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pile of brown posted:Health Dept. Reports are public knowledge so you don't exactly need a self maintained spreadsheet well yes but by having the state health departments reports autopopulate my database and cross-reference the USDA action and inspection announcements and CDC outbreak reports I get all the info in one place
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It's these guys http://www.handsomebrookfarm.com/
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Croatoan posted:It's these guys http://www.handsomebrookfarm.com/ Generally, in most food/drug areas, the larger the company, the more likely it is to actually follow the law. There are massive, well-known exceptions to this, but the point is these exceptions are well-known; like 98% of violations occur with small-time operations that view safety regulations as an imposition by The Man. Handsome Brook is huge- they're a conglomerate of organic farm properties selling to the mothership, a couple who came up with a unified supply chain license approach that works well in their market. As far as a cursory examination of federal records indicates, they have no history of contamination issues, but I can't tell if their processing facilities are inspected by USDA or if they evade it by distributing entirely within NY, whose inspection records I can't access. No reports of outbreaks tied to their eggs, in any case. Handsome Brook messaging combines legit animal welfare and environmental claims with some fairly spurious stuff like anti-GMO assertions, but this isn't really relevant to product safety. You should be aware, though, that they have a checkered history regarding their labeling claims. It's complicated, but when they were scaling up, they met demand by buying eggs from other sources. Some of these eggs met only part of the organic/free range/etc claims they made, and they got sued like 5 ways over it. That's not a great sign for the company's honesty, or a positive sign for whether they'd comply with safety regs. https://www.cornucopia.org/2016/08/oca-sues-handsome-brook-farm-pasture-raised-claims/ https://www.cornucopia.org/scorecard/eggs/handsome-brook-farm/ (some other coverage downplays the lawsuits and states they weren't legit, but this was basically PR work by Handsome Brook). In any case, eating raw eggs is against USDA regs, and there are broader reasons not to do it involving the spread of drug-resistant pathogens, but the likelihood of getting sick from eating raw eggs from this source seems no higher than any other source. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Raw eggs are good, and if I die from having a prairie oyster, it will be in the name of a good cause.
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Scientastic posted:Raw eggs are good, and if I die from having a prairie oyster, it will be in the name of a good cause. isnt prarie oysters bull testicles
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Oct 15, 2018 18:58
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nah that's Rocky Mountain Oysters
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Discendo Vox posted:egg nerd poo poo bob dobbs is dead posted:isnt prarie oysters bull testicles It can be but there's another meaning. It's also a cocktail with a raw egg, worcestershire, tabasco and a bit of salt and pepper. They're pretty good but I don't like raw egg whites much so I omit that part if I ever have one.
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Croatoan posted:egg nerd poo poo My pleasure. You have no idea the inside beltway crap I've got. scandals at the Egg Board, dueling cert groups, the Mayonnaise Wars.... Anyway, my professional advice on this subject is on the record.
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Discendo Vox posted:My pleasure. You have no idea the inside beltway crap I've got. scandals at the Egg Board, dueling cert groups, the Mayonnaise Wars.... Every time you post I get the compulsion to go have raw oysters and crack a raw egg over whatever I'm eating. Might be just giving me flashbacks to an in-law who works for the USDA, and still visibly struggles to not force her grown daughter to order well done burgers only, and once criticized a nearby family for letting their (teenish) son order a medium steak.
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Croatoan posted:I still can't believe caged eggs make up something like 90% of America's eggs. Poor birds. Farmers markets have a rep for being bougie expensive, but eggs are $5/doz, the hens are happy, and they taste better than the $6.50  pasture eggs from Publix.
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BrianBoitano posted:Farmers markets have a rep for being bougie expensive, but eggs are $5/doz, the hens are happy, and they taste better than the $6.50 Only $5 for a dozen eggs? What a deal!
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Croatoan posted:It can be but there's another meaning. It's also a cocktail with a raw egg, worcestershire, tabasco and a bit of salt and pepper. They're pretty good but I don't like raw egg whites much so I omit that part if I ever have one. I always thought you were only supposed to use the yolk.
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Oct 16, 2018 01:44
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Like so:
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we all gonna die someday, just eat what you like *chokes down chicken sashimi with a side of steak tartare and tamago kake gohan*
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Stringent posted:Like so: Right? Like I'm down with a salt and seasoning blast comforted with egg yolk but raw egg white is boring and kinda gross egg snot.
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Oct 16, 2018 02:35
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pplease cook the eggs
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Eat the eggs
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Alas see thread title
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I made a salad dressing for a beet and celeriac salad I took to a party and used a raw egg yolk in it, just like the recipe said. I didn't even pasteurize the egg first. And I am not sorry.
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BrianBoitano posted:Farmers markets have a rep for being bougie expensive, but eggs are $5/doz, the hens are happy, and they taste better than the $6.50 Try 3x that around here.
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Drink and Fight posted:Try 3x that around here. At that point, buy some hens!
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The thing people don't realize about hens is they stop laying eggs at like age 3-5...and they live for 10 years. Or up to 20.
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Anne Whateley posted:The thing people don't realize about hens is they stop laying eggs at like age 3-5...and they live for 10 years. Or up to 20. After 3-5 years the only living they should do is in the stewpot.
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Most people who get into backyard chickens without doing even that much research aren't likely to up and stewpot Henrietta, who still has a great quality of life but is just postmenopausal
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i'm curious how many backyarders have them last 5+ with raccoons and whatnot. I'd check PI but I don't think that's a good sample
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:i'm curious how many backyarders have them last 5+ with raccoons and whatnot. I'd check PI but I don't think that's a good sample You do NOT want to ask about chickens in the Ask Me About Chickens thread.
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With raccoons, rats, hawks, and the galliform propensity for suicidal behavior, you have to really rig up a good safe shelter. Most people fail at this. I did, several times. At 3am, the last thing you want is to follow screaming out into the snow, where you see your favorite hen headless and upright, spurting arterial blood like a Monty Python sketch.
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:i'm curious how many backyarders have them last 5+ with raccoons and whatnot. I'd check PI but I don't think that's a good sample My first group of girls died between 2 and 3. One just randomly died, one has ascites and was put down, one got really bad fly strike and got put down, one got sick with something we never did figure out and got put down. (When I say put down I mean I snapped their necks and buried them. I use the axe handle method where you put a handle behind their skull and lift their bodies quickly and pull. It dislocates their skull and severs the spinal cord. I would then reverse the axe and whack their head off just to ensure it was done. Took around 5 seconds total) The next batch were 2 years old when I moved and they went to live my friend on their organic hippy farm and then all got murdered by a weasel with the other 40 hens they had. I will let you know how the next batch works out. I treat them as livestock. They aren't getting major vet treatment. They are getting put down. But keeping them alive is a continual struggle to prevent them from killing themselves in unique and completely unforeseen ways. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Happy Hat posted:It is cheaper to move Nike trainers than to move food, and the price of moving Nike trainers from China to the US is (per pair of shoes) less than the price you pay to VISA to clear the payment. (that has zero bearing on the argument, but it is an interesting factoid from one of the largest transport companies in the world). Currently working with really large shipping companies and freight forwarders. It costs me the same to ship a 20' container with 20 metric tons of cargo from Asia to the USA (either coast) than it does to truck it from Los Angeles to Oakland. Suppose I add in the FDA, USDA, and Customs duty/exam costs to the mix. It's still cheaper to move it from Asia to the USA (either coast) than to get it on a train from Long Beach to Newark. And that's with nonperishable food products. Make that sucker a reefer, and all of a sudden, poo poo gets ugly. When you compare what I spend on shipping to what a company like Nike would spend on the same, it's staggering. I work for a small business, and I can still negotiate decent rates on shipping. To think of companies that move entire ship loads of cargo at a time? Man.
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My boyfriend owns the shittiest knives. TJ's Unexpectedly Mighty Cheddar
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speaking of animal husbandry, my wife really wants alpacas. She has for a while now, but we visited an alpaca ranch while on vacation in Portland last week and talked the owner's ear off about raising pacas and now she's super excited about it.
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GrAviTy84 posted:speaking of animal husbandry, my wife really wants alpacas. She has for a while now, but we visited an alpaca ranch while on vacation in Portland last week and talked the owner's ear off about raising pacas and now she's super excited about it. Do they taste good?
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That Works posted:Do they taste good? Their eggs do.
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Alpacas are extremely cute and good, but please don't think they're an investment. That bubble (actually more of a pyramid scam tbh) popped years back. If you can afford to do it as a hobby (especially assuming she spins/knits?) and you have the land, then definitely get a couple, but whatever you do, don't think of it as a business proposition. They are pets or hobbies, not investments.
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GrAviTy84 posted:speaking of animal husbandry, my wife really wants alpacas. She has for a while now, but we visited an alpaca ranch while on vacation in Portland last week and talked the owner's ear off about raising pacas and now she's super excited about it. Don’t you live in Corona?
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Anne Whateley posted:Alpacas are extremely cute and good, but please don't think they're an investment. That bubble (actually more of a pyramid scam tbh) popped years back. If you can afford to do it as a hobby (especially assuming she spins/knits?) and you have the land, then definitely get a couple, but whatever you do, don't think of it as a business proposition. They are pets or hobbies, not investments. Def spins/knits and yeah most definitely not an investment proposition. Errant Gin Monks posted:Don’t you live in Corona? Moreno Valley. We need to get the hell out of here, but we're trying to pay off some debt first. I need to reign in the "holy poo poo I make real money now" so I can have a better living/commute situation.
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In that case you should absolutely get some alpaca buddies and post pics nonstop so I can live vicariously through you. I like the gray ones best, tia
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Anne Whateley posted:In that case you should absolutely get some alpaca buddies and post pics nonstop so I can live vicariously through you. I like the gray ones best, tia Have some video footage of the ones we visited last week. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bow_w64Dy0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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That's the good poo poo, thank you
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GrAviTy84 posted:I am buying alpacas for fun GrAviTy84 posted:I need to reign in the "holy poo poo I make real money now". I'm sensing a degree of tension between these positions
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