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King Burgundy posted:Since you are around, who do you think is scum? Hiya. Well, bif for one. Her posts have felt kinda "off" to me all game, beek being a SK makes me feel a bit better about this, since that slapfight d1 was very likely between two people of differing alignments (or two town, but we know for sure about half of it now) and going off of the SK tangent, I mentioned yesterday but I'm always slightly suspicious of anyone that brings up a SK or other 3P role unprompted, and I know gaspy and TMM brought that up before beek's flip, so they're on my radar as well for today
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King Burgundy posted:IS, Gaspy hasn't answered me, but did you also get more than 2 shine to make things with? I started the game with 3 Shine.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:03
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King Burgundy posted:You started with more than 2 shine Gaspy? I did! I can make 3 things, one of each, each one takes a swig of shine! IllegallySober posted:What were your inventions (if you care to share?) Absolutely not sharing that one at this stage.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:06
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Asphyxious posted:Absolutely not sharing that one at this stage. Okay, let’s try this. Do any of your items overlap with what I’ve already claimed?
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Oct 8, 2018 07:12
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IllegallySober posted:Okay, let’s try this. Do any of your items overlap with what I’ve already claimed? Haven’t you only mentioned a padlock? No I don’t make padlocks.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:16
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Asphyxious posted:Haven’t you only mentioned a padlock? I mentioned that and this: Murmur Twin posted:Why Solus? IllegallySober posted:What I gave him was a one-shot Shinecop. I figured by giving him that he could either use it to clear me, or would at minimum feel better about me being town.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:17
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IllegallySober posted:I mentioned that and this: What’s a shinecop? Like a rolecop for shine roles? Again, no.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:19
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Asphyxious posted:What’s a shinecop? Like a rolecop for shine roles? Hmmmmmmm. Okay.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:20
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So gaspy gave something to Beet N1 and Max N2, both of whom haven’t used it yet (Max obviously since he just got it last night) I gave my items to KB N1 and Solus N2. KB used his N2, and Solus is dead and can’t use it.
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ok gonna write my claim post next but while reviewing the flips I just noticed something way more pressing that needs to be addressed:Podima posted:
what the gently caress, Pod that name is taken!!
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Oct 8, 2018 08:09
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Asiina, aka Werner Tennyson, Migrant-Aligned Vanilla {Snitch}, was shot dead on Night 1!
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I am Vanilla {Adapter} and I performed these actions: N1: No action N2: Defense (failed)
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Oct 8, 2018 08:11
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also confirming that SS3P successfully brought me into a masonry N1, then Max on N2
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as for scum reads, I still have a bad feeling about Gaspy. He seemed to be doing the same kind of interaction with me like he had in FF7 when he was a godfather: try and be cautious enough to not straight up call me scummy, but just act "confused" about some of the things I said. Enough to just cast a bit of shade. He's not out to start a fight though, he's just "wary". Now that there's a cop result (or two? still gotta fill in my spreadsheet) on him I guess I can hold off on him as usual, but with these many freaking cops around something has to be hosed. Next up is sniper. He was pretty quiet all along, and his claim seems a bit too conveniently delayed after the fact. Plus he does seem to be rolefishing all the time... Gaspy was actually the one I saw most pointing this out, but that doesn't mean much of anything. It is totally like him to at least lightly bus a scum bud if they make any posts that seem just objectively bad. Third choice today would be IS. Besides the earlier points made about him, I don't like how last night he just happens to give his item to the NK. I'm still filling in a lot of data here so sorry if I missed you already saying this IS, but why did you even choose Solus to give an item to?
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Bifauxnen posted:Third choice today would be IS. Besides the earlier points made about him, I don't like how last night he just happens to give his item to the NK. I'm still filling in a lot of data here so sorry if I missed you already saying this IS, but why did you even choose Solus to give an item to? Murmur Twin posted:Why Solus? IllegallySober posted:What I gave him was a one-shot Shinecop. I figured by giving him that he could either use it to clear me, or would at minimum feel better about me being town. Murmur Twin posted:Interesting. Were you at all worried that he might be scum? IllegallySober posted:No, I actually read him for town pretty strongly by the end of yesterday, so I wasn’t concerned about that. Passing out now, back in 8-10 hours.
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Oct 8, 2018 08:39
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lol, literally to look more townie, got it
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Oct 8, 2018 08:44
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Full disclosure: I’m posting this having not read the last page or so because I want to hear discussion on my results. Actually I’m gonna do it in a separate post for TMMs thing
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I am a migrant-aligned Vanilla {Snoop} who started with two shine. On n1 I targeted gaspy and got MIGRANT On n1 I was inspired, which doubles the use of my next shine On d2 I received a singed lasso, good for a 1x roleblock. I haven’t used it yet. On n2 I targeted sniper and got “your action failed”. I also targeted ss3p and got NOT MIGRANT. My logic was that I wanted to target people who I didn’t have an organic read on.
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Oct 8, 2018 09:12
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Interesting
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Oct 8, 2018 09:54
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Soo scum who can create a masonry or just a scum team?
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Oct 8, 2018 09:55
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Wait I don't think I was the first to say that
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Oct 8, 2018 10:03
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Ahh yeah it was tmm
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Lol awesome.
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Oct 8, 2018 10:57
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This is a lot to process. I mean it’s all terribly exciting but now there’s so many moving parts. - I can see SS3P as scum - I can see Bif as scum - can’t see max as scum So TMM’s theory that the masonry is the scum team in plain sight doesn’t work for me either. It wouldn’t be a clever gambit, it’d be a stupid one. Even with TMM’s lie detector, there’d be no reason to set up 3 scum. They could have just sacrificed SS3P. I can’t see max OR bif thinking that was a good idea. MMT’s reasoning for picking those two is both very good and very foreign to me. I can’t work out why but there’s this feeling that it’s a setup. But then THAT doesn’t make sense either. Maybe the lie detector stuff honestly made scum fumble? That’d be nice.
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Social Studies 3rd Period posted:
When asked who they would vote for, they offer up me, TMM and... Bif. Isn’t that a bit odd? Considering they were now in a masonry with bif? Why mason someone you were on the fence with, why soft bus your mason buddy with no real reason?
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Oct 8, 2018 11:06
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Asphyxious posted:When asked who they would vote for, they offer up me, TMM and... Bif. A bit odd but I also think a new scum with masonry powers might well mason a scumbro first to have someone with them in the masonry to help out I could also see there being both a town and scum inventor and I think it’s awfully convenient that IS visited the kill covering any potential watch/tracks So I’ll stick with my original scum picks and swap SS3P for Max
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Asphyxious posted:This is a lot to process. yeah i pretty much ran through all of that in my head while i was bottling my beer  so lynching ss3p (lol 3p) we find out if mmt was correct and can instantly see if he was a mason recruiter or not. if not well, the gig is up, but i highly doubt that'd be the outcome.
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Oct 8, 2018 11:48
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HOWEVER, we still have the 800 cop claims to deal with and now have to take into account a possible lie detector too. that's horrendously op for town if all accurate.
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Oct 8, 2018 11:49
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anyway ##vote Social Studies 3rd Period
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Votecount for Day 3   Social Studies 3rd Period (1): hambeet IllegallySober (1): Asphyxious Not Voting (10): Bifauxnen, Hal Incandenza, IllegallySober, King Burgundy, Max, Murmur Twin, sniper4625, Social Studies 3rd Period, TMMadman, Xad  There are 12 people still alive. The person with the most votes at the end of the day will be executed. The current deadline is October 08th, 2018 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 14 hours, 2 minutes.   Today's execution method is Plurality (the person with the most votes at the end of the day will be
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Yeah ##vote SS3P
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I am Vanilla {Snoop} and I performed these actions: N1: inspect hambeet, got Migrant-Aligned as a result N2: inspect bif, action failed.
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Will post possible scum picks later this morning so please don't turbo yet (but SS3P is the right vote imo) I just have a packed schedule for the next few hours.
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Max did you see that news where that Banksy painting self destructed? I was hoping the print I gave you somehow burst into flames too.
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so now that I got my own chart done up, I wanted to check KB's work:King Burgundy posted:We have a lot of provable actions last night that kind of narrow who the killer could be. That bold bit didn't feel right to me. That statement has a lot of caveats, in the middle of him listing out different possibilities and mentioning a bunch of other hypothetical stuff... but it seemed to still be moving along too hasty. Like the concession that maaaybe we could doubt Beet or Max's claims despite him finding them "natural", but no such doubt at all about how "MMT is going to give us a cop result." He mentions other options like maybe we could have sanity issues or a godfather to deal with... but despite mentioning early, in passing, how we could maaaybe doubt Max or Beet's snoop claim, when he comes back to sum things up about the cop problem in particular, he never really comes straight out to list it as a main option to explain it here. That one of the many Snoops could just be scum.
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Yeah bif I felt the same way. His list presumes no one is lying at all and two scum aren’t confirming fake actions which doesn’t seem very KB to me
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Max posted:Will post possible scum picks later this morning so please don't turbo yet (but SS3P is the right vote imo) I just have a packed schedule for the next few hours. Same here - work is slammed (it’s a holiday and they didn’t schedule anyone beyond the skeleton Monday crew) and then I have class and I barely slept last night. I’ll give the game a read / respond in a few hours but today (and probably tomorrow) I’m going to be somewhat limited re: time I have to play My gut reads right now are that the scum exist in the pool of TMM, IS, SS3P, and sniper.
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Murmur Twin posted:Same here - work is slammed (it’s a holiday and they didn’t schedule anyone beyond the skeleton Monday crew) and then I have class and I barely slept last night. Glad to see you're thinking on the same page. My current scum picks are SS3P, IS, and sniper. SS3P currently has the investigation on him, I know the snoop thing is real on my end and that more than one person obviously has it, so I'm going to trust that result for the day. IS and sniper are the two players that can't really resolve their work out of everything else that's happened. Plus I find IS's reasoning of wanting to give the one shot cop to someone just so they could clear him really suss. Why have someone clear you when you know your alignment? I've been going back and forth on bif, but after seeing the masonry chat, I really doubt I'm looking at two scum faking the content that they've put down so far. If SS3P is scum, I don't think bif is. Can post more later and vote once people have had their say.
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Murmur Twin posted:I am a migrant-aligned Vanilla {Snoop} who started with two shine. I'm legit not sure what to say or really how to defend against this - really, with this information voting me is probably the right move, but well. I know from my role information that I'm the Vanilla Gossip, and would absolutely be happy to submit to the lie detector test for it, because I know what I am. Unless I'm somehow insane or secretly 3P without knowing it, I guess? I have one last invitation to send to the masonry, and I'd be happy to send it to whoever. I will say this, and again, noting I lack any sort of meta knowledge or context, but: it seems a little odd to me that in a game with a supposedly five - five! - cop roles, a couple of inventors, and so on, one of the powers the scum would get would be to... invite people into a masonry? (And I hope the masonry I create is at least accepted as real, with both Max and Bif confirming - d'be a hell of a scum ploy, I guess.) No, I think it's much more likely from my perspective some of our cops are insane or not telling the truth entirely. As such, futile as it may be, I'm gonna ##vote MMT mostly out of self-defense at the moment, but we'll see.
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Max can you see bif and SS3P convos from before you were in the masonry?
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Scum have had the power to create masonries in other shine games before.
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