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I'm tossing up between IP for the reaction, solus for that post where the vote seemed to be the opposite conclusion from the rest of the post and bif heh just kiddin
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Oct 2, 2018 23:01
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Also I'm gonna ##unvote as well since I agree that TMM looks better today. I think we should look towards people with fewer posts than me as well because ~my meta~ is to lurk a lot on day one and last I checked I wasn't even close to bottom poster (but that might partially be because of how signups worked) and the last game I was in scum won by basically letting town fight amongst themselves the whole time.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:03
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IllegallySober posted:I think I’m going to take a look at Hal and MMT next, since at the moment I’m not really reading anyone strongly for scum and I can’t recall anything specific either has posted so far. Will do that on my lunch break here shortly. Re-reading Hal he’s essentially a blank slate to me as far as any kind of strong opinions thus far. This is the only substantive post by MMT I can find: Murmur Twin posted:(phoneposting until further notice) I disagree with her opinion here re: BK, but at least she’s got an explanation for her thought process. And she did mention beforehand that early-week was tough for her and is catching up now, so we’ll see what that leads to. I’m not sure where else to go right now. Somebody want to sell me on a case that isn’t BK, for the moment?
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Oct 2, 2018 23:11
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SolusLunes posted:After re-reading this, I guess I want to look at it again. OK before I delve into other stuff I'm going to go ahead and ##vote SolusLunes because these are not the posts of someone engaged in trying to hunt scum. Like he's not making any effort to sell people on cases, his posts read like someone who is putting opinions out there because he knows he has to.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:17
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I'm honestly still feeling BK because what was scummy to me wasn't his confusion with Bif, but the fact that it looked like he'd decided she was scum and everything she did was scum, and that one thing doesn't change that for me.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:19
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Asiina posted:I'm honestly still feeling BK because what was scummy to me wasn't his confusion with Bif, but the fact that it looked like he'd decided she was scum and everything she did was scum, and that one thing doesn't change that for me. why would he hit the brakes out of freaking nowhere like that though, ok maybe he thought he was gonna get lunched if he kept at me, but that seems like a tough choice to make, to do a complete about-face when you do have some people arguing strongly in your corner.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:22
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IcePhoenix posted:Also I'm gonna ##unvote as well since I agree that TMM looks better today. Anyone but me defense?
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Oct 2, 2018 23:24
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IcePhoenix posted:o before e This reads like genuine frustration to me and makes me lean town on IP. Also my gut says that if he were scum he'dve vented this in his scumdoc instead of the thread. Also just to save time, my gut is fairly certain that Bif is town who was frustrated by BK tunneling on her.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:26
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Asiina posted:I'm honestly still feeling BK because what was scummy to me wasn't his confusion with Bif, but the fact that it looked like he'd decided she was scum and everything she did was scum, and that one thing doesn't change that for me. Haha there are people - and I'm not going to name names - who sometimes, as town, get overconfident in their early cases and develop tunnel vision where they start to see everything someone does as scummy.  I feel like that's what their argument reads as to me.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:29
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IllegallySober posted:I think the second attempt at the explanation comes off better than the first, for sure, and if anything I think the immediate attempt at clarification here after the first big quote-post is a point in Solus’ favor as opposed to against: I'm not sure I buy that IS has (a) read enough of the game to form opinions on Solus, BK, Bif, Hal, and myself... (b) ...without finding a single person suspicious enough to case. I'd be fine voting either IS or Solus today.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:38
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Murmur Twin posted:I'm not sure I buy that IS has Basically, IS'es posting reads like my posting when I'm scum, behind on a game, and have that scummy self-consciousness where everyone seems town and I can't think of any fake cases. Honestly I feel stronger about IS than I do about Solus, but I don't want to start pushing a new target close to deadline if people aren't around.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:42
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Murmur Twin posted:Basically, IS'es posting reads like my posting when I'm scum, behind on a game, and have that scummy self-consciousness where everyone seems town and I can't think of any fake cases. I agree w/r/t IS, those are some super-surfacey reads too
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Oct 2, 2018 23:43
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Murmur Twin posted:Basically, IS'es posting reads like my posting when I'm scum, behind on a game, and have that scummy self-consciousness where everyone seems town and I can't think of any fake cases. Agree with this. I was hoping IS would post today but these feel like someone going through the motions rather than actively scumhunting. I see the case on Solus but I'm not 100% sold on it. Gonna reread.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:48
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Ate dinner, walked the dog, I'm here for the rest of the night.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:50
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Ah since people are here I'm going to ##vote IS and be the change I want to see in the world. I'm watching tv but will be keeping an eye on the thread.
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Lookit that there spread Votecount for Day 1   BottleKnight (2): Bifauxnen, Murmur Twin, Asiina, SolusLunes, SolusLunes (2): King Burgundy, BottleKnight, Murmur Twin, IcePhoenix (2): Max, Bifauxnen Bifauxnen (1): Bifauxnen, IllegallySober (1): Murmur Twin TMMadman (1): Murmur Twin, Asiina, IcePhoenix, Hal Incandenza, hambeet (0): SolusLunes, Mr. Humalong (0): Max, King Burgundy (0): TMMadman, Max (0): Asiina, Murmur Twin (0): Bifauxnen, Not Voting (7): Asphyxious, hambeet, IcePhoenix, IllegallySober, Mr. Humalong, sniper4625, Social Studies 3rd Period  With 16 people still alive, it takes 9 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 02nd, 2018 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 3 hours, 4 minutes.  The wagon train is moving at a steady pace. Today's execution method is Standard Majority.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:56
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And you haven't voted yet.
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Oct 2, 2018 23:59
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Where you at on your scum reads right now TMM?
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Oct 3, 2018 00:00
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Murmur Twin posted:I'm not sure I buy that IS has Yeah this is actually a pretty good point.
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Oct 3, 2018 00:01
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Murmur Twin posted:OK before I delve into other stuff I'm going to go ahead and ##vote SolusLunes because these are not the posts of someone engaged in trying to hunt scum. Like he's not making any effort to sell people on cases, his posts read like someone who is putting opinions out there because he knows he has to.  Asiina posted:I'm honestly still feeling BK because what was scummy to me wasn't his confusion with Bif, but the fact that it looked like he'd decided she was scum and everything she did was scum, and that one thing doesn't change that for me. I’m not going to case/vote for someone who I do not think is scum, Asiina.
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Oct 3, 2018 00:01
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TMMadman posted:And you haven't voted yet. That is correct, yes.
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I'm gonna stick with Icephoenix for now since I don't think he's really come back with a case that warrants not voting him, aside from the plea to vote out someone with less posts than him. I'd want some casework now that the day has gone on. Fine with IS if I have to. Not feeling Solus after he clarified his stance.
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Max posted:I'm gonna stick with Icephoenix for now since I don't think he's really come back with a case that warrants not voting him, aside from the plea to vote out someone with less posts than him. I'd want some casework now that the day has gone on. Hmm stilk sorta suss on solus, but IS is edging out on that lead. IPs last post piqued my interest because it's a lurker redirect and aside from the bk / bif thing (where he basically said meh) I don't believe he has commented on anything else. I am also curious on the way people came down on either side in bif or bks argument, it seemed divisive, not clear cut either way.
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Actually to add to the last bit, it's interesting to me see who didn't get involved in the Bif /bk thing. Phone posting though so I can't deep dive that atm
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Oct 3, 2018 00:14
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hambeet posted:Hmm stilk sorta suss on solus, but IS is edging out on that lead. Ugh to clarify he did talk about TMM but spent as much energy on himself. Anyway
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Oct 3, 2018 00:17
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hambeet posted:##vote IllegallySober I’ve just reread illegallysober and I’m not seeing it, from peoples description I was expecting a bit of Dick Bastardly “clearly not reading the thread properly thought salad” kinda stuff but it wasn’t really there. The only thing that looks even kinda bad is asking for other cases, which just left me feeling kinda ehh. My take is that IP’s reaction was still completely out of nowhere so I’m calling confected outrage. ##vote Icephoenix
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Oct 3, 2018 00:34
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Bifauxnen posted:why would he hit the brakes out of freaking nowhere like that though, ok maybe he thought he was gonna get lunched if he kept at me, but that seems like a tough choice to make, to do a complete about-face when you do have some people arguing strongly in your corner. I've done literally exactly this as scum. Realize that I'm on the losing side of an argument and go "oh whoops I misunderstood!" and just totally abandoned my argument. I got a lot of town cred for it too  Let me check out IS though.
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hambeet posted:Hmmmm Like I interpreted his posts to mean him “catching up” was he was literally rereading a handful of people then just kinda gave up, which is crappy play. But when I reread his posts I didn’t get pinged at all which gave me pause. As I said the worst part was him being like “well what are the cases that aren’t bk?” like bk is a sure vote, when he’s said he thinks bk is town.
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King Burgundy posted:Where you at on your scum reads right now TMM? It's not any of the usual suspects that people are throwing out right now. I am quite concerned that Max is scum and I'm going to die on N1. He seems to hold no real opinions and instead is present in the thread looking to get other people to comment. Now obviously that can go either way, but I'm still worried. I still think bif is scum. I'm confused about the unvoting, but I still think she has been misrepresenting herself. I don't really have any solid town reads, although I am kind of leaning town on BK. Neutral on the newish people sniper/Solus. Giving you the benefit of the doubt for the moment. I'm also slightly concerned about hambeet. I'm not sure where he stands on anything.
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Yeah, I look at IS and it's not the strongest case. He looks like he's trying, even if his reads are basically a bunch of town ones. I'm not sure where MMT got the idea that he hasn't read that much of the game. It makes me hmmm for her to describe it that way. Not enough to vote today, but definitely a little suspicious. I think if BK isn't happening, then I'd rather vote for ##vote IcePhoenix I believe that he's frustrated, but also he's basically provided nothing since then, and his early overreaction does still seem scummy. I still think beek is scummy, and I wouldn't give him that much credit for his changing his mind when he was the vote leader as we come up on deadline.
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Also, I would likely vote IS to avoid a no lynch, but I'm also slightly wary that this might be a scum push to a lurker on D1. Not that I'm really opposed to that since I can usually figure out the votes later, but just something to keep in mind.
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One last thing, I am also concerned about Asiina. She feels off to me in this game. I feel like she doesn't have a town wincon. Also, I'm not sure if I believe that both Asiina and Bif are scum together.
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Oct 3, 2018 00:57
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TMMadman posted:It's not any of the usual suspects that people are throwing out right now. Prove it.
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Oct 3, 2018 00:59
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TMMadman posted:It's not any of the usual suspects that people are throwing out right now. Looking forward to getting thoroughly loving annihilated by the Max/Bif/Beet/Asiina scum team!
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Asiina posted:Yeah, I look at IS and it's not the strongest case. He looks like he's trying, even if his reads are basically a bunch of town ones. What? That's scum 101, just going through the motions to appear you're doing ~something~
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Asphyxious posted:I’ve just reread illegallysober and I’m not seeing it, from peoples description I was expecting a bit of Dick Bastardly “clearly not reading the thread properly thought salad” kinda stuff but it wasn’t really there. The only thing that looks even kinda bad is asking for other cases, which just left me feeling kinda ehh. Asiina posted:Yeah, I look at IS and it's not the strongest case. He looks like he's trying, even if his reads are basically a bunch of town ones. Someone quote me his strongest case / scum read. I don't see anyone can write off "even if his alignment calls are basically a bunch of town reads" as no big deal.
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TMMadman posted:One last thing, I am also concerned about Asiina. She feels off to me in this game. Is there a reason you phrased it as 'doesn't have a town wincon' instead of 'is scum'?
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