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Hellraiser as a franchise can easily be described thus. 1 is pretty good, 2 is where it tumbles off the cliff (but it's still okay because it's got such a height to fall from), 3 is where it hits the ground, and 4 is where the corpse begins digging deeper underground and never stops.
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There's no such thing as a good Hellraiser movie.
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Oct 6, 2018 19:55
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The first one is a bona fide masterpiece. I kinda like the one that is just Jacob's Ladder but with two references to the puzzle box thrown in. But it's definitely a Hellraiser in name only. I should probably watch the space one with Adam Scott this spooktober
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Oct 6, 2018 19:55
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The Hellraiser movie Andrew and Steve keep referring to about Lance Henriksen's video game is a fantastic good-bad movie.
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Oct 6, 2018 19:56
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Big Bob Pataki posted:The Hellraiser movie Andrew and Steve keep referring to about Lance Henriksen's video game is a fantastic good-bad movie. That one is also one of the most blatant "this was originally another movie" scripts because it's basically a straight up slasher but pinhead shows up sometimes. I was under the impression that someone wrote a script about VIDEO GAME MURDERS due to the explosion of MMOS in the early 2000s but then no one wanted it so they made it Hellraiser. Elderbean fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Oct 6, 2018 20:02
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Lance Henriksen shooting all of his scenes wearing the same clothes he wore on the plane ride over is actually cool as hell.
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Oct 6, 2018 20:03
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The first two Hellraisers are legit masterpieces (I actually like 2 more than 1). 3 is really bad and dumb, but also massively entertaining because it gives Doug Bradley so much scenery to chew. Everything past that is on a spectrum from completely wretched to kinda okayish.
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Oct 6, 2018 20:33
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The atmosphere and setting on Hellraiser 1 made the movie for me. That house was so beautiful, so it was especially tragic when the killings happened inside of it.
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Oct 6, 2018 20:36
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Elderbean posted:That one is also one of the most blatant "this was originally another movie" scripts because it's basically a straight up slasher but pinhead shows up sometimes. I was under the impression that someone wrote a script about VIDEO GAME MURDERS due to the explosion of MMOS in the early 2000s but then no one wanted it so they made it Hellraiser. I was going to say the original intent of the script probably was a casualty of Stay Alive (that Frankie Muniz movie about a killer video game) being terrible but that came out a year later so who knows really.
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Oct 6, 2018 21:19
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I’m not huge on Hellraiser, but it seemed like a series that really lost its meaning early in the series. In the first movie wasn’t Pinhead and the cenobites described as beyond good and evil, and it was your choice to experience what they offered? I always thought that was interesting, he didn’t care if you were good or bad, he had such sights and experiences to show you. They killed Frank because he went back on their agreement. But then he turned into an evil slasher pretty quick. Didn’t they kill the cenobites in part 2 with the intention of making that evil woman the baddie moving forward?
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Oct 7, 2018 07:17
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Thinking about it, killing off the main villain(s) and then immediately backing out of that idea is a recurring trend in horror huh
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Oct 7, 2018 07:36
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The Cenobites and Pinhead were killed in II, but I seem to recall the Pinhead persona being separated from it's human host (Capt. Eliott Spencer) and becoming a being of pure evil in the third movie. Spencer was trapped in limbo after dying and Pinhead was a representation of Spencer's id.
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Oct 7, 2018 07:38
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Marin Karin posted:Thinking about it, killing off the main villain(s) and then immediately backing out of that idea is a recurring trend in horror huh Gonz posted:The Cenobites and Pinhead were killed in II, but I seem to recall the Pinhead persona being separated from it's human host (Capt. Eliott Spencer) and becoming a being of pure evil in the third movie. Spencer was trapped in limbo after dying and Pinhead was a representation of Spencer's id. The Hellraiser wiki pages are a fascinating hole to waste an afternoon in. At least three of the ten movies were spec scripts that were rewritten to be shoehorned into the franchise, and the last two were so bad that Doug Bradley actually refused to play Pinhead. Think about that. The last two movies were so bad he didn't want to be in them, but was in the ones that weren't even Hellraiser scripts to begin with.
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Oct 7, 2018 15:15
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The Pinhead in the more recent found footage-y one looks like Private Pyle in green grease paint.
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Oct 7, 2018 22:35
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I'm about half an hour into the latest episode and I'm liking it but holy heck this is testing my limits on how many times I can hear four new yorkers say the word dog
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Oct 9, 2018 13:15
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dauwgz
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Oct 9, 2018 20:07
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Eh, not the best episode. Looking forward to the Van Helsing episode though.
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Oct 9, 2018 20:45
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Its kind of impressive how Mans Best Friend somehow manages to be both “batshit crazy” but “not nearly batshit crazy” enough. Like you have the acid piss and cat eating, but as the boys mentioned it’s not nearly as violent as it feels like it should be. And despite looking like an anime mad scientist, Lance Henrikson really doesn’t do too much in the movie.
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Oct 9, 2018 21:07
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Violator posted:Didn�t they kill the cenobites in part 2 with the intention of making that evil woman the baddie moving forward? Yeah, but the actress made it clear she would not be returning for another movie.
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Oct 9, 2018 22:54
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https://twitter.com/binks_james/status/1047081369292165120 God that cat is so pissed off.
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Oct 10, 2018 01:17
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All the talk of Dog Cheers had me cackling but also, which episode is it where they die laughing at Kelsey Grammer falling off the stage?
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Oct 10, 2018 07:11
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SamuraiFoochs posted:All the talk of Dog Cheers had me cackling but also, which episode is it where they die laughing at Kelsey Grammer falling off the stage? Transformers: Age of Extinction My favorite part of that episode is when they play the audio of his death scene later on.
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Oct 10, 2018 16:05
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Has anyone done the needful and replaced the intro music with the Cheers theme yet?
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Oct 10, 2018 16:18
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 SURPRISE EPISODEAndrew and Chris doing a Siskel and Ebert-ish preview for the rest of the year. It's good. Less "zany" than the usual but it's interesting to hear Chris and Andrew in full on total critic mode. 
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Oct 14, 2018 18:15
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Lemon posted:I'm about half an hour into the latest episode and I'm liking it but holy heck this is testing my limits on how many times I can hear four new yorkers say the word dog At least there isn't any coffee, nor do they go on about how it's awesome
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Oct 15, 2018 00:15
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https://twitter.com/joshua_hollis/status/1051585207373942784 This was the best bit of the ep
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Oct 15, 2018 14:31
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Captain Hotbutt posted:
I don't often get to hear internet talky people talking about Movies For Adults, at least new ones anyway. So that's nice.
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Oct 15, 2018 16:10
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I thought the Busta Rhymes Kung fu stuff was kinda a joke, but it’s real and worse than I expected now that I’ve looked up clips. Dang. What a terrible movie. I watched Halloween 4 on Shudder and thought that was bad but this is worse. Good episode. I also really liked the Andre the Giant impressions during Man’s Best Friend episode.
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Oct 17, 2018 14:12
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Violator posted:I thought the Busta Rhymes Kung fu stuff was kinda a joke, but it’s real and worse than I expected now that I’ve looked up clips. Dang. What a terrible movie. I watched Halloween 4 on Shudder and thought that was bad but this is worse. Yeah, for some reason I didn't think I had seen Resurrection, but sure enough, I remembered all that stuff and wnated to forget it.
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Oct 17, 2018 14:22
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I also misremembererd that the kid went and saved the girl at the end. I watched this a couple years ago and was waiting for the deus-ex kid. Also, I totally thought he was in HS talking to a college girl.
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Oct 18, 2018 04:18
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Violator posted:
I hope no one told them about how Andre was racist too
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Oct 18, 2018 04:40
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Captain Hotbutt posted:
Struggling mightily to choose my favorite. Possibly Justin J Case off-screen attending to disaster victims at the mortuary.
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Oct 18, 2018 07:38
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GoutPatrol posted:I hope no one told them about how Andre was racist too Wait really he was??? 
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Oct 18, 2018 15:42
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Joe the Strummer posted:Wait really he was??? Well. He was French.
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Oct 18, 2018 21:25
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Joe the Strummer posted:Wait really he was??? Just one story I remember was when he was on a bus and he was talking to some people, just casually dropping n-bombs all over the place. Bad News Allen, who was black, asked him to stop. Andre ignored him and said it again, and Allen made the bus driver stop the bus. He got out and told Andre to get his rear end out so they could settle this. Bad News, a bronze medal Olympian in judo, prayed he wouldn't because Andre would destroy him. Andre refused to get out of the bus, and later apologized to Allen for what he said. Andre could absolutely be a viscious prick and a horrible bully to people he didn't like, especially if they somehow threatened his "big man" status, and he definitely wasn't the most enlightened guy when it came to racial stuff. He is still roughly 87% less scummy than Hulk goddamn Hogan. Dude was a wrestler. You can count on two hands with a couple fingers left over the amount of honestly decent people in that business. Especially in Andre's day. They men and women who do it these days are by and large way less lovely than they were back then, but they're still mostly weird carnies.
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Oct 19, 2018 03:56
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yea Andre could be a real dick especially if his ego got bruised but considering his peers he was far from the WORST. Like, we all love Dusty but that dude was a way more overt racist and Hulkster has his pile of problems, not to mention Ultimate Warrior's whole life and Super Fly actually killing someone. Wrestlers in that era were one giant mess of scumbags in a super scummy business, even the ones who were cool have at least one story involving 'well ok yea he DID call the guy that slur but to be fair he was on a lot of coke at the time and probably didn't remember it'
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Oct 19, 2018 04:45
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Well drat. Learned something new today. I only knew Andre from Princess Bride, so I'm pretty disappointed
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Oct 19, 2018 09:09
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Hellsing came on TV about a week or so ago and it was awful, so I'm glad the Patreon episode is rightfully kicking the poo poo out of it.
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Oct 19, 2018 11:41
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I know I saw Hellsing at some point, and yeah, it's pretty spot on
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I saw it in a second run theater where the projectionist had misaligned the frame. It turned into a comedy for the audience as we could see every boom mic lower as someone was about to speak.
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