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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you too can be bottomlessly smug and ready for any and all business scenarios, using the notorious b.s.d seven step program: shoes on fleek tho
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I interviewed today for a different position at the same big company i had the bad experience at about two and a half weeks ago and it went much better than before! unfortunately one of the interview questions was in an area i have nearly zero experience in, so I don’t think ill get the job. its too bad, I like the team and the responsibilities
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Oct 17, 2018 01:57
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Skim Milk posted:shoes on fleek tho u kno it
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Oct 17, 2018 01:59
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a recruiter just sent me an email to work at a startup called samsara im buddhist lollllll
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Oct 17, 2018 03:07
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dont concatenate the names of all the people i hate
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's not like programmers in, say, minnesota are unaware that wages double on the coasts.
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Arcsech posted:hired probably works great if you are in one of the top two big tech markets, and not at all otherwise. I got one lovely government contracting company from them with my looking location set to Denver and nothing else for months. That way you can at least be honest with yourself when you discard a dozen initial offers at higher pay.
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Achmed Jones posted:a recruiter just sent me an email to work at a startup called samsara lol
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Oct 17, 2018 05:27
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ShadowHawk posted:Set yourself as willing to work in at least one tech hub (bay area, new york). you're loving terrible and i wouldn't hire you to pick up dogshit i mean that in the literal sense, sadly. i've spent too much time with startup fuckers who think "office dogs" are a thing. you, specifically, are dubiously competent in a role that is literally picking up poo poo
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meatpotato posted:I interviewed today for a different position at the same big company i had the bad experience at about two and a half weeks ago and it went much better than before! unfortunately one of the interview questions was in an area i have nearly zero experience in, so I don’t think ill get the job. its too bad, I like the team and the responsibilities don't underrate yourself you have no loving clue what their must-haves are in an interview. you could sense you hosed a thing up, but that is not likely to be the reason they do or do not hire you mang
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:don't underrate yourself thanks mang one of the interviewers that asked the hard question also stayed through the break before the next interviewer came to explain some of the stuff i didn’t know, it was nice
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Oct 17, 2018 06:12
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you have no loving clue what their must-haves are in an interview. you could sense you hosed a thing up, but that is not likely to be the reason they do or do not hire you mang Notorious b.s.d. posted:you're loving terrible and i wouldn't hire you to pick up dogshit
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Oct 17, 2018 07:36
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People can reject you for literally any reason whatsoever and often completely unrelated to how you answered the questions in the interview, especially for the actual well paying senior positions. The only thing to do is to keep applying and keep interviewing and eventually enough shots on goal results in a hit.
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Oct 17, 2018 07:45
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qhat posted:People can reject you for literally any reason whatsoever and often completely unrelated to how you answered the questions in the interview, especially for the actual well paying senior positions. The only thing to do is to keep applying and keep interviewing and eventually enough shots on goal results in a hit. i wish there were more to this in the long run than raw numbers 
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Oct 17, 2018 07:50
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Ciaphas posted:i wish there were more to this in the long run than raw numbers Congrats! You've reached the level of "interviewing is garbage".
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Oct 17, 2018 08:19
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Ciaphas posted:i wish there were more to this in the long run than raw numbers there is. go hit up former coworkers, friends, and classmates to refer you for an interview where they work. its a good way to skip the phone screens and having somebody inside vouch for you can really only help
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Oct 17, 2018 08:34
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dipshit business people obsess over shoes in the midwest, too. you're being judged whether you notice it or not The only place I've ever worked that might give a poo poo about what shoes someone might wear was a lovely IT/business consultancy in New Jersey which I was very glad to get out of. This woud be a very weird take for like 99% of people in this thread, I think.
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im filling in an expense report to replace all tables in the interview room to be glass so i can see the shoes
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yospos view the shoes
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the job markets are extremely thin. you might not find another tech job, or at least, not another job that fits your specialisation. no, the market isn't thin here. it was where I grew up - that's why I'm here I also don't believe I can get double what I make on the coasts but that might actually make it worth it to move to Seattle (maybe) if I could. probably not NYC though
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meatpotato posted:there is. go hit up former coworkers, friends, and classmates to refer you for an interview where they work. its a good way to skip the phone screens and having somebody inside vouch for you can really only help third to half the actual rejections ive gotten so far have been internal referrals been almost 3 weeks and i havent made it past a phone screening yet
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this is probably my nyc fintech leaking but i see nothing wrong with wearing slacks and a tucked in button-down to the office. we're allowed to wear jeans at the new boston gig and just about zero people actually do.
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feedmegin posted:The only place I've ever worked that might give a poo poo about what shoes someone might wear was a lovely IT/business consultancy in New Jersey which I was very glad to get out of. This woud be a very weird take for like 99% of people in this thread, I think. programmers are usually loving idiots when the entities in a problem are people instead of code looking at your shithead peers is a really stupid way to choose your office garb, because no one has ever cared about what a programmer had to say on any topic. looking like a programmer is a great way to get treated like a programmer look at the product people and the business people. because they're definitely looking back at you.
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Munkeymon posted:no, the market isn't thin here. it was where I grew up - that's why I'm here nyc is a much more livable place than seattle every idiot visits midtown manhattan and imagines that is what nyc is like. and it's not. midtown manhattan is a miserable hellscape where we go to work, just like the lovely office park where you go to work the residential areas of nyc look like sesame street. (because sesame street is set in nyc) 
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Ciaphas posted:third to half the actual rejections ive gotten so far have been internal referrals keep trying, you’ll get it eventually. those referrals did help you, since you got a call back. I can’t even tell you the number of job applications ive submitted in the last few months that got no response at all
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Ciaphas posted:third to half the actual rejections ive gotten so far have been internal referrals it's a numbers game. stick to it.
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If you're failing every single phone screen that's kind of worrying
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are there any special considerations or things to ask when you're exploring internal transfers
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Bloody posted:are there any special considerations or things to ask when you're exploring internal transfers determine someone within the org whom will have a better understanding of the overall situation than yourself whom you trust to ask that question. ask them that question. e: this is my way of saying, "there are lots of organization-specific concerns, I'm not sure forums folk will be able to help you pinpoint more or less important concerns"
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:nyc is a much more livable place than seattle I know. I've spent a few cumulative weeks there visiting my sister and her husband. I've also spent a few cumulative weeks visiting Seattle and like it better  probably reminds me more of home because of all the Scandinavians
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Sapozhnik posted:If you're failing every single phone screen that's kind of worrying you're telling me?
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meatpotato posted:I interviewed today for a different position at the same big company i had the bad experience at about two and a half weeks ago and it went much better than before! unfortunately one of the interview questions was in an area i have nearly zero experience in, so I don’t think ill get the job. its too bad, I like the team and the responsibilities holy gently caress they wanna give me an offer i could be un-unemployed soon. 
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ciaphas, keep working at it. it’s taken me about a hundred hours of study, failed phone screens, failed technical phone interviews, and failed on-site interviews scattered over three months to get this far. I haven’t posted about most of them here because honestly it stings and moving on feels more productive if i, a lazy unemployed idiot with only a few years of experience making iot trash for rich idiots can get an offer for an offer at 一家很大科技公司, then you, a seasoned engineer who has written far more critical and complex software for a decade can do even better if you cast your doubts aside and continue to grind at it.
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you're totally right, of course. i've never been good at casting away doubt long, especially not long enough to put on a performance, but, well practice, i guess
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:nyc is a much more livable place than seattle i'm certain this is true for some tortured, narrow definition of "livable," but it's very misleading.
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practice is key I’ve had a few different companies use the same coding exercises on me now i failed the first time i was asked one of them, but i worked out the solution after the interview under less pressure. the next two times i was asked to solve the same question in interviews, i vaguely remembered the process it took to get to the solution, talked it out, and got there if you’re having issues with behavioral questions, think of examples for the standard ones ahead of time. finally, learn to tame your stress. memorize the bene gesserit litany against fear or something, idk it actually worked for me
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meatpotato posted:holy gently caress they wanna give me an offer congrats meatpotato posted:an offer at 一家很大科技公司 您的figgies祝贺
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guys can you please stop quoting workplace microagression stymie ty
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Fiedler posted:i'm certain this is true for some tortured, narrow definition of "livable," but it's very misleading. it's more walkable, the public transit is better, taxes are much lower, wages are higher, and the spread between salaries and the cost of a house is smaller what other definitions of "livable" would you want
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