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Captain Pike posted:Apple wants to interview me. I’m intimidated by things I’ve read about the tech screening, and I have no idea if I want to live in Cupertino, could you really live with yourself benefitting from the ongoing atrocity known as touch bar
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i saw a job posting from them at 67k It's the same in the UK. I ended up making double what they were advertising their comp as.
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Oct 12, 2018 06:59
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Captain Pike posted:Apple wants to interview me. I’m intimidated by things I’ve read about the tech screening, and I have no idea if I want to live in Cupertino, I reached a working solution for 2/5 whiteboard problems. ppl care way more that you engage well, ask for help when you need it, and don't act like a loving weirdo. and you're not gonna live in Cupertino. you're gonna get really paid but your not gonna afford Cupertino.
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Oct 12, 2018 07:03
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apple has the team members youre applying to work with interview you, not a random panel like other companies as such, you’re less applying to the company as a whole, and more that team in specific if it turns out the team isnt a good fit either because of the technical knowledge requirements or the culture and attitudes they have, you’re not totally eliminated. they will likely refer you to interview for another team in another department if it’s clear you’re able to do stuff and it seems like a better fit so go for it, the chances aren’t bad even if it doesn’t work out, there’s not much to lose
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just got an offer for 3x my current salary which, while rad, makes me really question the journey I took to get here because I spent way too many years doing stuff that really did not make me happy in the hopes that I would get a job like this. I don't know if there's something special about this time of year, but in the last couple of days, multiple people from my past have texted me going 'heyyyyyyy how's your current job? because we've got something open over here right now'. The thing that almost killed my offer was that I appeared extremely internet around the edges and I had to convince them that I'm not going to show up and just be an edgy dick to work with, so I guess make sure you keep the YOSPOS in an airtight container out there. anyways, the impostor syndrome is kicking in and I'm terrified because for once in my life I'll actually be responsible for something that has Real Implications if I gently caress it up.
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Oct 12, 2018 07:37
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interviewing is hell. this was me this summer:TheFluff posted:when i started looking around for a new job and going to interviews a few weeks ago i felt really confident in myself as a programmer, that i was really starting to feel like i could rely on myself to tackle almost any problem that was posted after I felt like I hosed up on a videoconferencing coding session with the tech lead at a medium sized edtech company. I ran out of time, probably because I went for an overly complicated solution. he was very nice about it though, and so was everyone else at the company, and I eventually ended up getting hired. I started this tuesday and so far it seems like I made the right choice. hang in there, goons. learning what to say in interviews took me a lot of loving up, and even then, a lot of the time you get rejected for basically no reason at all. don't let it get to you. dan luu's blog is great btw, he has both quite interesting post about various nerdery but also some great career advice and stories about how basically every company is weird as gently caress in one way or another. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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dan luu posted:At the last conference I attended, I asked most people I met two questions:
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bob dobbs is dead posted:dont stop sending resumes I turned on the “let recruiters pester me” on LinkedIn and it’s gotten me an interview so far
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Boiled Water posted:I turned on the “let recruiters pester me” on LinkedIn and it’s gotten me an interview so far When I was looking, I turned that on and got basically nothing, since I got New Job at Prestigious Company, I turned it off and the recruiters won’t shut the gently caress up
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm not sure a clearance has been worth anything since the massive cutbacks around the sequester even if it did net you more money, it's usually not worth the toll on your sanity working on gov't contracts
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Arcsech posted:When I was looking, I turned that on and got basically nothing, since I got New Job at Prestigious Company, I turned it off and the recruiters won’t shut the gently caress up Yeah, my sister got a job at the goog for a few years touching computers and she gets 3-4 recruiter spams a day I get roughly the same amount having gone to plutocrat school and worked at two famous startups Recruiters can't tell you how old swift is but they can deffo tell you how famous the goog or plutocrat school is
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Oct 12, 2018 14:53
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I worked for a consulting company for a couple of years and now I get tons of recruiter spam from consulting recruiters even though I have the thing switched off and don't want to do placement consulting either
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Arcsech posted:When I was looking, I turned that on and got basically nothing, since I got New Job at Prestigious Company, I turned it off and the recruiters won’t shut the gently caress up I didn't know it was even an option so I've turned it on as of now since I can't even seem to get the local recruiters to call me back Probably regret it in a few years but gently caress it we regret a lot of things
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Oct 12, 2018 20:53
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that reminds me is LinkedIn itself useful as a job search engine or will I just keep wandering into outdated posts/information like so far
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Oct 12, 2018 20:54
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Ciaphas posted:that reminds me is LinkedIn itself useful as a job search engine or will I just keep wandering into outdated posts/information like so far its ostensibly for talkin to recruiters only it's not any fuckin good for talkin to recruiters
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Oct 12, 2018 20:56
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oh well, i'll apply out the normal way i consider it a good day if i get at least one app out a day at this point, i know that's nowhere near enough but i keep judging myself before i even apply once i find a match ("no, i'm not even close on the listed requirements on this even if i think i could adapt") trying to stop doing that 
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Oct 12, 2018 20:59
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Ciaphas posted:oh well, i'll apply out the normal way here's a lil flowchart for whether you should apply: 
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Oct 12, 2018 21:05
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yeah i know it's detrimental of me to even pretend the hiring process is rational enough for my not quiiite matching to matter i blame brainworms as usual but all i can do is try not to let it affect me!
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Oct 12, 2018 21:22
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bob dobbs is dead posted:here's a lil flowchart for whether you should apply: absolutely. I was 10000% not qualified for the job I applied for at my new company. I ended up getting a different job than I applied for but I still fuckin love it
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Oct 12, 2018 22:01
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Yeah I didn't know a single technology my current job uses and they hired me and then taught them to me. Apply apply apply
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I reached the point there are no more places left to apply so I just sent my resume to the same places where I was rejected already to get rejected again lol
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Symbolic Butt posted:I reached the point there are no more places left to apply so I just sent my resume to the same places where I was rejected already to get rejected again lol ... find another site thing? apply for remote jobs? where the hell do you live that you actually run out of places to apply to?
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<checks yospos.xlsx> :butt lives in a city in brasil
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meatpotato posted:<checks yospos.xlsx> :butt lives in a city in brasil I'm legit flattered I'm on a yospos.xlsx
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you were my secret santa two years ago! i still have that dancy skeleton guy in my kitchen
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Oct 13, 2018 00:56
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oh yeah! now I feel bad for forgetting that
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It's good to talk about salary. But don't act like they're going to disappear if you don't apply to poo poo like right now this second. Don't get anxious about it, if you're already earning then take your time and find a company you really like that also pays well, and treat any rejections as good interview practice, which it is. And also, ask lots of interesting questions in interviews because even if you get rejected, you might learn something that you can bring back to your current company.
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isn’t Brazil about to elect a hitler, maybe you should be looking internationally
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raminasi posted:isn’t Brazil about to elect a hitler, maybe you should be looking internationally
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Raluek posted:yeah my take home is around the same (biweekly almost 2k on the dot) and my gross salary is 76,500. im not maxing my 401k tho, although i am contributing. youre making 23% more than i am but are taking home less? that cant all be due to the 401k so normally i am all about averaging out consumption levels across your lifetime and poo poo, but not for 401ks the 401k is an insanely good deal. nothing else even comes close. and your earlier inputs compound a lot more than your later inputs max your 401k, son do whatever you have to do to max out that tax benefit. do a little moonlighting. move into a cheaper apartment. don't lease a new car. whatever you want to max that early in life, and keep it maxed as long as your career lasts, because it really matters a lot
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Fiedler posted:you should be earning that amount as annual bonus. jit bull transpile posted:don't be ridiculous. very few people are getting bonuses that big and you shouldn't people's expectations to be that absurd. comp structures vary widely for software developers in the technology industry, facebook, amazon, apple, and google are infamous for paying rather ordinary salaries, and then using insane bonuses and stock grants to hit their famous pay numbers. (netflix is similar, but w/out the stock grants) i currently work for a large financial firm so nearly all my pay is straight cash. bonus vs base comp depends on negotiating skill and height in the corporate ladder. (management gets paid as much as 3/4ths in bonuses. individual contributors tend to have ~25-30% of total pay in bonus) i used to work at a large non-tech firm and their strategy was pretty simple: here is nice base pay, you will get 5-6% every year no matter what have fun. entry level pay sucked poo poo, but dudes who stayed for 20 years made bank. and then retired on 80% pensions. startups just pay fuckall and then hope you will take magic beans for the rest of your comp etc etc Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Oct 13, 2018 |
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Captain Pike posted:Apple wants to interview me. I’m intimidated by things I’ve read about the tech screening, and I have no idea if I want to live in Cupertino, no one sane wants to live in cupertino, but working in cupertino does not mean you are obliged to live there
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But you should live and work in places that mean you don't have to drive every day, because the planet is dying.
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who's in boston that's worth working for? i don't want to commute to the companies out by 128 and i don't even want to bother with ms, facebook, or the goog.
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raminasi posted:isn’t Brazil about to elect a hitler, maybe you should be looking internationally here let me quote you this Notorious b.s.d. posted:why on earth would someone fly you across the world and go through elaborate visa processes to get you residency?
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there's a computer toucher shortage in europe and there are definitely companies willing to sponsor visas. stockholm is full of computer touching expats. on my team we have people from croatia, brazil, india, the philippines, russia and scotland. mostly pretty ordinary web programmers too with a few years of experience, not senior level.
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Oct 13, 2018 18:30
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Europe pays bad and is expensive so it can't be that short. Or am I just thinking about London?
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qhat posted:Europe pays bad and is expensive so it can't be that short. Or am I just thinking about London? well, yeah, everyone pays bad compared to the us, and london was a terrible place with absurd costs of living even before brexit. stockholm also has high costs of living but at least you still get stuff for your taxes, especially if you have kids. only reason I brought stockholm up though was because that's where I am.
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You get paid less, but get things like free health care and your coming children, free or cheap university. Depending on where you fall on the fygm scale
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I just remember when I moved from the London to Canada, I'd spent a year and a half out of work and I immediately got a salary exactly that of my previous wage, only with cheaper cost of living. Never move to London.
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