|
zapplez posted:Trading Yelich for anything less than a top 10 in baseball prospect should have been veto'd by the league as operating in bad faith. Trading away a star young player with an extremely team friendly contract is so incredibly stupid. Yelich wasn't a star before this year. He came into this season with a career OPS+ of 121, which right now would be joint 35th in baseball.
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 13:48 |
|
|
Kevlar v2.0 posted:Extra special thanks for giving them to the 3 teams I hate the most. I don't think anyone saw Yelich blowing up like he did though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:05
|
|
|
Julio Cruz posted:Yelich wasn't a star before this year. He came into this season with a career OPS+ of 121, which right now would be joint 35th in baseball. Over that four year span, he was one of 25 players to put up 16+ fWAR. Only 8 of those were 26 years old or younger though. He was an excellent young player on a very team friendly deal and the Marlins sold him for peanuts. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Sep 24, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:06
|
|
|
bawfuls posted:Yelich had played 4 full seasons before being traded. In those seasons he put up fWAR of 4.1, 2.4, 5.5, & 4.6 They definitely could and should have got more, but a top 10 in baseball prospect would have been out of reach.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:10
|
|
|
Julio Cruz posted:They definitely could and should have got more, but a top 10 in baseball prospect would have been out of reach. It was FIVE years of potential team control (with the final year a team option) at a salary level that would break even if he put up like half a WAR a year, all for his ages 26-30 seasons. edit: in the worst season of his career, Yelich was worth more than the $14M he is owed in his age 29 season. And he's only making $7M this year. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 24, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:14
|
|
|
He was a legit proven name in baseball on a super friendly deal. He absolutely should have went for a ton more. 8th in fWAR for qualified outfielders from 2013-2017. And he's one of the youngest players on that list. Also: "Not A Star" getting MVP votes in the year 2016 and receiving the silver slugger (I know dumb award, but that means people are at least recognizing him for something). Miami has no fans, he wasn't getting the all star votes of course. Especially with Stanton there. Thom P. Tiers fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Sep 24, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:17
|
|
|
Yeah but was he an ALL-STAR? I didn't think so!
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:20
|
|
|
Derek Jeter bought a nice but high mileage used Porsche but in order to make his monthly payment had to sell off the wheels and is riding around on donuts, fills it with the lowest octane fuel it can run on and he can only afford an oil change every 30k miles. But hey, he has his own Porsche.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:22
|
|
|
Remember when the Marlins had baseball's best outfield and traded it all away for peanuts?
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:27
|
|
|
Was there some kind of grift or scam at play with that trade, what the gently caress. Or is Jeter's regime just stupid? I haven't paid any attention to them.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:27
|
|
|
Derek Jeter is me when I was 17 in high school and tried to convince my parents that I could totally afford to move out with another friend and live off my minimum wage part time job at the gas station because I did the budget and as long as I don't drive anywhere and spend less than $20 a week on food and only have one light bulb running for 4 hours a night I could technically make it work. But unlike my parents MLB actually let him.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:27
|
|
|
iospace posted:I don't think anyone saw Yelich blowing up like he did though. I swear half the writers at Fangraphs predicted that he would, or at least that the move to a different park would give him better numbers. To be fair to the Marlins, Brinson was a legit top 100 prospect. He just happened to turn into, uh, one of the worst players in baseball this year.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:31
|
|
|
GalacticAcid posted:Was there some kind of grift or scam at play with that trade, what the gently caress. Popete posted:Derek Jeter is me when I was 17 in high school and tried to convince my parents that I could totally afford to move out with another friend and live off my minimum wage part time job at the gas station because I did the budget and as long as I don't drive anywhere and spend less than $20 a week on food and only have one light bulb running for 4 hours a night I could technically make it work. I mean, Jeter is just the fall guy for the ownership group (which he should have known going in so I don't feel too bad for him) whose entire MO is to just cut costs and MLB shouldn't have let such a debt-burdened group buy the team.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 22:32
|
|
|
Ken Giles posted:I’m actually enjoying the game more than I did for my entire tenure in Houston. It’s kind of weird to say that because I won a World Series with that team. But it’s like, I just felt trapped there. I didn’t feel like myself there. Overall, I felt out of place.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:10
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/timwilliamsP2/status/1044348274096975874
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:11
|
|
|
what about that Orioles player, did he end up having the worst season in history?
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:12
|
|
|
Epic High Five posted:what about that Orioles player, did he end up having the worst season in history? They pulled Chris Davis so he wouldn’t qualify, I think.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:13
|
|
|
Pancakes posted:They pulled Chris Davis so he wouldn’t qualify, I think. boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:13
|
|
|
Inspector_666 posted:I mean, Jeter is just the fall guy for the ownership group (which he should have known going in so I don't feel too bad for him) whose entire MO is to just cut costs and MLB shouldn't have let such a debt-burdened group buy the team. they do not want ownership groups willing to spend big, particularly in major markets where the potential is there Dodgers current spend-free ownership group was only able to buy the team because the usual MLB owner selection process was subservient to a bankruptcy auction. When the Dodgers were sold to McCourt, his wasn't even the highest bid, nor was it the best capitalized (it was almost entirely debt).
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:20
|
|
|
Pancakes posted:They pulled Chris Davis so he wouldn’t qualify, I think. They benched him for a while but then they let him play again and he was less bad. Like he was still one of the worst players in baseball, but not like, record settingly bad. So far this year he has -3.2 fWAR this year which is like 4th or 5th worst ever, when at one point he was on pace for like -5. Edit: Also https://twitter.com/hankschulman/status/1044363827356196865 Huh. Strasburgs UCL fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 25, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2018 23:23
|
|
|
Sabean rumored to be bringing back NedCo, as he wrapped up his Double Agent stint down south. They should look at that Ethier contract carefully.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 00:52
|
|
|
Popete posted:Derek Jeter is me when I was 17 in high school and tried to convince my parents that I could totally afford to move out with another friend and live off my minimum wage part time job at the gas station because I did the budget and as long as I don't drive anywhere and spend less than $20 a week on food and only have one light bulb running for 4 hours a night I could technically make it work. I had this exact same experience.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 00:56
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/hankschulman/status/1044372593644527616 oh thank god Bobby Evans was a part of, but far from the sole reason for the Giants' recent struggles. If Giants are to get back on track, the first step is to massively overhaul their drafting and development.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 01:03
|
|
|
Ammat The Ankh posted:https://twitter.com/hankschulman/status/1044372593644527616 The attitude that the Giants can't risk giving a rookie the opening day job at any position or any positional security whatsoever is probably worse for the team than their drafting abilities. They've developed some talent, it's just playing for someone else because they've gotten scared a rookie will go .200/.233/.320 through the first 3 months, so they trade/make room for for a known quantity to do it instead. See also: Various writers going "What if Steven Duggar starts the season as badly as Gorkys Hernandez did last year? The Giants can't take that risk, which is why Gorkys Hernandez is the starting center fielder." New Concept Hole fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Sep 25, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 01:21
|
|
|
Ammat The Ankh posted:Bobby Evans was a part of, but far from the sole reason for the Giants' recent struggles. If Giants are to get back on track, the first step is to massively overhaul their drafting and development. I would argue they also need to move the walls in. Not THAT wall, but if the Astros got rid of Tal’s Hill then the Giants can get rid of triples alley and not have to always drag LHH in kicking and screaming through team control.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 01:24
|
|
|
Don't worry, the humidor will bring in the hitters.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 01:31
|
|
|
NedCo back to SF pleases me greatly.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 02:08
|
|
|
Intruder posted:Remember when the Marlins had baseball's best outfield and traded it all away for peanuts? The saddest part is that on paper, the Marlins got their best return out of all the guys they dumped for Yelich. The problem is Brinson has been awful (and will basically have to keep getting ABs because there is no one else), and the other top prospects they received like Monte Harrison have not looked good.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 02:15
|
|
|
106. History is made. 
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 03:28
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/MLBStatoftheDay/status/1044409716703727616?s=19 The As somehow had an opening day payroll $20 million below the Marlins
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 03:32
|
|
|
It's impossible not to root for the As.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 04:27
|
|
|
Craptacular! posted:I would argue they also need to move the walls in. Not THAT wall, but if the Astros got rid of Tal’s Hill then the Giants can get rid of triples alley and not have to always drag LHH in kicking and screaming through team control. AT&T is one of the prettiest parks in the majors but I wish they'd make real bullpens.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 04:27
|
|
|
The Berzerker posted:It's impossible not to root for the As. Yes it is spend more money you fucks
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 04:50
|
|
|
ZenVulgarity posted:Yes it is spend more money you fucks Sure but also Let’s Go A’s
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 04:59
|
|
|
ZenVulgarity posted:Yes it is spend more money you fucks Yankees fan desperately trying to generate any sympathy for the Yankees. Sorry but the A's rule.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:00
|
|
|
Rand alPaul posted:AT&T is one of the prettiest parks in the majors but I wish they'd make real bullpens. A call-up destroyed his neck tripping on the mounds so so maybe they’ll realize that the space under the big screen has better uses than people eating crab sandwiches amongst the kale. I’m not super impressed that the A’s ownership has managed to pull off incredible margins into their pocket while also able to fend off fan complaints. I don’t hate them but to me being that far below CBT just looks greedy. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Sep 25, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:01
|
|
|
Craptacular! posted:A call-up destroyed his neck tripping on the mounds so so maybe they’ll realize that the space under the big screen has better uses than people eating crab sandwiches amongst the kale. I still haven't figured out why the Rays get hosed over on attendance every year despite being decent-to-good almost every year, while the As have a cavernous stadium where the dugouts flood with shitwater and yet people still clamor for them. I want to know what sort of weird fanbase/market sorcery does that. "Small" market baseball is weird.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:16
|
|
|
rickiep00h posted:I still haven't figured out why the Rays get hosed over on attendance every year despite being decent-to-good almost every year, while the As have a cavernous stadium where the dugouts flood with shitwater and yet people still clamor for them. I want to know what sort of weird fanbase/market sorcery does that. "Small" market baseball is weird. The A’s are like 28th in attendance this season, though? But really, A’s fans just know how to get a little drunk and have a bunch of fun. It’s honestly that simple. Catch a game in Oakland one day if you can. It’s a blast.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:20
|
|
|
Accident Underwater posted:https://twitter.com/MLBStatoftheDay/status/1044409716703727616?s=19
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 13:48 |
|
|
rickiep00h posted:I still haven't figured out why the Rays get hosed over on attendance every year despite being decent-to-good almost every year, while the As have a cavernous stadium where the dugouts flood with shitwater and yet people still clamor for them. I want to know what sort of weird fanbase/market sorcery does that. "Small" market baseball is weird. A’s games during regular season can sometimes be described as, “people who also like football do their parking lot tailgating at a baseball game while football is hibernating.” It’s something they’ve got in common with Brewers fans You can reach O.Coli reasonably conveniently on rapid transit, there is no reasonable way to get to the Trop from what I’ve heard.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2018 05:28
|
|