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strong bird posted:iron should be above bronze as a superior metal Wasn't bronze historically a better material than iron, just way harder to make and in smaller quantities. I mean bronze age times, not now
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hold on let me click on this link that says 'ferrous metallurgy'
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Sep 19, 2018 19:06
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Wasn't bronze historically a better material than iron, just way harder to make and in smaller quantities. Not in the least. Bronze was used because it was relatively easy to work with; iron requires heat in excess of 2800'F to melt, well beyond the limits of primitive kilns, and needs special procedures to deal with impurities and prevent corrosion. A guy with an iron sword would absolutely pulverize bronze armor and weaponry.
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Sep 19, 2018 19:11
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Vermain posted:Not in the least. Bronze was used because it was relatively easy to work with; iron requires heat in excess of 2800'F to melt, well beyond the limits of primitive kilns, and needs special procedures to deal with impurities and prevent corrosion. A guy with an iron sword would absolutely pulverize bronze armor and weaponry. what if the bronze weapon was a gun, and the armor was a tank
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Sep 19, 2018 19:15
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rabidsquid posted:what if the bronze weapon was a gun, and the armor was a tank *sighs, unsheathes iron katana*
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strong bird posted:iron should be above bronze as a superior metal
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Sep 19, 2018 19:19
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Personally I cannot wait to sink to new lows
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Sep 19, 2018 19:22
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I'm guessing they chose iron based off of its ornamental value over its actual structural properties. You might see people even today wearing bronze necklaces or earrings or something, but what kind of weirdo would wear iron to look good?
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Sep 19, 2018 19:22
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kingcobweb posted:He somehow is both lower-ranked than me and has a worse Pyke win rate. I didn't think the latter was possible  Maokai
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Sep 19, 2018 19:24
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theres been a typo, its actually the irony division
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Sep 19, 2018 19:28
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Vermain posted:I'm guessing they chose iron based off of its ornamental value over its actual structural properties. You might see people even today wearing bronze necklaces or earrings or something, but what kind of weirdo would wear iron to look good? Shoulda picked lead, then. It works on so many levels: -Is likewise a dull, non-decorative metal -Doesn't have a particular reputation for strength or martial utility -Is toxic -Is used to isolate dangerously radioactive things, in much the way as the new division will be used to isolate the worst League players
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Sep 19, 2018 19:29
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bronze is actually way more organized and skilled than it used to be but all the fun joking aside having a lower division for people who are new isnt the straight worst thing in the world, especially if placements start you in bronze by default instead of silver
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Sep 19, 2018 19:33
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the divisions should be dragon runite adamantite mithril black gold silver bronze
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Sep 19, 2018 19:35
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Vermain posted:I'm guessing they chose iron based off of its ornamental value over its actual structural properties. You might see people even today wearing bronze necklaces or earrings or something, but what kind of weirdo would wear iron to look good? I'm guessing they chose Iron because it's still Masculine and Strong and wouldn't make bads feel even more terrible than they would if they were stuck in Paper or Wood or Tin or Talc League.
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Sep 19, 2018 20:35
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Wood tier is such a meme that I'm surprised they didn't do it.
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Sep 19, 2018 20:42
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Wood tier is such a meme that I'm surprised they didn't do it. New tier: Maokai's Nuts
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Sep 19, 2018 20:44
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duck trucker posted:New tier: Maokai's Nuts That would be a great division title
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Are there any good tools out there that can help me get a quick understanding of how I should be playing certain match ups? I don't play a lot right now, but when I have been playing its primarily been TF/mid. I've gotten to the point where I'm no longer being matched up against an endless stream of annies and am starting to see a lot of mid lane variety.
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its curtains for Kevin posted:I’m retired. Just think of me as a friendly player like Elentor. Highfive retired buddy. 
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Wasn't bronze historically a better material than iron, just way harder to make and in smaller quantities. Depends on what you mean by better and by iron. Bronze is way easier to make and work with. Copper is just kind of everywhere and if you can melt copper you can make bronze. If you gently caress up the ratio you just melt it again and fix it. The issue is getting tin. Tin is abundant wherever it is but isn't everywhere like copper and iron are. Pure iron actually sucks. Like...a lot. It also has a much higher melting point than copper. What is better than bronze is steel which is a horrible pain to make. What you think of as iron making is actually steel making. You have to get carbon in the iron which is much harder than "melt this poo poo, melt this other poo poo, mix them together." The history is really complex but that's the short of it. Edit: iron working also didn't entirely eliminate bronze either. Bronze was still heavily used by anybody who could get their hands on the tin. It's really easy to make and good enough for most uses. Early iron working was also shittier than bronze but as it got better it increasingly displaced bronze. Bronze is also still used as it's better than steel for some things. ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 21:12
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They should’ve named it copper. And then when I flash away from a teamfight and everyone on their team is chasing me I’ll be like “you’ll never catch me alive, coppers”
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Sep 19, 2018 21:14
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they should have made it stone and instead of calling people bronzies you call them stoners
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Sep 19, 2018 21:19
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pog boyfriend posted:they should have made it stone and instead of calling people bronzies you call them stoners Well tokers are jokers so it's an appropriate name for the worst at the game
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Sep 19, 2018 21:36
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it should have been Glass to reflect the fragile minds of the ninjas and samurais who will naturally gravitate to that division
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Sep 19, 2018 22:29
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It should have been salt.
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Sep 19, 2018 22:34
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JerryLee posted:Shoulda picked lead, then. It works on so many levels: looool post this on the subreddit
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Erdricks posted:Are there any good tools out there that can help me get a quick understanding of how I should be playing certain match ups? I don't play a lot right now, but when I have been playing its primarily been TF/mid. I've gotten to the point where I'm no longer being matched up against an endless stream of annies and am starting to see a lot of mid lane variety. Unfortunately, the only way to learn how to play matchups is to both experience a lot of them yourself and watch videos of expert players to understand how they handle them. In general, when going into an unfamiliar matchup, it's best to play it slow to start out with and consider a few surface-level things:
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Erdricks posted:Are there any good tools out there that can help me get a quick understanding of how I should be playing certain match ups? I don't play a lot right now, but when I have been playing its primarily been TF/mid. I've gotten to the point where I'm no longer being matched up against an endless stream of annies and am starting to see a lot of mid lane variety. It's not mid but if you ever end up laning against Fiora just rush bramble for your first item and laugh in her face
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I remember wasting a lot of time searching lolcounters on my games. Vague and frequently outdated. Lets say you have 2 minutes of load time between identifying your matchup and playing the videogame. Copy and pasting your team on op.gg is a good use of that time in the lobby. In the load screen you can see your opponents. Vital information to process is to see who is playing in their off role. Most useful thing I ever look up is the lolwiki to see what the enemy laner's ability cool downs are for early laning.
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Do a youtube search for the matchup as soon as you know what it is.
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JerryLee posted:Shoulda picked lead, then. It works on so many levels: -Is heavy enough that it is virtually uncarriable and always drops to the bottom
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a lot of players at all elos are uncarriable because they've been taught to believe they must 1v9 to win every game and if they cannot personally 1v9 their time is being wasted and you might as well FF or feed
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rabidsquid posted:a lot of players at all elos are uncarriable because they've been taught to believe they must 1v9 to win every game and if they cannot personally 1v9 their time is being wasted and you might as well FF or feed this is my mindset and it's served me just fine, I'm in bronze not iron, the worst tier
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RealFoxy posted:*Iron is now below Bronze tier in ranked. How the gently caress has not a single Riot dev played Runescape, jfc
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As a midlaner, I've been keeping my normal yellow ward and primarily using it to ward flanks during lane and for objectives. Is that what I should be doing, or is there something else? At my current elo, I see that supports are primarily sweeping and droping red wards to disable.
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if you're going to roam heavily a sweeper is good because it disables vision immediately and is faster than dropping a pink
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rabidsquid posted:if you're going to roam heavily a sweeper is good because it disables vision immediately and is faster than dropping a pink sweeper for assassins or when you want to get picks, blue for all other situations is generally what I do as mid
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Erdricks posted:As a midlaner, I've been keeping my normal yellow ward and primarily using it to ward flanks during lane and for objectives. Is that what I should be doing, or is there something else? At my current elo, I see that supports are primarily sweeping and droping red wards to disable. do what you want to do, blue is foolproof -- if you take it, since you are not just taking the default option you immediately look like you know what you are doing. red is good for aggressive players, and yellow if you are playing really defensive/value and staying mid a lot of the time is nice to contribute to vision in the river. but you can not state enough how important the factor of looking cool that blue trinket provides you. its the league of legends version of driving manual.
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Note that the main benefit of blue trinket is on checking areas of darkness around important objectives, such as around Baron. If you're playing a champion like Twisted Fate or Lux, who have ways of checking far into fog without risking their lives, it's easier to get away with sticking with yellow or red trinket for most of the game.
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