live action".
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Sep 18, 2018 23:52
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Wish I screenshot the post when I saw it because I would get a ton of use out of it but I'll recreate it to the best of my ability. I feel like the CGI Clone Wars and Rebels would have benefited from being live action but I don't think those can really count because they were animated for practical and monetary reasons, not stylistic ones. Pretty much every other animated property uses the medium to its advantage in some way that would be lost in a live action version. Even really basic shows like Family Guy or oddball examples like the animated half-season of Adam Ruins Everything that came out earlier this year benefit from being animated. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 00:04
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Larryb posted:Avatar (the cartoon) is coming back as a brand new Netflix-exclusive live action series penned by the original writers: The follow up to the ATLA live action movie we’ve all been waiting for! 
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Sep 19, 2018 01:44
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So the people who do the Miraculous villain designs really weren't thinking about Maledikteur's silhouette. Spoilers for Miraculous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxkrUlucZ-4
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Sep 19, 2018 04:16
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Senerio posted:So the people who do the Miraculous villain designs really weren't thinking about Maledikteur's silhouette.
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Sep 19, 2018 09:36
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Is his name Toad From Mario Kart?
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Sep 19, 2018 09:45
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Mraagvpeine posted:You'd think that the movie would have dissuaded any further live action plans, but apparently the creators see something in it to make it worth while. There's nothing inherently wrong with the idea of something being live-action. Though I agree it's going to be difficult to make it work. Avatar in particular seems like an exceptionally difficult series to adapt for live action because it relies a lot on elemental bending. The visual effects budget would have to be massive in order to do the show any justice. Given how much Netflix was willing to spend on The Dragon Prince, I'm really doubtful they'd be that much more generous on this new Avatar series. You could probably be mostly okay with fire and air bending as those seem like effects that could theoretically be relatively easy to render. Water and Earth bending seem to be more problematic. But I can deal with middling special effects as long as the story is solid, but that's also where the biggest concerns lie, imo. Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 10:57
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The question is, is it just going to tell the same story or will it shake it up a bit?
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Sep 19, 2018 11:50
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I bet it's gonna shake it up. For starters, they might mess with the timeline a bit so that everyone's a little older at the beginning of the series so they don't have to worry about poo poo like actors voices cracking/growing a foot between seasons. And I hope they do some things like make Zhao more of a presence in the first season. He shows up in, like, the third episode and then roars back in for the first season finale. That's actually, like, the only thing the movie got right.
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Sep 19, 2018 11:59
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They're gonna have Scarlett Johanson play Katara. I just know it.
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Sep 19, 2018 12:26
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I am 100% confident that the cast will entirely be comprised of POC--but that leads to some interesting questions. Fire Nation is obviously Japan, so Japanese actors for them, and Water Nation is Inuit, but Earth Kingdom is a little harder--Ba Sing Se is very obviously a China/Forbidden City analoge, but what about the rest of the continent? Is there room for Indian actors and other POC from southeast Asia in the Earth Kingdom? And do you cast a Tibetan actor for Aang and risk pissing off China?
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Sep 19, 2018 13:08
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I like how China's conquest of Tibet has extended to exterminating fictional Tibets.
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Sep 19, 2018 16:35
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I would definitely be fine with the Earth Kingdom being a multi-ethnic empire, the heartland being Chinese but more distant territories being based on countries historically within the Chinese sphere of influence like Korea and Vietnam.
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Sep 19, 2018 17:42
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Pakled posted:I would definitely be fine with the Earth Kingdom being a multi-ethnic empire, the heartland being Chinese but more distant territories being based on countries historically within the Chinese sphere of influence like Korea and Vietnam. What race would you say Toph is? I want to say they should go with a Chinese actress based on her name and appearance but I could be wrong.
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Sep 19, 2018 18:55
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Larryb posted:What race would you say Toph is? I want to say they should go with a Chinese actress based on her name and appearance but I could be wrong. I'd say Chinese, I don't think they went into it in the show or comic books but I always had the impression her parents used to live in Back Sing Se but got out, aren't they nobility of some sort?
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Sep 19, 2018 21:09
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asecondduck posted:I'd say Chinese, I don't think they went into it in the show or comic books but I always had the impression her parents used to live in Back Sing Se but got out, aren't they nobility of some sort? I've never read the comics so I don't know if they went into the Beifong family origins in any more detail but yes, as far as I can remember her parents were indeed nobles. Speaking of the ATLA/Korra comics, I've heard mixed reviews so far. Are any of them particularly worth reading?
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Sep 19, 2018 22:07
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Larryb posted:I've never read the comics so I don't know if they went into the Beifong family origins in any more detail but yes, as far as I can remember her parents were indeed nobles. There's the second ATLA comic arc, which is about Zuko's mother.
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Sep 19, 2018 22:16
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All of the nations are shown as a bit diverse and having distinct ethnic groups, the Sun Warriors and Ember Island, the North and South Water Tribes, and the Earth Kingdom is indeed all over the place. (it's the biggest both in geography and population) It'd make complete sense to have the entire cast be nonwhite.SlothfulCobra posted:I like how China's conquest of Tibet has extended to exterminating fictional Tibets. Yyyep.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:48
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Eh, the only nation that looks unique is the Water Tribe. All the other three look pretty similar in terms of race/ethnicity (ignoring thing like clothing or hair styles, of course).
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Sep 20, 2018 04:31
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We have Airbenders, Waterbenders etc... when someone figures out how to manipulate metal do they become a Fassbender?
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Sep 20, 2018 05:38
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No, they just become almost as cool as Toph. Who is Tough.
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Sep 20, 2018 06:33
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Mr Interweb posted:Eh, the only nation that looks unique is the Water Tribe. All the other three look pretty similar in terms of race/ethnicity (ignoring thing like clothing or hair styles, of course). The various nations are coded to represent different Asian cultures and I think to shrug and cast everyone besides Water Tribe with, like, Japanese actors would be the wrong way to go. Also does this guy:  Really look like this guy:  Outside of the stylistic similarities inherant in animated character design?
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Sep 20, 2018 13:37
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