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Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

lancemantis posted:

it's socially acceptable gambling

well its not socially acceptable in my house. i just wanted to point out the exeptional bad idea of investing life savings in a highly volatile stock with a stoned CEO at the wheel

E. Cat that didnt invest in $TSLA

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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

I convinced my dad to invest $400 in apple when I was 12

now I have $10,000

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



My great grandfather left me like $50 of GM class E stock when he died around 1990. It turned into around $15k of raytheon and directv through A&M and splits and poo poo until I sold it all a few years ago

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Luigi Thirty posted:

I convinced my dad to invest $400 in apple when I was 12

now I have $10,000

I convinced my father to look into purchasing foreclosure properties and reselling them to their foreclosed owners at a profit but with fairer terms than the bank gave them

I'm gonna inherit a few million

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
my money works at nintendo

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

FAUXTON posted:

I convinced my father to look into purchasing foreclosure properties and reselling them to their foreclosed owners at a profit but with fairer terms than the bank gave them

I'm gonna inherit a few million

ah, i see you're part of the problem

mystes
May 31, 2006

redleader posted:

ah, i see you're part of the problem
But you see the terms were better than the bank so he's really a "socialist" like musk!

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
elons tweeting again somebody go wake up teslas lawyer

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007

poty posted:

elons tweeting again somebody go wake up teslas lawyer

no don't

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1047997866474594304

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1047998560782827520

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
stupid elon.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1047943670350020608

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
the court hasn't even ordered the settlement yet ...

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

Combat Theory posted:

from the same series



tbh project orion doesn’t quite belong in that list, it was a serious (if utterly insane, in that special height of the cold war way) proposal

there was probably never anything to it but napkin math, but it would have been pro quality napkin math, and the drawing doesn’t attempt to pretend the details are already worked out.

it’s probably the only known high acceleration drive system suitable for launching a large payload on an interstellar mission that doesn’t require hand waving massive leaps forward in several technologies. you have to not care about all the environmental destruction caused by launching it even once, or the... uh... international treaty concerns caused by same, but there’s no intrinsic reason it can’t work afaik

mystes
May 31, 2006

Gazpacho posted:

the court hasn't even ordered the settlement yet ...
The SEC and Tesla have to make a joint statement to the court. I suspect this will not happen now and the settlement will get thrown out.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

lol 420

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



According to Neil Stephenson, Project Orion makes you jump through dimensions. Makes u think

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
short sellers are the designated drivers of the investment world

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BobHoward posted:

tbh project orion doesn’t quite belong in that list, it was a serious (if utterly insane, in that special height of the cold war way) proposal

there was probably never anything to it but napkin math, but it would have been pro quality napkin math, and the drawing doesn’t attempt to pretend the details are already worked out.

it’s probably the only known high acceleration drive system suitable for launching a large payload on an interstellar mission that doesn’t require hand waving massive leaps forward in several technologies. you have to not care about all the environmental destruction caused by launching it even once, or the... uh... international treaty concerns caused by same, but there’s no intrinsic reason it can’t work afaik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQCrPNEsQaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Sv5y6iHUM

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice
i liked reading Footfall but haven’t read it for a decade or two. i hope it and its author aren’t lovely like most media i enjoyed when I was young

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
its authors are/were absolutely awful, almost in the extreme.

larry niven is probably the slightly less awful of the two, and he told GWB to spread rumours about organ harvesting in hospitals to latino communities to cut down on emergency room visits by minorities.

the politics in the book are also poo poo, but it's a fun book

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Oct 5, 2018

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
jerry pournelle, the other author, is dead now.

but in life he was a caricature of the rich white conservative, he believed in racial iq, and was the hardest core cold-warrior this side of mccarthy

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice
"remake of thing you liked as a child but the intended audience is modern children, not you" is pablum, "revisiting thing you liked as a child and learning it had terrible messages and/or authors" sucks

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

infernal machines posted:

jerry pournelle, the other author, is dead now.

but in life he was a caricature of the rich white conservative, he believed in racial iq, and was the hardest core cold-warrior this side of mccarthy

more importantly he had bad computer opinions and predictions in his computer magazine columns

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

fishmech posted:

more importantly he had bad computer opinions and predictions in his computer magazine columns

he managed to get k-lined from loving arpanet for being such a shitheel


creationist believer posted:

"remake of thing you liked as a child but the intended audience is modern children, not you" is pablum, "revisiting thing you liked as a child and learning it had terrible messages and/or authors" sucks

in fairness, i've read just about everything larry niven has ever published and i own a bunch of his collaborations with jerry pournelle too (thrift store pulp paperbacks, ofc). i loved his stuff as a teen, but yeah, it's pretty rough

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

fishmech posted:

more importantly he had bad computer opinions and predictions in his computer magazine columns

quote:

When we finally got home from the monthly Rambling Writers Conference
(this time in Djemaa-el-Fna), we found Fractal Manor's main hall
shoulder deep in brand-new state-of-the-art totally free computer
hardware and software for me to check out. Drat. I'll never get
around to most of it, of course, and probably will end up dumpstering
90% or more. What I really need to properly handle all of the
wonderful things companies send me absolutely free to review and enjoy
with no obligation whatsoever on my part, is a trash compactor.

I thought I'd start by reconfiguring my main computer, the Hyena
986SXDXMCMXCIV. Right now the sectors on the hard disk run clockwise,
but I heard a rumor that you can squeeze 0.2% more throughput by
running them counterclockwise. It's worth the effort. Recommended.

I slid the shrink-wrap off version 7.126 of DiskMember Gold (I know,
you thought I'd never upgrade from version 4.79, especially after all
my bad-mouthing of versions 5.33 and 6.02, but what can I say? Only a
Corinthian drinks kevis in a Veronese cantola.) and fired it up. No
joy. I reread the documentation to no avail, then scanned the whole
manual in, OCRed it, spell- checked the file and uploaded it to BIX
with a question mark appended.

While I waited for a response, I tried the software out on the
TriskaDeck 1313. This is the machine Bill Gibson uses when we
collaborate. It loaded fine and ran fine, but it seems to have
automatically moved every hard disk sector to a random location and
erased all the File Allocation Tables. Luckily I had backed up the
entire hard disk to a CD-ROM with the new BitByter 7000 CD-ROM
Mastering Deck (only $40,000 and worth every penny. Recommended.) so
in only 6 more hours I was back where I started.

While the disk was humming, I checked BIX with the Niebelungen Valkyrie
we keep in a corner for when Sandy Solzhenitsyn is here writing. No
answers yet.

On the chance that he might have some insight, I buzzed Bill Gates. He
mumbled something about it probably being a hardware problem before
excusing himself. That seemed plausible.

I called Jan Toady, president of Hyena, who indicated that a helicopter
of ground-assault technical assistants was hovering near Fractal Manor
24 hours a day and that all I had to do was give the word and they'd
parachute in. (Based on my own experience, I think Hyena offers the
best service in the business, and not just because I mention their
products every month in my column which millions of avid computer
buyers read either. I bet you'd get the same service I do. Recommended.)
I chuckled and said I'd try to puzzle it out a little more myself. He
said okay and then talked me into accepting a free laptop with
holographic display and telepathic mouse. A nice guy.

I also got Mike Spindler, Lou Gerstner and Ross Perot on a conference
call, but except for a few offers on tractor trailers full of new
equipment they couldn't help me.

My wife Svetlana (whose reading program can teach anyone with a $3000
computer how to read, and which is now available for PC-compatibles,
Apples, Macintoshes and the Cray XMP for only $49.95 plus shipping and
sales tax where applicable, have your MasterCard or VISA card ready and
call 1-800-555-1212, operators standing by 24 hours a day) stuck her
head in to say Hi.

That gave me the idea to try calling my sons for help. Number one son
Bud is now Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but when I called him
he was busy in the War Room with the Secretary of Defense and some darn
nerve gas missile crisis. It's always something with those civilians.
Second son Robbie was in the middle of performing emergency brain
surgery on the President, but promised to get back to me when he had a
breather. Chip was arguing a landmark civil rights case before the
Supreme Court when he answered my beeper message, but he seemed to
think it was hardware. That would confirm Bill Gates's idea, if you'll
recall. It could be true. On the other hand, it could be false. On
the gripping hand, it could be some combination of hardware and
non-hardware. A tough call, any way you looked at it.

I must have caught youngest son Ernie in an aerobics class in his
college dorm room, because he seemed to be having trouble breathing
when I called, and I could hear a husky female voice in the background
saying, "Don't stop." He only said, "Check the plug, Dad" and hung up.
His comment started me thinking.

The Hyena has this long black wire sticking out the back that
terminates in a plug-like connector. The plug has two parallel flat
metal prongs, and a third round prong about half an inch below the
midpoint of a line segment joining the two flat metal prongs, if you
follow me. A little searching behind the desk where Jack Updike likes
to work when he visits revealed an outlet in the wall with a corresponding
arrangement of holes. It seemed too good to be true. I tried
inserting the plug in the outlet. No joy. A quick call to Steve
Hawking suggested that it was a space symmetry problem, and I rotated
the plug 180 degrees and tried again. It slid home perfectly.

Well, I'm about out of room here now. Next month I hope to get to this
big red switch located on the side of the Hyena. Close study of the
manuals suggests that it is somehow related to the functioning of the
plug in the outlet. I'll have the whole story for you in the next
column, along with a report on the Jet- Setting Pen-Wielders Seminar in
Montevideo.

This month's favorite game is still Checkers. There is something both
deceptively simple and enticingly complex about this game that I have
yet to master. Highly recommended.

The book of the month is Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, on
CD-ROM with clips from Hercules Meets Godzilla. It's like being there.

Continent of the month is Australia. Give it a look.

Copyright (C) 1993, 1994 by Edmund X. DeJesus and Computer FunHouse.
All rights reserved. Contains no user-serviceable parts.

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

that's a word i haven't seen or thought of in a long rear end time


was asimov ok? everything i remember about him makes me think he'd still be ok.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
other than just being a product of his time and also not really writing characters, per se, i don't remember anything bad about him.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

creationist believer posted:

that's a word i haven't seen or thought of in a long rear end time

was asimov ok? everything i remember about him makes me think he'd still be ok.
asimov wrote worlds that were intensely patriarchal (like the midcentury world he wrote them in) and this has become a mark on his reputation apparently

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

creationist believer posted:

that's a word i haven't seen or thought of in a long rear end time


was asimov ok? everything i remember about him makes me think he'd still be ok.

hes one of the best. the gods themselves is absolutely fantastic

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
i mean asimov was a total "i can grope any woman i see in public if i want" guy which was totally sexual assault some fo the time and that's just something we have to deal with :shrug:

aside from that, usually much better politically etc than most of the authors and public of the time

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Gazpacho posted:

asimov wrote worlds that were intensely patriarchal (like the midcentury world he wrote them in) and this has become a mark on his reputation apparently

it’s really weird reading the foundation novels today

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

redleader posted:

ah, i see you're part of the problem

I work for a bank too :devil:

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



BobHoward posted:

tbh project orion doesn’t quite belong in that list, it was a serious (if utterly insane, in that special height of the cold war way) proposal

there was probably never anything to it but napkin math, but it would have been pro quality napkin math, and the drawing doesn’t attempt to pretend the details are already worked out.

it’s probably the only known high acceleration drive system suitable for launching a large payload on an interstellar mission that doesn’t require hand waving massive leaps forward in several technologies. you have to not care about all the environmental destruction caused by launching it even once, or the... uh... international treaty concerns caused by same, but there’s no intrinsic reason it can’t work afaik

I don't think it was intended to be launched from a planet

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

creationist believer posted:

that's a word i haven't seen or thought of in a long rear end time


was asimov ok? everything i remember about him makes me think he'd still be ok.

asimov had some serious sexism issues irl. probably in his writing too but I haven’t read him since teenage years when i was blind to that sort of thing


holy moly i didn’t know they actually did some conventional fuel tests

infernal machines posted:

its authors are/were absolutely awful, almost in the extreme.

larry niven is probably the slightly less awful of the two, and he told GWB to spread rumours about organ harvesting in hospitals to latino communities to cut down on emergency room visits by minorities.

larry niven was an idle rich inheritor of oil money who didn’t actually have to write stories to make a living so it is perhaps not surprising that he gravitated to conservatism

pournelle was a neocon, including the stereotypical early communist phase. dude was close personal friends with newt gingrich

one of the things I’ve had to rewire in my brain due to too much niven/pournelle in my youth is instinctive hatred of former senator william proxmire, who in my adult opinion was probably an all right dude if he pissed off n&p that much

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BobHoward posted:

larry niven was an idle rich inheritor of oil money who didn’t actually have to write stories to make a living

it's amusing how frequently his self-insert characters also share this trait

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


How was Pratchett? Not necessarily sci-fi but definitely big with nerds.

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1047968979841503232

Hmm, back-of-napkin revenue figures say nothing about profitability amirite

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
yes, the ceo of the company definitely needs to use someone else's guesstimate to say how good his company's sales are. that's definitely not a red flag

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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


prisoner of waffles posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1047968979841503232

Hmm, back-of-napkin revenue figures say nothing about profitability amirite

i was just thinking, i wonder if that's even sales or "sales" (preorders assembled and sitting in a loving desert parking lot because tesla is a fart)

(edit) actual question, if there's any truth to my parenthetical like I assume there is, would that actually be provable by/to us lowly humans, or is that kind of thing sufficient camouflage without something like a lawsuit?

Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 5, 2018

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