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Oct 20, 2018 18:38
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it is different but the military recruitment videos of pretty much every country in the world look reasonable compared to dystopian american ones all the UK ones are about how you can make friends and learn vital skills this one is particularly fitting for the thread rn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4OoPNY_YM
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Oct 20, 2018 19:00
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Joseance posted:all the UK ones are about how you can make friends and learn vital skills It's an interesting approach to have an atmosphere where anybody could be picked off at any time in your recruitment video.
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Oct 20, 2018 19:12
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No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both Mao and Deng.
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Oct 20, 2018 20:23
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Oh, dang. Yeah, it's a Derek Smart sort of thing.
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Oct 20, 2018 20:34
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do you guys think xi is hot
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Oct 20, 2018 20:40
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He looks like a particular bear and banned the film and all online talk about to but also that's just a rumour
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Oct 20, 2018 20:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbpwCJIlEA
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Oct 20, 2018 23:21
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:I didn't blow any whistle, it just so happened that at a later date, the Chinese government itself confirmed it was real, when he pretended it wasn't. It's not about owning him, it's about pointing out how cowardly Stalinists are. the government line was always rejecting the formulation of internment camps rather than the idea of reeducation. at the un they said minor offenders were given education in lieu of jail time. the only difference now is they're giving details on what the education process entails.
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Oct 20, 2018 23:47
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Interment in a camp is not the same as interment camps if a party cadre tells you your culture is garbage while you're there.
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Oct 20, 2018 23:53
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unironically re-education camps are different than internment camps.
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Oct 21, 2018 05:26
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only a million people in camps because they're muslim and splitting families apart like at the US border thats no big deal according to posters itt lol
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Oct 21, 2018 09:15
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Joseance posted:only a million people in camps because they're muslim and splitting families apart like at the US border thats no big deal according to posters itt lol fake!! news!!! binch!
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Oct 21, 2018 09:26
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interning a million people based on their religious identity is kinda like reeducating the capitalists after the revolution, except it's just done for different reasons
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Oct 21, 2018 10:14
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https://twitter.com/boes_/status/1053960416303341568
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Oct 21, 2018 12:08
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communism with chinese characteristics
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Oct 21, 2018 12:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKECiyIsq3I
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Oct 21, 2018 12:23
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almost like those statements are deliberately crafted for foreign consumption and the reality tells a different tale With Growth Sagging, China Shifts Back to Socialism
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Oct 21, 2018 12:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCVe-zY5NA
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Oct 21, 2018 13:21
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it's trot-adjacent analysis but a hell of a lot better than the usual Evil China stuff
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Oct 21, 2018 14:05
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R. Dieovich posted:it's trot-adjacent analysis but a hell of a lot better than the usual Evil China stuff quote:State capitalism would be a step forward as compared with the present state of affairs in our Soviet Republic. If in approximately six months’ time state capitalism became established in our Republic, this would be a great success and a sure guarantee that within a year socialism will have gained a permanently firm hold and will have become invincible in this country. quote:The state capitalism, which is one of the principal aspects of the New Economic Policy, is, under Soviet power, a form of capitalism that is deliberately permitted and restricted by the working class. Our state capitalism differs essentially from the state capitalism in countries that have bourgeois governments in that the state with us is represented not by the bourgeoisie, but by the proletariat, who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry.
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Oct 21, 2018 14:27
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's not really that trot i mean more in the presumption "state capitalism" is only really distinguishable from regular capitalism by its efficiency and results. the bureaucracy constituting a new ruling class follows pretty easily from that.
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Oct 21, 2018 15:01
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R. Dieovich posted:i mean more in the presumption "state capitalism" is only really distinguishable from regular capitalism by its efficiency and results. the bureaucracy constituting a new ruling class follows pretty easily from that.
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Oct 21, 2018 15:03
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my own tactics, used against me...no...no!!!!
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Oct 21, 2018 15:05
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R. Dieovich posted:my own tactics, used against me...no...no!!!! Welcome to the Communist party bihtc
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Oct 21, 2018 15:06
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Ghost of Mao please behead this loving reactionary
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Oct 21, 2018 17:17
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's not really that trot It actually is Trot-adjacent like he said because the idea that there's any daylight between Leninism and Trotskyism is a Stalinist lie.
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Oct 21, 2018 17:18
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's not really that trot quote:who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry. i loved it when that happened
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Oct 21, 2018 18:54
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the success of the Chinese socialist private sector is vital to the Chinese socialist state and thus the cause of international socialism
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Oct 22, 2018 06:17
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Wolff's take is actually pretty lame. USSR and China both only really started explosive growth once the states went for a sort of "primitive socialist accumulation", rapidly feeding peasants into the working class and enforcing a social austerity on the plebs to feed a larger portion of national resources to production of the means of production. So he just ignored how the USSR stagnated without recovery in sight once the accumulation period was over. Of course in China it is still underway and may not lead to stagnation since China has been able to build a high-tech capitalist sector that proves they have managed to at least partially build different dynamics than the USSR. Lenin's state capitalism is also a totally different beast from later USSR and China too, it as well as Mao's policy up to at least the GLF (instead of the peasant being ripped from the land, they would make pig iron as a side gig!) were meant to avoid this "primitive socialist accumulation" and instead develop an economy where the state leads peasants to modernize on their own terms and avoid alienating them. Wolff is using the leftcom state capitalism concept, specifically the proven incorrect by history kind where state capitalism is understood to be the most advanced kind of capitalism, much like trots also understood those countries to be one foot in capitalism, the other foot beyond capitalism basically. I think Wolff does this because he's like a marxist socdem at heart and wants to believe the state to be able to solve the problems of his co-op economy. uncop has issued a correction as of 07:14 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Oct 22, 2018 06:58
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this is cool and good https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1039944307933818881
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Oct 22, 2018 09:51
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"stealing and selling babies"?
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Oct 22, 2018 10:05
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just like what the US is doing currently after splitting kids from their parents and putting them up for adoption
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Oct 22, 2018 10:07
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Joseance posted:this is cool and good thats the guy who posted clips from a beer festival and said they were being forced to consume alcohol. you're entirely too gullible jose
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Oct 22, 2018 10:31
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Graphic posted:No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both Mao and Deng. dude nice av!
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Oct 22, 2018 11:16
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if you don't think the kids are being adopted out if they're young enough you're naive homex. or just refusing to admit the whole thing is completely monstrous because you can't abide criticism of the party https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-uighurs-human-rights-muslims-orphanages-xinjiang-province-reeducation-a8548341.html
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Oct 22, 2018 11:18
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Joseance posted:if you don't think the kids are being adopted out if they're young enough you're naive homex. or just refusing to admit the whole thing is completely monstrous because you can't abide criticism of the party parents abandoning their children in China after they emigrate to another country is not exactly 'stealing and selling babies'
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Oct 22, 2018 11:29
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A Typical Goon posted:parents abandoning their children in China after they emigrate to another country is not exactly 'stealing and selling babies' quote:Chinese authorities are putting the children of Uighurs and other ethnic minority groups into dozens of state-run orphanages across the western Xinjiang region even if their parents are not dead, as some 1 million adults in their families are sent to internment camps. gently caress you
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Oct 22, 2018 11:33
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A Typical Goon posted:parents abandoning their children in China after they emigrate to another country is not exactly 'stealing and selling babies' this is literally what people say about the american-born kids of our own interned minority population you loving idiot
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Oct 22, 2018 12:33
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defending a million people being sent to camps because of their religion, to own the libs
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Oct 22, 2018 12:49
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