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CRAYON
Feb 13, 2006

In the year 3000..



8. Son of Godzilla (1967)

Jun Fukuda's followup to Ebirah, Horror of the Deep is an even goofier, more child friendly take on the Godzilla franchise. The plot revolves around a group of scientists that are trying to alter weather on the remote island Sollgel. It was hard for me to connect with the scientists because I thought their goal was pretty stupid. I was correct, as it eventually caused a massive heatwave that made the already giant insects on the island to grow to epic proportions. Fortunately, the group of scientists were joined by a reporter, Maki and an island local, Saeko who I quite enjoyed. They had great chemistry that made their scenes fun and interesting to watch. Part of me wishes they would have been the only human characters.

After the praying mantis on the island grow to building size they uncover a giant egg at the center of the island that turns out to contain one of the weirdest looking kaiju I have ever seen, a baby Godzilla. While in distress from being attacked by giant insects it calls out to Godzilla and he joins the fray. This leads to some pretty insane scenes of 'Zilla being a mentor to the baby. As well as some awesome scenes of him fighting giant praying mantis, and another local of the island, a giant spider named Kumonga that awakens toward the later part of the film.

The puppetry on the insects is really good, and was definitely my favorite part of the film. It makes me wish more movies today still had the guts to construct puppets. Otherwise, I just had a hard time connecting to the scientist's story and the father son bonding scenes, probably because how insanely goofy the son of Godzilla looks. This is a definitely a light-hearted comedy at it's core, and the movie knows that. I think it would be neat to show the film to my child, whenever that day comes. Hopefully the baby zilla doesn't scare them to death.

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CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Boys in the Trees

This was more of a coming of age drama than a horror movie, but it’s set on Halloween night and there’s supernatural elements so I’m going to count it. 

The plot involves two estranged friends, Corey and Jonah, who are on the verge of graduating high school. Due to circumstances, they end up walking home together and reminisce about their memories and why they grew apart. 

This movie didn’t land with me at all. The plot itself is competent but the script is terrible. The dialogue comes off as pretentious, with everyone speaking metaphorically and trying to convey a deeper meaning in every sentence. 

And as much as we’re supposed to sympathize with Jonah, I found I really didn’t like him. He just came off as smarmy. 

The movie has a long run time as well. It would have benefited from some more editing. For example, there are several montage scenes which only serve to establish the setting/characters. This is fine in and of itself, but each montage runs about 4 minutes while they play through entire songs

The film is fairly well shot and the above mentioned montages do look pretty. The costume design and set design are good as well and really invoke strong imagery of Halloween. It also really hammers home that this is set in the late 90s through the soundtrack and posters. 

Overall I really wanted to like this movie but the screenplay worked too hard against it. This would have benefited from some script doctors to go over things. Other viewers may appreciate this more than I, but I really don’t recommend this one.



[b]Watched (3)[b] Always Watching: A Marble Hornets story; Terrifier; Boys in the Trees

CopywrightMMXI fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Sep 20, 2018

Class3KillStorm
Feb 17, 2011



Okay, I'm in. I'll shoot for 40 films by Halloween, not including what I've seen already in September. So starting from now:



#1. Cat People (1942) - :ghost::ghost::ghost::ghost:/5

This is one I hadn't seen in probably a good 10-15 years. I forgot how great the film looked, with all of its deep pools of inky black throughout. The scene in the pool is a stand-out, with deep shadows thrown everywhere and the reflected light bouncing off the walls.

The film is a model of restraint, especially compared to its contemporaries over in the Universal Monsters stable. However, that may be a point against it; you have to be in the right mindset for this one, both because it's light on direct scares and more interested in the love triangle story and on building tension. (Also because I personally tend to get bored quickly with the broad, stagy delivery of pretty much all actors from this time period. Everyone here is fine, but no one really stands out as exceptional, either.) If you're in that mindset, though, this movie can be very satisfying.


Watched so far: Cat People

Class3KillStorm fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Sep 19, 2018

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Franchescanado posted:

My biggest complaint against that movie is that the poster implies it's an Edwige Fenech movie, and while she's in it for about a 1/3rd of the run-time, she's not in it as much as I want. Which would just be the whole run-time. She's the best part of the movie, for me.

Agreed, she was incredible.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

9. The Strangers (2008)



I'm revisiting this one as part of the added challenge and it also having it's tenth anniversary.

It took me a few years to see this for the first time after it came out. It was touted as unbelievably scary. When I did watch it I couldn't roll my eyes hard enough. My friend i watched it with on the other hand was begging me to keep hanging out because he didn't want to be home by himself. Even on the second viewing it's not doing anything for me.

There's nothing for me to grab on to with it. There are great shots, good acting, and effects. But everything going on just feels so pointless and cliche. It feels like a much more mean spirited version of Halloween and there are so many long stretches where nothing is happening. Maybe there is a layer of subtext I've missed or something else that would enhance my enjoyment? I just can't put my finger on it because usually I enjoy these atmospheric, isolated slashers.

It kept reminding me of Hush, which I liked far more than The Strangers.

1.5 out of 5

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

As far as I'm concerned, The Strangers simply doesn't need to exist in a world where Them, Hush and You're Next do.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

TheKingslayer posted:

The Strangers (2008)

Have you given Ils a try? It's on Shudder under the English title of Them and may better catch your fancy.

graventy
Jul 28, 2006

Fun Shoe
9. Tales of Halloween (2015)


Tales is an anthology film of ten shorts.

My biggest problem with horror anthologies is that they usually try to cram too many stories into one collection. I feel like the best horror films include some build-up before or as the scares begin. Anthologies with more than three or four parts generally don’t have time for that kind of build-up. ABCs of Death just doesn’t really work for me because they just move too fast. In V/H/S (generally), or Trick 'r' Treat, the stories have a little time to breathe.

I thought this fell onto that ‘too fast’ side. And, I was a bit disappointed when two of the shorts were basically the exact same plot (ghost story turns out to be true).

Of the ten I think I enjoyed Grim Grinning Ghost and Bad Seed the most. GGG was one of the true ghost story ones, but surpasses that thanks to cool cameos.

:spooky::spooky:/5

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Butch Cassidy posted:

Have you given Ils a try? It's on Shudder under the English title of Them and may better catch your fancy.

I haven't. But It's going on the list.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
#1 / 31 - Dead Alive (1992) ★★★★★



A few days ago, my fiancee and I were talking about horror movies. Dead Alive came up, and she had, somehow, never seen it or even really heard of it.

I decided we were going to kick off the Horror Challenge a little early, because I needed to fix this and also because I hadn't seen it since high school myself. As it turns out, this movie still completely holds up, and if anything, has only gotten better with age. Every single joke in the movie lands perfectly. The movie, while not traditionally scary, manages to create an oddly unnerving air with its surrealism at times; Les, the chief living villain, seems more inspired by Baron Vladimir Harkonnen than any actual human being, and the universe at times seems to do supremely odd things just to make our hero's life hell. Most importantly, it's a total loving blast to watch, and it's no shock that this is the movie that really launched Peter Jackson's career.

watchlist with links

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 19, 2018

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats




Terrifier (2018)
5/31

Directed by: Damien Leone

Woof, this one really didn't resonate with me. Terrifier felt preoccupied with letting you know how *twisted* the filmmakers were in a way that seemed pretty grating. It's a shame because I think the idea of a monster/killer that's basically the protagonist of a Chaplin film could be really cool and effective in the right hands. The film isn't really paced like a Chaplin film, though, so it comes off as somewhat awkward. Every character who wasn't Art the Clown felt like a sketch of a character, with only the vaguest of traits to set them apart. The VFX work is nice, I guess? There's clearly love put into it, so I don't want to spend too much time ripping this apart, but I guess their idea of what horror should do radically differs from what mine is. Probably the first dud I got.

Friends Are Evil fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 19, 2018

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Dead Alive is a perfect movie.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Franchescanado posted:

Dead Alive is a perfect movie.

Just about, yeah. I hate to admit it but the playground scene is a B- in a movie otherwise filled with A+ scenes. But it's still my favorite horror movie.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Dead Alive... I think I know which one that is and liked it but I'm not sure. Lawnmower, right?

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

STAC Goat posted:

Dead Alive... I think I know which one that is and liked it but I'm not sure. Lawnmower, right?

Yes. Its original title is Braindead.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?





15) King Kong 1933

I wouldn't say I dislike King Kong, but I've always been a bit 'meh' about it. I guess giant gorillas just don't quite click big with me. I will say after having sat through some youtubes of regular silverbacks feeling they've had enough dealing with human bs and dragging a full grown man around as if he's a rag doll, well, I'm going to give King Kong a fresh look.

Skull Island with it's 'lost world' vibe still packs a punch with the concept. While the stop motion is janky by today's standards, having grown up with Rankin-Bass, I don't mind it at all. The story's a bit cheesy but then how much can one do in a giant gorilla movie.

No mention of King Kong can go without the legendary spider pit scene. There's plenty of stories and rumors going around this one. Some say it never made it past the story boards, others say it was filmed then cut for either pacing issues or being too horrifying. Only potential evidence we have of perhaps something being comitted to film are some pics posted in Famous Monsters. If I had a dollar for each time I've had someone swear they had a copy of the footage and it turned out was from another movie like Black Scorpion, I'd be able to take the entire thread out for a round of drinks.

And here's Peter Jackson's recreation of what the scene's believed to have been like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMKnhN7ABs



16) Invisible Man 1933

I admit I'm a little more partial to Invisible Man Returns since I'm a total Vincent Price fangirl. That's not to say Invisible Man's not worth sitting through. The effects are incredible for the time and the degeneration of Griffin's mind still packs a punch. The scene of him sending a woman running while skipping along singing the gathering nuts in May song still makes me laugh.

I still have yet to pick up a 2004 Legacy copy of this one since from what I've read it has a longer version of the movie and I'm curious to see what's different.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Spatulater bro! posted:

Just about, yeah. I hate to admit it but the playground scene is a B- in a movie otherwise filled with A+ scenes. But it's still my favorite horror movie.

Honestly, the playground scene is one of my favorites just for how ridiculous it gets. If it were just a little less absurd, it'd be horrifying, but as it is it makes me lose my poo poo every time.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein

I wasn't expecting to like this, but ended up enjoying it a lot because as goofy as it is, the people involved in making the movie obviously still had plenty of love for the monsters. I don't know a lot about Abbott and Costello, but I was surprised to read that at the time they made this film, their relationship had deteriorated and their future as a comedy team wasn't totally clear. Apparently Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein sparked a major resurgence in their careers that led to a whole run of projects that may not have been made otherwise.

Probably the biggest draw here for me was to be able to see Lugosi in his iconic role once again. It was great fun to watch him play around with the character and see Abbott and Costello play off of him. The two also have some pretty great interactions with The Wolfman, I particularly liked the scene where Costello is a hair away from being mauled by the Wolfman but he's totally clueless to it and the Wolfman can't stop stepping on rakes as he tries to get to him. Simple but hilarious gags, it just works.

I'd recommend watching this movie the way I have, which is to watch a bunch of the classic original monster movies first, then come around to this one and enjoy all of those same monsters in a new context.

Total: 1. Frankenstein(1931) 2. The Old Dark House(1932) 3. The Bride of Frankenstein(1935) 4. The Mummy(1932) 5. The Invisible Man(1933) 6. The Wolfman(1941) 7. House of Frankenstein(1944) 8. House of Dracula(1945) 9. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein(1948)

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Franchescanado posted:

:siren: FRAN CHALLENGE #1: Love Something You Hate :siren:

:ghost: Pick a film from a horror sub-genre* that you don't like, and watch it.

7. Wolf Creek (2005)



I'm not a huge fan of the torture porn sub-genre of film. I liked the first few Saw movies when they had mystery, originality and a great antagonist in Jigsaw. After that, though, the Saw films and the subgenre it spawned just relied on annoying protagonists screaming for 10 straight minutes while being tortured with the blood and gore getting more and more extreme. There wasn't anything to it and it just became this morbid peep show that I couldn't be a part of. Another argument that really drove me up the wall was "Oh, real life is just like that" which is so bleak and nihilistic a view that I really cannot be a part of it. I love horror, but drat.

Roger Ebert was a massive critic of the subgenre and in the 2000s when this subgenre flourished he would single out individual films to criticize. A popular one is his review of Chaos (2005) where he attacks the quoted argument above. It's honestly great reading and a critical hit of an argument. But, anyways, Wolf Creek was one of the films he singled out and is usually included in his Hated Movies collections. I figure that's more than enough to qualify for the Fran Challenge.

Wolf Creek is a low budget Australian grindhouse style horror movie. It has no-name actors, shaky cam, washed colors, improvised dialogue and a general care-free attitude towards language and subject matter. The typical trademarks of the subgenre. It's the usual story about some 20-somethings going on a road trip in the middle of nowhere, getting stuck and have to deal with crazy psychotic Bogans (Australian rednecks) who put them through hell.

The first half of the movie is a slow build. We see the characters, don't get to know much about them other than they are travellers to a remote area of Western Australia when their car breaks down. A seemingly friendly Bogan comes to help and lifts them back to his place for the night with the plans to fix their car in the morning. So, yeah, pretty cliched so far. The rest of the film is where the torture comes in and it's your usual screaming in darkness with flashes of brutality and uneasiness at how grim it is all getting. It didn't make me a fan, I can't say I'll add more 00s torture porn to the challenge but I didn't think this one was bad in an alarming way. It horrified me, for sure but I can't say I'll recommend or take anything away from it.

:spooky::spooky:/5

Total: 1. The Conjuring 2 (2016), 2. Terrifier (2016), 3. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948), 4. Split (2017), 5. The First Purge (2018), 6. Trick 'R Treat (2009), 7. Wolf Creek (2005)

Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Sep 19, 2018

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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3) Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1941)



A strange beast. Reuben Mamoulian's movie was essentially a banned production following the introduction of the Code, seen only in a massively cut form which took out all the licentiousness. MGM wanted to get some of the action, so they bought it from Paramount and remade it to an almost identical script except with a bit more churchin' up and a lot less nudity. The result isn't a bad movie in and of itself, but watching both versions back to back shows up the flaws in the remake. While March's makeup seems a mite extreme, Spencer Tracy as Jekyll and Hyde is like comparing sane Nic Cage with crazy Nic Cage - they look too much the same for anyone not to realise the "big secret". And while the remake has huge star power compared to the original, the performances simply aren't as good.

Also the 1941 version loses points for everyone bar one actress pronouncing "Jekyll" wrong.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 27, 2018

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Justin Godscock posted:

7. Wolf Creek (2005)

This is what I was going to watch for Fran Challenge #1!

Saw it in theaters and hated it.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


5. Friday the 13th (2009)

I was back at the library today and thought I'd take advantage of the circulating Blu Ray collection. This is the first Friday the 13th movie I've ever watched and it delivered pretty much what I expected.

The 'secret patch of free weed' flashback that starts the movie off was a fun framing device to explain why the hell a bunch of teenagers would go to an abandoned summer camp in the middle of the woods. The characters and script are servicable if goofy, but I was absolutely stoked to see Ryan Hansen as (what else?) a doofus bro who wants to gently caress. The kills are all brutal and sudden and Jason himself walks the line between a movie monster and someone who's just really good at killing. I imagine this would have been much more fun with friends, but I still enjoyed it a lot.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Franchescanado posted:

This is what I was going to watch for Fran Challenge #1!

Saw it in theaters and hated it.

I'm also leaning towards it (because I don't like torture porn) or Friday the 13th Part 3 (because I really didn't like the first two).

edit: Or maybe I'll try the remake. Not sure. But A Jason movie is my leading contender for that challenge at the moment.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Sep 19, 2018

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
I was really surprised at how good Friday the 13th 2009 was as far as modern horror remakes go. I would recommend anyone give it a watch because it has a scary and brutal Jason who no-nonsense tears through the cast. I am really surprised people don't talk about it more because I honestly would rank it above at least half of the F13 sequels (maybe a little more).

I also read somewhere that Blumhouse has been trying, unsuccessfully, to get the rights to do their own take. If their version of Halloween is as good as it looks I really want them to give every 70s/80s slasher series a shot.

Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Sep 19, 2018

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I really liked the Friday the 13th remake a lot more than I thought I would, too. Jason comes across less like a supernatural killer and more of an incredibly efficient and skilled hunter who just outclasses the teenagers to the point that it’s not even fair. It’s like if they remade Rambo: First Blood with Rambo as the villain. He’s not some kind of unstoppable monster, he’s just that dangerous.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Xenomrph posted:

I really liked the Friday the 13th remake a lot more than I thought I would, too. Jason comes across less like a supernatural killer and more of an incredibly efficient and skilled hunter who just outclasses the teenagers to the point that it’s not even fair. It’s like if they remade Rambo: First Blood with Rambo as the villain. He’s not some kind of unstoppable monster, he’s just that dangerous.

I also really appreciated that Jared Padalecki's character wasn't a badass in any respect, just a guy who really wants to find his sister and is willing to push himself through bad situations because of that.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
Retroactively adding my goal: 31 movies AND fulfilling all of the Fran challenges outside of the base 31.

1/31. - Tales From the Darkside: The Movie

I have seen the last 10-15 minutes of this about 100 times on HBO back in the day so I thought I would give it a shot. What a cast! Christian Slater, Julianne Moore and Steve Buscemi right in the first story! The story itself was pretty standard horror fare and was solid enough. I do wonder how Buscemi couldn�t pay for his own takeout but managed to buy a mummy.

The second tale where a hitman is hired to kill a murderous cat is pretty hilarious but that�s all the positive I have for it. Nice to see Tio Salamanca get owned by Satan cat.

The last bit is the best. Other than James Remars awful makeup this story delivers. The creature he ends up mating with is wild looking and the story pays off in the end. I also got a kick out of James Remar being in a movie where the first actress on screen is named Deborah Harry.

2/31. - The Fog (1980)

Again with the names. I�m sure to you super horror fans this is well known but I couldn�t help but notice the next to last name in the opening credits was Nancy Loomis.

This is sort of a rewatch as I vaguely remember watching this sometime ago and thinking it was pretty average. I did enjoy it a bit more this time but still not all that much happens and it�s more about the atmosphere, setting, and score. Jamie Lee Curtis is great, Tom Atkins manages to look a decade older then he does in Season of the Witch which came out 2 years later. Gotta keep that mustache Tom. I feel like there are 15-25 minutes of footage somewhere that really enhance the film.

Neat callback in Tales From Halloween with Adrienne Barbeau playing the town DJ that I didn�t catch until I watched the Fog today. I don�t know that I will ever feel the need to watch this again but I�m glad I watched it today.

TheBizzness fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Oct 10, 2018

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007
Finally starting this:

1. Terrifier (2017)

🤡

I agree with most of the prevailing opinions about this. Loved the guy who played Art the Clown, loved how it didn't pull any punches with the gore, and I really liked how fast past it felt. Someone said that the clown looked "too scary" at one point in the thread and I kind of agree. I've known about this movie for a while and wasn't really excited about it because the clown had a ICP teeshirt kind of feel to him, but in action I think he really works. It was pretty surprising when he pulls out a gun and just shoots "our" heroine in the face. You don't see that kind of thing in many slashers.

4/5

2. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) (umpteenth rewatch)



My wife wanted to watch these movies so we're going through the first few of them. It's weird how once you've seen a movie a bunch you start to focus on the stupidest poo poo. Like trying to figure out if they call him "Fred" or "Freddy" more, or just staring, staring, and staring at John Saxton's hairpiece. One thing I've never loved about the movie was the booby-trap stuff. I know Craven was just really into those and the time and worked them in but they feel so mundane in a movie about a dream-demon. That first kill with the rotating room will always be great though.

4.5/5

3. A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985) (rewatch)



The gender and sexuality stuff comes up about this movie a bunch and that definitely makes it more interesting, but I thought it really dragged there in the middle. It especially felt that way after watching the first one the day before. The movie can be pretty funny at times though. I guess overall I just wasn't feeling it this time around.

2.5/5

4. A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987) (rewatch)



Like all correct people I believe this is the high water mark of the series. A coworker of my wife recently took their own life, and with that on our minds it was hard not to notice how much of the movie is centered around suicide. That's not the movies fault of course, it was just something I hadn't noticed before. Otherwise it was a really fun rewatch.

4.75/5

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Jedit posted:

2) Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1941)


A strange beast. Reuben Mamoulian's movie was essentially a banned production following the introduction of the Code, seen only in a massively cut form which took out all the licentiousness. MGM wanted to get some of the action, so they bought it from Paramount and remade it to an almost identical script except with a bit more churchin' up and a lot less nudity. The result isn't a bad movie in and of itself, but watching both versions back to back shows up the flaws in the remake. While March's makeup seems a mite extreme, Spencer Tracy as Jekyll and Hyde is like comparing sane Nic Cage with crazy Nic Cage - they look too much the same for anyone not to realise the "big secret". And while the remake has huge star power compared to the original, the performances simply aren't as good.

Also the 1941 version loses points for everyone bar one actress pronouncing "Jekyll" wrong.

Man I really need to get around to watching these movies. I didn't know that back story about them.

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
:ohdear: How am I in the horror discord and only seeing this 8 pages deep?!

I'm in for 31. Don't know that I will review all 31, but by god I'll watch that many.

SMP
May 5, 2009

Franchescanado posted:

:siren: FRAN CHALLENGE #1: Love Something You Hate :siren:
:ghost: Pick a film that you have seen before that you hated, did not like or just didn't get. Rewatch it, and re-evaluate.

4. Halloween (1978) - 3/5 (Fran Challenge)

quote:

This is my third time watching this movie, and I just don't get it. I want to love it, I really do. I love Carpenter and the October/Halloween atmosphere, so on paper this should be perfect...but it just isn't.

Loomis is cool as poo poo though, and I love his investigation. The writing in his first scene is so sharp, it's probably the only part of the movie I love. My problem is that he paints a far different picture of Michael than the one we got. Michael...doesn't really do poo poo. He just stands menacingly for the first like hour-twenty. He's so boring. And when he starts killing, the only interesting part is the murder of Bob.

It's through a rather cold and calculative viewing experience that I've arrived at this ranking (three stars, up from two). I certainly see what there is to like, and it's incredibly well made, but it just does nothing for me. I give up. I'm done trying to make this work, but I'm keen to give some of the sequels (and Zombie's films) a go.

:negative:

Money Bags
Jun 27, 2013

2. Cape Fear (1962)




I loved this film and I love Robert Mitchum. I loved him in Night of the Hunter and I loved him in this. He makes such a good villain and I admit I experienced genuine tension leading up to the climax of the film. The bit with Mitchum's character and the wife was :stare:

4/5 Very good film



1. Prom Night (1980) 2. Cape Fear (1962)

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Day -12 - The Thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ftmr17M-a4

I used to be pretty squeamish when I was younger. I avoided watching The Thing for a long time because it had a reputation as the most horrifying and disgusting movie ever made. But back in 1998, there was this new format called Digital Video Disks, I had bought myself a player, and I needed something more than Bladerunner to watch on it. So over at Best Buy they had their one rack of DVD's and there it was. People had been talking online about how it was one of the best DVD releases so far, so I decided to give the movie a chance. And it was amazing.

While rewatching The Thing it occurred to me that this isn't a movie with one of the greatest scenes in horror in it, it's a movie with two of the greatest scenes in horror in it. After an hour of mounting paranoia and dread with no really horrifying view of the monster since it was established (well, there's monster hands but I don't count them), there's that sudden burst where everything goes bananas in the most disgusting way. And then the amazing blood test scene where all the paranoia in the movie comes to a head (but not the head since that was the previous scene).

The comparisons to The Thing from Another World are obvious, but I think The Thing actually leans heavily toward Hitchcock than Hawks. The building paranoia and distrust fits his common themes, and the blood test is staged exactly like Hitchcock would have shot it. Okay, he wouldn't have had squirming blood splatters and petroleum jelly smeared puppets, but the point stands.

John Carpenter mentions something in his commentary (which is extremely good and worth listening to; it was recorded for the laserdisk release back when people actually put effort into commentaries): the people who have been taken over don't necessarily realize they've been taken over until it's time to drop the mask. The dog acts like a dog because the Thing thinks its a dog until it has to expose itself. It's an interesting idea that makes the paranoia even deeper since everyone is going to believe that they're human.

I never liked that scene where the computer has all the answers to how the alien operates, that there's likely at least one person already replaced, and what happens to the world if it get out of Antarctica. And why are there so many flamethrowers at this scientific research station?

Justin Godscock posted:

I was really surprised at how good Friday the 13th 2009 was as far as modern horror remakes go. I would recommend anyone give it a watch because it has a scary and brutal Jason who no-nonsense tears through the cast. I am really surprised people don't talk about it more because I honestly would rank it above at least half of the F13 sequels (maybe a little more).

I really hate the Friday the Thirteenth movies, but I appreciated how efficient the remake was. At least the first twenty minutes. Then it slams on the brakes and becomes the boring stuff I hate in those movies.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

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The Nude Vampire
6/31
Directed by: Jean Rollin

I have a huge soft spot for horror that leans more towards surrealism/abstraction, so it's kinda surprising this is my only experience with Jean Rollin so far. It doesn't disappoint. The craft involved feels incredibly confident and interested in formal experimentation, willing to go long stretches without dialogue or music. It can be a tad slow at times, but I think it allows for some subtly creepy moments. I want one of those creepy animal cultist masks.

Mover
Jun 30, 2008


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The Eyes of My Mother (2016)

I saw this film in theaters when it came out a couple of years ago and was completely blown away. I've watched it twice since then and it continues to be one of my favorites, and I hope it will be remembered in the horror canon for a long time to come. While there are movies I personally like more, I think EomM comes close to being a perfect film for what it is.

I've read negative criticism of the film based around how relentless and lacking in hope it is. The extremity of its cruelty. And I suppose it's good to be forewarned going in that this is a movie that lets no light in. The text of what happens in the course of the story rivals some of the new wave of extreme French horror. What I am struck by every time, and what becomes more and more noticeable on rewatches, is how little gore there actually is. You will know exactly what is happening, but the movie doesn't revel or even linger on its depiction.

Kika Magalhaes plays the hell out of Francisca, the main character and a genuine monster. Magalhaes has a background as a dancer and brings an incredible, unique physicality to her role. She's cold, terrifying, and brutal, and equally vulnerable and isolated.

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It's short, with a run time of only 77 minutes, but feels complete and stays with you for a long time. For some people it's a nightmare they'll badly want to wake from, but for me I enjoyed my time in the world built by the camera and the small cast. Stark, beautiful, terrible, depraved. Plus there's one long shot, which you'll know when you see it, that makes me fukken nut whenever I rewatch.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Franchescanado posted:

The first challenge is Love Something You Hate.

Challenge #1 here we go! and I choose...

7) The Babadook



I HATED this when it came out. Kid was annoying, mom was annoying, "monster" was stupid, ending was laughable. So, I rewatched it, with an open mind. I'm still not totally sold on the film, but I'd say it bumped up from 1 spook to... 3 spooks. Knowing what I'm in for definitely helps. Last time I saw it, there was SO MUCH hype around it that I was expecting something far more amazing. So, this time I was entertained, even though the kid is still annoying and the Babadook itself is laughable.

:spooky::spooky::spooky:/5

SMP
May 5, 2009

SMP posted:

4. Halloween (1978) - 3/5 (Fran Challenge)

I immediately followed this up with...

5. Halloween II (1981) - 3.5/5

quote:

I liked this one! What's wrong with me? Everyone seems to dislike it, at best.

Michael is WAY more proactive and interesting. Dude walking through the glass door was stone cold. There's a bit of sadism in his kills this time around (compared to the first's mostly utilitarian murders) so I get why people might think it's a bit extra.

I really dug the hospital setting, and the timeframe being the immediate aftermath of the first film. Kind of odd and refreshing to see a movie start at the point where everyone recognizes the threat. Donald Pleasance kicks rear end. I was also very impressed by Curtis' hamstrung physical performance.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Justin Godscock posted:

I was really surprised at how good Friday the 13th 2009 was as far as modern horror remakes go. I would recommend anyone give it a watch because it has a scary and brutal Jason who no-nonsense tears through the cast. I am really surprised people don't talk about it more because I honestly would rank it above at least half of the F13 sequels (maybe a little more).

I despise that film.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
8. King Kong (1976)



King Kong (1933) is a classic and mandatory viewing for those interested in the giant monster genre. It’s become an influential piece of cinema and keeps being revisited. Kong: Skull Island (2017) is the second in a planned crossover with Godzilla which so far looks very promising with Godzilla: King of the Monsters set for 2019. The previous remake was King Kong (2005) by Peter Jackson which was a bit of a watch (3 hours) and a huge love letter to the original which I too enjoyed.

But, there is one remake that seems to keep being forgotten and that is the remake from 1976. Maybe it’s because King Kong climbs the original World Trade Center which even before 9/11 was frowned upon because it’s the Empire State Building that’s iconic. I still remember pre-9/11 this was what everyone remembered and complained about. I’ve never seen it, just all the ones I already mentioned, so I decided to watch it.

The movie opens with a crew surveying oil who go to an island shrouded with a thick, never-changing mist. The reasoning is they see signs of oil in satellite images and decide to investigate. The reasoning for this is the 70s energy crisis is going on and the movie is being current for the time. When they get there, they find the tribals who worship Kong and decide the blonde white girl would make a suitable sacrifice and give her to Kong. So, basically, the outline for the 1933 King Kong thus far.

The movie relies on pretty much every single special effects trick you can think of prior to computers coming on the scene. Roto-scoping, guys in rubber suits, massive animatronic ape hands, matte paintings, models and all kinds of practical effects are tossed onto the screen. It gets a little distracting after a while and dates the movie quite a bit in parts. This was also a year before Star Wars which was able to bring all those techniques together into a cohesive vision.

The biggest problem I had with this movie is it really does not have any of the creative adventure that made the original (and even the 2005 version) memorable. Kong fights a giant snake once in this movie: that’s it. No T-Rexes, no bug attacks and no crazy jungle adventures and even the final scene in New York doesn’t make up for it. Maybe a limitations on special effects at the time (a LOT of effort was put into Kong as well) but I see why this is the forgettable Kong.

:spooky::spooky:/5

Total: 1. The Conjuring 2 (2016), 2. Terrifier (2016), 3. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948), 4. Split (2017), 5. The First Purge (2018), 6. Trick 'R Treat (2009), 7. Wolf Creek (2005), 8. King Kong (1976)

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
#2 / 31 - Cold Prey (2005) ★★★☆☆



A group of Norwegian young adults go snowboarding in the Alps; one of them breaks his leg, and they take refuge in a seemingly abandoned cabin, only to find out that it's occupied by a masked man the size of a house who wields a giant pickaxe.

This feels like a made-for-SyFy movie. It looks like straight up butt cheeks aside from a few nice nature shots that I presume are stock footage, the English dub acting is horrific (and unfortunately was the only audio track available to me), the pacing drags like hell, the characters are largely unlikable jackasses, the body count is low, and (the biggest crime of all) there's almost no gore and no nudity whatsoever.

But, with that said, this movie pretty much held my attention through it. Maybe I was just in the mood for a generic, kind of crappy slasher, but whatever itch I had, this scratched it.

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