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Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


esperterra posted:

S+ tier
Murder House
Asylum

S Tier
Roanoke
Cult

A Tier
Hotel

BALENCIAGA Tier
Coven

Christ this deadass put me to sleep Tier
Freak Show

e: ^^ Lange is set to return as Constance this year

I miss Lily Rabe as a regular more, personally. But I do miss Lange. Paulson has been picking up the slack well imho, tho.

e2: also Coven's low ranking is not indicative at all of my enjoyment of that season but rather how much of a hot loving mess the writing was

the first three seasons are the only ones i go out of my way to rewatch lmbo, tho I prob will with Cult too

Agree with literally 100% of this post.

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ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Any streaming sites I can watch season 4?

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

ICHIBAHN posted:

Any streaming sites I can watch season 4?

Which country are you in/do you have access to a VPN service?

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Scotland

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



:siren:UNHHHH RETURNS WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 17:siren:

https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/29/trixie-mattel-katya-unhhhh-new-episodes/

(They debut on Wow Presents Plus, YouTube a week later, and dammit I may have to subscribe.)

Also mazel to Latrice on her wedding day.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

Pinwiz11 posted:

:siren:UNHHHH RETURNS WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 17:siren:

https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/29/trixie-mattel-katya-unhhhh-new-episodes/

(They debut on Wow Presents Plus, YouTube a week later, and dammit I may have to subscribe.)

Also mazel to Latrice on her wedding day.

Does this mean the vice show is officially dead?

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

esperterra posted:

S+ tier
Murder House
Asylum

S Tier
Roanoke
Cult

A Tier
Hotel

BALENCIAGA Tier
Coven

Christ this deadass put me to sleep Tier
Freak Show

e: ^^ Lange is set to return as Constance this year

I miss Lily Rabe as a regular more, personally. But I do miss Lange. Paulson has been picking up the slack well imho, tho.

e2: also Coven's low ranking is not indicative at all of my enjoyment of that season but rather how much of a hot loving mess the writing was

the first three seasons are the only ones i go out of my way to rewatch lmbo, tho I prob will with Cult too

Yeah this is the legit AHS rundown. Ryan Murphy shows tend to start strong and then run off with way too many dumb boring sideplots. If I ever met him I would just yell LESS CAN BE MORE FOCUS ON YOUR MAIN CHARACTERS but alas I no longer live in Los Angeles.

(S1) Murder House and (S2) Asylum: good TV, they still suffer from adding in way too many side plots but are grim, compelling, and focused enough to be fun horror TV.

Hotel (S5), Roanoake (S6), and Cult (S7) are decent. I'm inclined to put the current season, Apocalypse (S8) here because I feel it's rather meh so far, other than Michael's actor being great.

Coven (S3) makes absolutely no sense in terms of plot but goes over the top with camp and dumb plot twists. Very fun, very stupid.

Freak Show (S4) is okay for the first few episodes where Twisty is involved but then becomes extremely boring. Easily the worst season of AHS.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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The stuff with Dandy in Freak Show is really good, too, but they get rid of Frances Conroy way too early and it kind of goes nowhere for a while.

e: man finn wittrock was such a good addition to ahs

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Did Katya or Trixie ever really respond to accusations of homophobia (use of "Dyke")?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




ICHIBAHN posted:

Did Katya or Trixie ever really respond to accusations of homophobia (use of "Dyke")?

Trixie just doubled down I think lmao. I haven't heard of any actual reactions to people complaining, probably because for every lesbian who rightfully says they're not ok with it there's 10 twelve year olds screaming they're gay and it's okay, please dyke mom gently caress me with a rake

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

WOW has a chart with availability and it looks like the UK is out in the cold for now :/

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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Ichibahn I may or may not have all of S4 and Untucked on a google drive from when a buddy was finally watching the series and couldn't get access to that season, if that's a route you want to go. I think only in SD but that's how most people first viewed it so nbd lmao.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

Pinwiz11 posted:

:siren:UNHHHH RETURNS WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 17:siren:

https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/29/trixie-mattel-katya-unhhhh-new-episodes/

(They debut on Wow Presents Plus, YouTube a week later, and dammit I may have to subscribe.)

Also mazel to Latrice on her wedding day.

“I had a lizard that I burnt.” Im dead. So excited for this to come back.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Esperterra that would be awesome. Already seen every episode but we're going to see needles and Alaska this month so I'd like to rewatch. Thanks

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer
since we all luv AHS so much im a just dump my take on this episode here cuz lol at wandering into another tviv thread

this episode really downgraded this season in my eyes. spoilers for today's episode of AHS apocalypse: i adore coven and all its characters but i detest a show that attempts to generate an air of mystery simply by omitting backstory known to the important characters. nothing satan boy does is particularly mysterious in light of this episode and since everyone who isn't a loving witch or wizard is dead we also know that the only plot-critical characters all knew this backstory. the opening leg of the show is basically a red herring in light of this.

also it's never OK to have an entire episode of a TV show just be flashbacks (and flashbacks inside of flashbacks even!). If your episode doesn't advance the plot or characters in a meaningful way, it doesn't need to exist. All of this could have been interwoven into earlier episodes to greater effect instead of going for a dumb aha moment.


and yall are still wrong about asylum. it has too many things happening, it is by far the highest level of gore porn this show ever did (which i'm never a fan of), and it never really ties back together around a central theme the way the best seasons all do. by the end of asylum we've had potential aliens involved, satan possessing a nurse, a serial killer whos the rapeson of another serial killer, a nazi mad scientist fleshcrafter, and a hell of a lot of people being tormented to no end. there never really seems to be a point any of this is getting at whereas:

murder house: the way selfish actions can destroy a family, culminating in the revelation of what has happened with the daughter while dad is too wrapped up in his own poo poo to realize

coven: ok you got me here thematically it's a mess but i love witches ok

hotel: learning to accept your fate and make the most of it

freakshow: an examination of the contrast between those who are humble and accept a humble life vs those who must always acquire more in an ultimately unfinishable pursuit of happiness

cult was similarly weak like asylum in my opinion because it again didn't have a strong theme holding it together. it was mostly just a lot of superficial "politics sure has gone crazy" with a bunch of surprise betrayals thrown in. this season could still redeem itself but this episode was real weak. a couple decent scenes though.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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alternate take:

it was rad and is just becoming what i wanted out of the hot mess that was coven (which i love, it's my most rewatched season, but lbr it's real bad)

i mean once they said it was a crossover season and tate's antichrist child would be in it i was expecting steaming garbage, but all four episodes have been rly fun and have followed a single storyline so far despite using the first 3 eps as a bit of a gotcha which tbh i think they landed.

like as far as ahs goes this season has been really tight and hasn't gone on any weird tangents or stuff that goes nowhere for no reason

that said it is still pure schlock. as it should be b/c every season is

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!
There's nothing even remotely scary about this season so far, but I want to know:

Why is Ruth Fisher alive again? I'm guessing the Supreme Diana Ross or whatever revived her not long after she was burned at the stake a second time, and she's come to terms with what she's done. But after they showed flashbacks for how Gabourey (who has lost weight and looks great!!), and Julia's niece were revived, I don't know why we don't know about Ruth.

Also, Asylum deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



I said this over in TVIV but I want a 6 episode bitchy warlock school miniseries so bad now. It can be a web show, I don't care. :allears:

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Well, we’ll see how spooky Sabrina shapes up

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Speaking of Ryan Murphy stuff we can’t be bothered to discuss anywhere else in tviv, Feud is really good and Jessica Lange is a loving legend

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Speaking of Ryan Murphy stuff we can’t be bothered to discuss anywhere else in tviv, Feud is really good and Jessica Lange is a loving legend

Feud was amazing and I'm lowkey sad but also lowkey relieved they dropped Charles vs Diana for season 2. I feel like trying to camp up anything to do with Di could go badly still in tyool 2018, hell I don't know how I'd personally feel about it myself! But it could have had so much potential, too.

Wonder who they'll go with instead.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
As a member of the commonwealth who didn’t know anything about season 2 let me say I spat out my goddamned biscuit at that idea

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

As a member of the commonwealth who didn’t know anything about season 2 let me say I spat out my goddamned biscuit at that idea

Yeah that was p much my reaction as a commonwealther, too lmao. Then hints of 'wait I kind of want to see what campy nonsense Murphy could pull out for Di' slash 'what if he got some good writers and took it super seriously ala Crime Story s1 and s2'.

It's for the best they dropped the idea tho.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I’d still watch it and it might even be good but I’m just old enough for that to hit a weird spot

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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Yeah I remember very, very distinctly the night Di passed and I was loving 8 years old. I remember the whole day like it was yesterday. The news cycle, my family's reaction, how late we all stayed up waiting for more information and poo poo.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I was on my way to baseball practice when it broke and my dad was the coach and didn’t care so I just got to stand around and contemplate the nature of fame and death and beauty while taking pop flies

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Really curious to see how The Crown will handle it, when it gets there. I think?? the plan is still to end the show where Di died (because doing anything past it would be him basically just remaking The Queen) but I'm curious about the lead up. Who they'll cast as Di, how they'll handle her as a character in general as well as her relationships to the rest of the family and poo poo.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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also since this thread's off season seems to morph into just a place gay goons talk about poo poo and i'm like 8 pages behind on the thread it's actually relevant to, autodrag bb i'm rly pleased you seemed to have dug or at least not hated the back half of Altered Carbon b/c that's where a lot of people take issue with it, I guess mostly book readers? idk, but that poo poo was all my favourite and what did you think of Dichen Lachman in general gently caress i wish she was in more big stuff

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

oh cool, thought some RPDR news came out when I saw a glut of new posts but this is now a dumping ground for AHS hot takes.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



We are getting both the Alyssa show and A Star is Born tomorrow, plus the return of Unhhhh, so we'll have drag content soon.

And when does Dragula start?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I'm debating whether to go see A Star is Born tonight, or go next week when I have more cash and do it at the theatre with a bar at the concession.

e: prob gna do both tbh

e2: also ichibahn do you have an e-mail or a throwaway e-mail or smth so I can send you a drive or dropbox link to s4 or somethin, i prob shouldn't post files in the thread proper tbh lol

esperterra fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 4, 2018

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

Pinwiz11 posted:

And when does Dragula start?
Halloween!

Unrelated: I think about the phrase "A worm stole my credit card ONCE!" a lot.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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esperterra posted:

also since this thread's off season seems to morph into just a place gay goons talk about poo poo and i'm like 8 pages behind on the thread it's actually relevant to, autodrag bb i'm rly pleased you seemed to have dug or at least not hated the back half of Altered Carbon b/c that's where a lot of people take issue with it, I guess mostly book readers? idk, but that poo poo was all my favourite and what did you think of Dichen Lachman in general gently caress i wish she was in more big stuff

Ya it was entertaining, it was just very difficult to watch because it was so troubling. Who's dichen lacman?

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

esperterra posted:

also since this thread's off season seems to morph into just a place gay goons talk about poo poo and i'm like 8 pages behind on the thread it's actually relevant to, autodrag bb i'm rly pleased you seemed to have dug or at least not hated the back half of Altered Carbon b/c that's where a lot of people take issue with it, I guess mostly book readers? idk, but that poo poo was all my favourite and what did you think of Dichen Lachman in general gently caress i wish she was in more big stuff

Yeah, this seems to be the sane gay thread on somethingawful. I haven't been there in a while, but the old one in Ask/Tell that I used to post in back when I was a closeted gay baby was kind of really toxic.

Also, I couldn't get through Altered Carbon even though it's right up my alley. I think I got 4 episodes in?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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jit bull transpile posted:

Ya it was entertaining, it was just very difficult to watch because it was so troubling. Who's dichen lacman?

sad .......

She played the sister lol

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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esperterra posted:

sad .......

She played the sister lol

U thirsty for Asian chicks

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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jit bull transpile posted:

U thirsty for Asian chicks

The accent helps. Also I'm thirsty for talent tis a sickness

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

At Werk The World right now with my partner. Jinkx is out of drag and 3 seats away; when I said “they won season 6!” he shrugged, but as soon as I said “uh... they voiced Emerald in Steven Universe” he almost pooped.

This show is sick as hell and if you get the chance, please see it. Asia is a killer host, Kameron is exceptional, Violet’s set and burlesque made my partner declare that he no longer recognizes gender when it comes to sexuality, and we’re only at intermission. Aquaria, Valentina and Detox are still up to do their sets.

Hug in a Can
Aug 1, 2010

NICE FLAMINGO
kind heart
fierce mind
brave spirit

:h: be good and try hard! :h:

I found Violet's set in Chicago similarly transformational. They're all splendid performers, but wowwww, my understanding of myself shifted as she worked that stage. :swoon: (Not even my sexuality! Just epiphanies about how I view the world! She is that good!)

Also, if you don't make it to Werk the World, seeing a good local show can also be moving, just with a lower budget. :) Yay drag!!

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ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747

esperterra posted:

I'm debating whether to go see A Star is Born tonight, or go next week when I have more cash and do it at the theatre with a bar at the concession.

e: prob gna do both tbh

e2: also ichibahn do you have an e-mail or a throwaway e-mail or smth so I can send you a drive or dropbox link to s4 or somethin, i prob shouldn't post files in the thread proper tbh lol

thanks. I'll edit and delete in a sec

ICHIBAHN fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Oct 8, 2018

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