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Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
The UFC is both good and bad at marketing their fighters, I won't be taking any questions at this time.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Ad by Khad posted:

How many of these jabronis are any good? I've never heard of at least 10 of these people and I know at least two of the fighters I have heard of are poo poo

1. KTFO by a fat dad in less than three minutes. Otherwise holds the HW defense record at 3 successful defenses. Also got KTFO by Stefan Struve.

2. Has a bad back. Is really a cool guy, but his body really isn't up for the game anymore. 1/2 of one of the worst HW fights ever against Francis Ngannou (because he couldn't move due to bad back).

3. Blaydes is possibly the only "good" fighter up near the top. He's a hot young prospect, and his only loss is to Ngannou. He still has a pretty short career, though, so we have to wait and see if he's actually any good.

4. Destroyed everyone until he fought #1 who just wrestled him like a big brother than he looked at Derrick Lewis for 15 minutes instead of fighting.

5. Volkov might be good, but just three years ago he was dropping decisions to Cheik Kongo and Tony Johnson.

6. Used to be really good. Still can kill people, but also gets killed hilariously just as often.

7. Former champ but old school brazilian training plus years of absolute wars have left him a husk of his former self.

8. Russian grappledad. If he gets ahold of your neck you go to sleep. However, if you keep him off of you, you're fine.

9. I'm looking at his UFC career and it's a loss to your step dad Tim Johnson, beating two "who the fook is this guy" types before winning a decision over Arlovski. Then he lost a decision to Werdum and got KTFO by Lewis. Most recently had a win over Struve.

10. Mark Hunt is old and worn down but can still knock a motherfucker out. He is a turtle, though, and is defeated by just flipping him onto his back.

11. Tai Tuivasa is a pretty hot undefeated prospect. So far I've got nothing really negative to say about him except he hasn't really fought anyone.

12. Another guy that's been knocked out by your step dad and derrick lewis.

13. Arlovski somehow keeps hanging on despite not having a chin since 2000. Has lost 7 of 9 fights since 2016 and exists just so they can say "former UFC hw champ" before getting destroyed by one of the prospects earlier in the list.

14. Giant of a man who nearly has jon jones' reach even though he's seven foot tall. Incapable of using said reach and gets folded into two often.

15. Willis is another young prospect. Hasn't fought anyone at all. Going to fight Mark Hunt next. We still won't know if he's any good if he wrestles Hunt. Very likely to be a walk off KO for Hunt's retirement fight.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
that in 2018 Mark Hunt is a top ten fighter and Cain Velasquez was a collective hallcuination is one of the strangest stories in MMA

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
i think hunt is in the top 10 by sheer dint of being an active body, unlike cain, who at this point has a pristine oil painting of himself in the attic of AKA, while his own body is simply a container of cobwebs

also, looks like meltz is saying woodley vs till is estimated to have hit 130k buys.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Its a bummer what happened with our boy Brown Pride

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1045303943306326016

I really wanted to see Romero vs Alex.

And :lol: that Jones actually does fight by year end after it all.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

So they're going to strip DC of one of his belts before he even has the chance to defend it just to give another belt to Jones?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gotta admit, as lovely as the whole Jones situation is, the reason they did it is pretty obvious since in spite of all that I'm still pretty excited at the idea of seeing Jones vs. Gustafsson

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

If Jon is truly clean I think Gustafsson will spark him, I'm thinking Jones will look more like the version that fought OSP.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Mr. Nice! posted:

15. Willis is another young prospect. Hasn't fought anyone at all. Going to fight Mark Hunt next. We still won't know if he's any good if he wrestles Hunt. Very likely to be a walk off KO for Hunt's retirement fight.

I don’t think that Hunt is going to retire once his UFC contract is over, he’s gonna end up in some freakshow tournament in something like Road FC or in Bellator. An old guy kickboxer that used to be in the UFC is a prime Scott Coker signing.

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



The Dave posted:

If Jon is truly clean I think Gustafsson will spark him, I'm thinking Jones will look more like the version that fought OSP.

I’d love to see this happen but as history has shown, Teflon Jon is blessed by his Lord and Savior and is therefore immune to the consequences of his actions.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Dr. Abysmal posted:

I don’t think that Hunt is going to retire once his UFC contract is over, he’s gonna end up in some freakshow tournament in something like Road FC or in Bellator. An old guy kickboxer that used to be in the UFC is a prime Scott Coker signing.

I mean, yeah, but he probably should retire for his own wellbeing. Mark Hunt is going to die in the ring some day.

Digital Jedi posted:

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1045303943306326016

I really wanted to see Romero vs Alex.

And :lol: that Jones actually does fight by year end after it all.

So DC is chomping at the bit to get Bones at LHW again. I didn't see that happening.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

DC will lose, Jones will pop for something and the never ending cycle repeats

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Mr. Carlisle posted:

DC will lose and cry, Jones will pop for something and the never ending cycle repeats

Fixed that for you.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

True, but there have been quite a few fighters that have been knocked out and woke up emotional or were just emotional after a loss or win

Interviewing the guy after he was hosed up like that was sad and he basically became Jesse from breaking bad

Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Sep 27, 2018

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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DC would be retarded to fight Jones at any weight, especially Heavyweight. Why risk the gigantic money fight with Lesnar for a sub-million buy PPV with Jones, because you know drat well that fight is going to Jones if (when) he wins.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Auron posted:

DC would be retarded to fight Jones at any weight, especially Heavyweight. Why risk the gigantic money fight with Lesnar for a sub-million buy PPV with Jones, because you know drat well that fight is going to Jones if (when) he wins.

Because he can fight him at LHW and then Lesnar at HW. Or just lose to Jon at both weights

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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JaySB posted:

Because he can fight him at LHW and then Lesnar at HW. Or just lose to Jon at both weights

If Jones beats Cormier at any weight, I have a feeling they'd pull the Lesnar rug out from under him and give it to Jones. Cormier would be stuck rematching Stipe for the championship.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

I want to see Gus lay out Jones so loving bad ahhhhhhh

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Jerusalem posted:

Gotta admit, as lovely as the whole Jones situation is, the reason they did it is pretty obvious since in spite of all that I'm still pretty excited at the idea of seeing Jones vs. Gustafsson

Yeah I agree

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

Skip My Posts posted:

Its a bummer what happened with our boy Brown Pride

he could have been an all time great, the way he destroyed people early in his career was crazy. those guys were like nothing to him. even when kongo managed to hit him with a punch that could've killed a bear at the start of every round it didn't matter.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Kilometers Davis posted:

I want to see Gus lay out Jones so loving bad ahhhhhhh

Same with DC, honestly. Not that I wanna see JBJ pay for cheating in the ring, just that I want to see those guys get the win to define their careers.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
jones is going to keep roiding and win with his best tim sylvia impression in some of the worst fights imaginable, just my hunch

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

Mr. Nice! posted:

Fixed that for you.

some people show emotion and it's kinda lovely to knock them for that

oops i mean lol what a human being what kind of man would let water come out of his eyes

DaFrugalGamer
Aug 6, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
is Khabib gonna takr conor down and submit.him or will he get KOed teying to do it

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

DaFrugalGamer posted:

is Khabib gonna takr conor down and submit.him or will he get KOed teying to do it

Good question.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

DaFrugalGamer posted:

is Khabib gonna takr conor down and submit.him or will he get KOed teying to do it

Are you alright

Omnikin
May 29, 2007

Press 'E' for Medic
I believe DC will kill JBJ in the re-re-match

Omnikin
May 29, 2007

Press 'E' for Medic
Like, actually murder him

DaFrugalGamer
Aug 6, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
he wont jon jones is really good

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

Jon Jones is going to beat Gus for the interim LHW title which Dana will change to the undisputed title for some bullshit reason before popping for a cocktail of cocaine and Cold War-Era steroids then doing some more soul searching then a two-day stint in rehab

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
DC is dumb if he does anything but ride off into the sunset after a money fight with Brock.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Omnikin posted:

I believe DC will kill JBJ in the re-re-match

I don’t think so, Tim

DaFrugalGamer
Aug 6, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Carlisle posted:

Are you alright

yeah are you

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

The Automator posted:

some people show emotion and it's kinda lovely to knock them for that

oops i mean lol what a human being what kind of man would let water come out of his eyes

Mods?

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

you should buy plat if you're going to tattle

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

DaFrugalGamer posted:

yeah are you

I am now that I know you're ok and not stroking out

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

Lotta loud noises going on in here.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

This may not be a great place to ask, but I'll try anyway.

I'm collecting info on subs in the UFC, and categorizing them. Subs come in countless varieties, so I'm trying to have the smallest number of categories that is reasonable.

I'm wondering about triangle armbars. Some finishes are listed as triangle armbar on sherdog or wikipedia. Some subs are listed as armbar, when there was a triangle also applied, and vice versa.

I'd prefer to not have triangle armbar as a category because fewer is better, and there are other simultaneous subs that may need their own categories. But splitting them into one or the other is contentious.

Any suggestions? I'm now aware of anyone really keeping track of info like this.

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TheReverend
Jun 21, 2005

It's literally both though?

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish. It's both a choke and a joint lock.

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