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Mel Mudkiper posted:The kind of people who trust Russo over Meltzer absolutely have to be younger than the death of wcw Yeah I think most of them are people who weren't old enough to actually watch WCW when it was around, and their only knowledge of it comes from WWE's comically revisionist "documentaries" or professional bullshit artists like ... Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff. So you can see the dilemma here.
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The right wing cultists of American politics have been programmed for decades now to think of the Saudis as "the good arabs", ever since Bush held hands and made out with them back in the day.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:18
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Why would Saudi Arabia kidnap the wrestlers? Vince is pretty much the kingdom's most effective propaganda arm at the moment.
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Hold them hostage until they send Yokozuna like the prince wanted
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TinTower posted:Why would Saudi Arabia kidnap the wrestlers? Vince is pretty much the kingdom's most effective propaganda arm at the moment. because the people in charge of Saudi Arabia sent a hit squad after a journo and the current excuse(revision 6) is that he died during an interrogation accident. If MBS decides he wants a pet Shawn Michaels, he's going to have a pet Shawn Michaels, UN handwringing be damned. The more likely scenario is that KSA will decide that they won't pay WWE what they've promised and tell them to get hosed.
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WrasslorMonkey posted:Stop giving WWE Studios ideas. The next Wolf Warrior movie is set in the Middle East maybe he can save the roster while he's beating ISIS and Al Qaeda.
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coconono posted:because the people in charge of Saudi Arabia sent a hit squad after a journo and the current excuse(revision 6) is that he died during an interrogation accident. If MBS decides he wants a pet Shawn Michaels, he's going to have a pet Shawn Michaels, UN handwringing be damned. My point is exactly that MBS is definitely going to use Crown Jewel, like he used the Oil Rumble, to deflect and be like “oh, look at us, we’re so progressive now!” I’m actually surprised he hasn’t tried to muscle into the F1 calendar; F1 and Eurovision has done a lot to brush Aliyev’s human rights issues under the carpet, after all.
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TinTower posted:My point is exactly that MBS is definitely going to use Crown Jewel, like he used the Oil Rumble, to deflect and be like “oh, look at us, we’re so progressive now!” Tbf I’m having a hard time imagining the type of non Saudi who looks at them hosting a WWE show and thinks “how progressive” Benne posted:You must've missed the last time WWE went to KSA for the Greatest Royal Rumble, because there were a loving myriad of Western fans claiming how this was a good thing, that WWE can help enact positive change in the country. You probably don't even have to dig through this thread far enough to find such takes. So many people bought the "progressive" line hook and sinker. Honestly I must have cause I though except for a lunatic fringe most people thought it was awful. But I don’t branch very far out into crazy internet wrestler fan land except for the bad opinions thread Aesop Poprock fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Oct 16, 2018 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:Tbf I’m having a hard time imagining the type of non Saudi who looks at them hosting a WWE show and thinks “how progressive” You don't have to imagine him, he's president.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Tbf I’m having a hard time imagining the type of non Saudi who looks at them hosting a WWE show and thinks “how progressive” You must've missed the last time WWE went to KSA for the Greatest Royal Rumble, because there were a loving myriad of Western fans claiming how this was a good thing, that WWE can help enact positive change in the country, and how important it was to "build bridges" or whatever. You probably don't even have to dig through this thread far enough to find such takes. So many people bought the "progressive" line hook and sinker. It's almost like well-produced propaganda is scary effective or something.
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Nah trump looks at wwe in Saudi Arabia and gets a little cranky that his buddy Vince didn’t cut him in on the profits
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Benne posted:You must've missed the last time WWE went to KSA for the Greatest Royal Rumble, because there were a loving myriad of Western fans claiming how this was a good thing, that WWE can help enact positive change in the country, and how important it was to "build bridges" or whatever. You probably don't even have to dig through this thread far enough to find such takes. So many people bought the "progressive" line hook and sinker. I dunno if they even believed the whole progressive thing so much. A lot of people just don't want to stop watching WWE and will find ways to rationalize that no matter what they do or how bad the product gets.
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I was DMing with someone a few minutes ago. It was half Ronda/half WWE verbiage wise. Apparently she is slowly getting more and more control over her lines.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Ronda loving sucks Let's go loving Ronda
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Low Desert Punk posted:Ronda loving sucks  Her stupid bigoted rear end getting hired on was a sad day.
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Yardbomb posted:
the company that hired her venerates the Ultimate Warrior every year
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Alaois posted:the company that hired her venerates the Ultimate Warrior every year That doesn't make her not a bigoted idiot
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Alaois posted:The company that hired her venerates the Ultimate Warrior every year Yes and Both can be bad. Ultimate Warrior was a douche with a clown persona to cover it up but he's dead, it's still lame, but Rousey's a lovely overrated homophobe/transphobe right now. Low Desert Punk posted:That doesn't make her not a bigoted idiot Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Any individual worker being a lovely person is usually something I overlook due to management being worse. But yeah, also, Warrior's dead.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Any individual worker being a lovely person is usually something I overlook due to management being worse. Management's done a pretty good job so far of not publicly saying they don't think any of the Sandy Hook kids actually died
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Yardbomb posted:Yes and I’ve heard about her being a Truther, and I’m not doubting you, but what has she said that’s homophobic and/or transphobic?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I’ve heard about her being a Truther, and I’m not doubting you, but what has she said that’s homophobic and/or transphobic? She was on someone or another's show and started running her mouth about stuff like MTF transpeople being allowed to Do The Sports, in the usual way idiots do. (IE It's not fair, they're just trying to cheat with their MAN skeleton!) Ronda Rousey posted:She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but it’s still the same bone structure a man has. It’s an advantage. I don’t think it’s fair. Matt Mitrione had also just gone on a big transphobic rant, the guy she's trying to play defense for, calling Fallon Fox (Trans fighter) Buffalo Bill and a "sociopathic freak" and poo poo. 
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person who beats people unconscious for money surprisingly not a paragon of progressive values news at 11
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Mel Mudkiper posted:person who beats people unconscious for money surprisingly not a paragon of progressive values Thanks for doing your duty in defending horrible bigots lunkhead 
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Yardbomb posted:Thanks for doing your duty in defending horrible bigots lunkhead lol totally not my point
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Yardbomb posted:Yes and hiring ronda rousey wasn't some ah jeez black mark tarnishing a brand sad day, it was the WWE keeping exactly in line with its core values
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Yardbomb posted:Thanks for doing your duty in defending horrible bigots lunkhead There's literally no room to discuss the actual issues with trans athletic competitors without being a permanently irredeemable bigot, it's 100% true. :somestupidassemojitoreallyhammerhomeithome:
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Mel Mudkiper posted:lol totally not my point I love you for the most part friend but you're still a Steelers fan, eventually people notice the pattern
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Given that Fallon Fox can be beaten by anyone that did a few weeks of cardio, the fairness arguments died down pretty loving quick. I think she’s quietly retired now. Last I heard, she was trying to get a twitch game stream thing going.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:There's literally no room to discuss the actual issues with trans athletic competitors without being a permanently irredeemable bigot, it's 100% true. The actual issues: The treatment they face by bigots whether up front or behind their back and why they should be better protected and why harsher punishments should be levied at LGBT hatred in various franchises There we go. None of them were trying to discuss jack poo poo, they were calling Fallon Fox a "sociopathic tranny" and pulling out "WELL I MEAN WHAT ABOUT THE SOCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES" bullshit which is like, literally bad faith bigot arguments 101, they didn't and don't care, they wanna single out the lady that looks different and beat up on minorities some more. Alaois posted:Hiring ronda rousey wasn't some ah jeez black mark tarnishing a brand sad day, it was the WWE keeping exactly in line with its core values Where did I say this whatsoever, you're putting weird words in my mouth. Yardbomb posted:Her stupid bigoted rear end getting hired on was a sad day. I didn't say it ROCKED THE FOUNDATIONS OF MY TRUST IN HHH or something dude, I said it was a sad day, because it's yet another open bigot being rewarded.
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Yardbomb posted:The actual issues: The treatment they face by bigots whether up front or behind their back and why they should be better protected and why harsher punishments should be levied at LGBT hatred in various franchises It’s a legitimately complex subject to approach and still in its infancy so anyone raising a question about how it’s supposed to work from either side gets brow beaten by the other and it’s just not a fun thing to discuss in public forums at the moment. This relates to all issues of trans involvement in sports but combat sports especially so. There are really lovely people out there that use it as an excuse to air their transphobia for sure
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