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I mean these are games that deal with real world politics. It’s gonna come up. It’s not a bad thing either. Even if this one went weird.
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I don't mean to derail the thread, but the truth is iconoclasts did nothing wrong. Furthermore....
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Oct 21, 2018 16:08
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The Protestant or the Orthodox ones? e: or the video game
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Bad example the iconoclasts did do nothing wrong. It’s not their fault they lost and the winners decided to be pricks.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Oh no, a maximum 10 year sentence with an average of 5. What an awful inhumane system. A take hot enough to warm up someone freezing to death in a gulag.
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Oct 21, 2018 16:15
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i like maps
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Oct 21, 2018 16:28
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Been reading the roman/ancient history thread in ask/tell and I cant wait until Imperator is out.
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Just like the paradox thread to defend Carthaginian baby killers.
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Gamerofthegame posted:i like maps The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Graves > politically roman maps 
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Fintilgin posted:Just like the paradox thread to defend Carthaginian baby killers. why be upset, they were only roman babies
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Gamerofthegame posted:i like maps as a platonist i find this very offensive
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Agean90 posted:why be upset, they were only roman babies They actually weren't murdered, and furthermore they were murdered humanely
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I feel like y’all let the guy making GBS threads on iconalists go to easy. Leo III was a goddamn saint who did no wrong.
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Zombiepop posted:Been reading the roman/ancient history thread in ask/tell and I cant wait until Imperator is out. Who's everyone excited to play as besides the big boys in Imperator? I really want to try out a bunch of the Magna Graecia states, I think Massalia would be a really intriguing start.
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creamcorn posted:Who's everyone excited to play as besides the big boys in Imperator? I really want to try out a bunch of the Magna Graecia states, I think Massalia would be a really intriguing start. Is Massilia Magna Graecia? DIdn't that refer to the colonies in Southern Italy and Sicily? Anyway, I really want to play as Epirus and basically strange Rome in its crib before it even gets going. Also put heavy roleplay restrictions on myself for the entire run, only really go on war sprees if I get an appropriate ruler or the society changes in such a way as to justify that, and when I do go to war mostly subjugate and demand tribute rather than do outright conquest (unless I get some ruler who thinks he's Alexander come again), and in Italy mostly just ally and guarantee the Greek city states, with maybe establishing direct control if it should prove necessary or possible. It's going to be a world without Rome, and no replacement Rome either. Carthage might get to live, but I will attempt to protect the Greek states in Italy and Sicily against them. Then I am going to spend weeks of my precious time on Earth to transition the end state of the campaign to CK2 and continue playing that. Other than that insanity, I want to play as a Gallic tribe and if appropriate attempt to unite the country and become a regional or great power in Northern and Western Europe. Then Scythians/Sarmatians, though I guess we'll have to wait for a later DLC for engaging nomad mechanics.
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creamcorn posted:Who's everyone excited to play as besides the big boys in Imperator? I really want to try out a bunch of the Magna Graecia states, I think Massalia would be a really intriguing start.
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Randarkman posted:Is Massilia Magna Graecia? DIdn't that refer to the colonies in Southern Italy and Sicily? Massalia is Marseille, which started life as a Greek colony. Me, I'm going to unify the Celts into a continent-spanning empire and grind the civilised world into dust  Then, hmm. Somewhere in India, maybe. And the Etruscans? Maybe see what's going on in Illyria. The period's got a lot of potential for leading also-rans to greatness.
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Autonomous Monster posted:Massalia is Marseille, which started life as a Greek colony. Yeah, in Gaul.
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Oh, I misread you, sorry. Hmm. Magna Graecia wouldn't be a bad name for the entire Greek world outside of Greece. Except of course it's a Roman term for the bit that bordered them.
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I agree with him though that Massilia is pretty interesting. Though personally I am more interested in interacting with them and keeping them around playing as a Gaulish nation/tribe. I'm hoping there are some special interactions you can have with subjugated/tributary democracies and republics. Such as influencing elections by expending gold or promoting a certain faction, kind of like how the Persians meddled in Greek affairs (both their own subjects in Asia Minor and in Greece itself after being defeated in the Greco-Persian Wars), which might also justify making such interactions available to nations that have achieved the Great Power rank. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 21, 2018 |
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Oct 21, 2018 20:15
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Ofaloaf posted:I want to play as Capua or some other Italian state that's not Rome, and build a not-Roman Empire which is very close but not quite the same. The Reman Empire.
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Oct 21, 2018 20:19
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If Capua doesn't get a leader from house Batiatus i'm gonna be upset.
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Oct 21, 2018 20:26
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DrSunshine posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Graves > politically roman maps
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I want to play as Pontus
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Yep. Sadly I don't think you start with Pyrrhus as ruler due to the game's start date.
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Don Gato posted:I want to play as Pontus The title for the Imperator thread should totally be Imperator Rome: I want to play as loving Pontus
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creamcorn posted:Who's everyone excited to play as besides the big boys in Imperator? I really want to try out a bunch of the Magna Graecia states, I think Massalia would be a really intriguing start. 
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lol if you don't want to spread greco-buddhist culture to ireland
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Funky Valentine posted:The title for the Imperator thread should totally be Imperator Rome: I want to play as loving Pontus
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Autonomous Monster posted:Oh, I misread you, sorry.  Maybe. The origins of the term Megale Hellas/Magna Graecia are much disputed (fun ideological debates in 30s Italy contributed to this), but the earliest references are in a scholiast's note on Plato's Phaedrus which probably goes back to Timaeus, and in Polybius, and both of these explicitly reference Pythagoras, suggesting it may go way back into the 6th century, but *probably* is a Greek term
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Astroclassicist posted:
 Ovid refers to southern Italy as Magna Graecia in the poem Fasti, which was published in 8 CE, so the term's at least that old.
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Technowolf posted:
 Pythagoras lived in the 6th century BCE.
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My first game will be as Rome but my second and third are definitely going to be Parthia and one of the Indian states (maybe not respectively).
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I'll admit to always feeling a degree of affection for the city of Tarentum in southern Italy, because of always starting as the Brutii in Rome Total War.
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the india part of the map is gonna be interesting but also not really related to rome at all
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baw posted:the india part of the map is gonna be interesting but also not really related to rome at all india exists so that you can play out your alexander fantasies with one of the diadochi states also trade between roman egypt and india was a huge deal but i doubt that will be simulated, at least at launch
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Also calling it a "huge deal" is rather charitable. It happened, but it is flat out unknown to what extent, or how much of an impact it had on the Roman economy.
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Jazerus posted:india exists so that you can play out your alexander fantasies with one of the diadochi states Don't worry, simulation of India will extend as far as the Monarchy government type, which will also be shared with Germania and the Parthians.
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