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Ensign: Captain O'Brien, your orders? O'Brien: Commence scanning. Ensign: Initiated. Scan time estimated at sixty-three weeks. O'Brien: [sighs] confirmed. Ensign: Federation scientists are really going to dig into these data, sir! In a little over a year, that is. Congratulations! O'Brien: I'm changing the open drinking policy on the bridge as of now.
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Pick posted:Babylon 5 did it exceptionally well once it recovered from "Oh, not cancelled??" syndrome. The second half of Season 5 is as good as anything, with the follow-through on the Centauri Republic. Late series Lennier sucks a lot though
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Oct 21, 2018 22:17
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Tighclops posted:Late series Lennier sucks a lot though What? Why? He loves Delenn and he's so nice and helpful and Oh Oh.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:21
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:What? Why? He loves Delenn and he's so nice and helpful and Yeah but also, guys do do that. The Marcus content is more annoying imo.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:21
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Pick posted:I remember someone from this very forum going to a talk and asking a question on my behalf about Brave Little Toaster, to the writers, and the answer completely destroyed my love for the movie.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:26
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Inferior Third Season posted:You can't just leave us hanging like that. What was the question, and what did they say? I don't remember and I'm trying not to, because I want my brain to forget so I can go back to it in like 10 years.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:27
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Pick posted:Yeah but also, guys do do that. The Marcus content is more annoying imo. Yeah, I've always found the Marcus thing a little sketch.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:33
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I'm sure the answer is "yes, in way too much detail", but is wider Klingon society ever elaborated on? Because it can't all be shouty autistic dudes with anger issues. Someone has to take out the trash, figure out the science behind giant FTL starships, and operate transporters. None of that is particularly compatible with being a space-samurai on a self-destructive quest of personal glory. A society based mostly on yelling, recreational fistfights and fights to the death with silly knives wouldn't have formed agrarian societies, let alone left their homeworld. Maybe all the Klingons we see are some kind of warrior-caste upper class? Worf seems to be generally ok, but even he seems to be shaking with barely restrained fury and confusion most of the time. Geisladisk fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Oct 21, 2018 |
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Oct 21, 2018 23:24
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I don't really care about Klingons but yeah they have engineers and according to STO they collaborate with the Gorn for that also.
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Oct 21, 2018 23:30
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Worf is canonically Klingon nobility. His house was a Great House. It's probably a lot like the old British Empire, with the duels and stuff.
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They do it in the books I think, somebody posted that like a Klingon farmer sees his life as a battle against the soil and weather and scientists are battling ignorance or whatever.
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Grand Fromage posted:They do it in the books I think, somebody posted that like a Klingon farmer sees his life as a battle against the soil and weather and scientists are battling ignorance or whatever. me in a glorious battle against not enough shitposting
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Oct 21, 2018 23:33
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Geisladisk posted:I'm sure the answer is "yes, in way too much detail", but is wider Klingon society ever elaborated on? Because it can't all be shouty autistic dudes with anger issues. Someone has to take out the trash, figure out the science behind giant FTL starships, and operate transporters. None of that is particularly compatible with being a space-samurai on a self-destructive quest of personal glory. A society based mostly on yelling, recreational fistfights and fights to the death with silly knives wouldn't have formed agrarian societies, let alone left their homeworld.
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Not too much. There was the Enterprise episode where the Klingons put Archer on trial, and his lawyer complains to Archer about how the military class has, in his lifetime, taken over everything, and turned the legal system into kangaroo courts. In DS-9, theres the crew of the Rotarran, who start off as a bunch of misfits. There's also General Martok who tells his story about why he hates Kor....Martok was a peasant's son whose father dreamed he'd be an officer, but, even though Martok studied and was qualified to enter the military academy, Kor blackballed him, because Kor thought he was of too low birth to be an officer, and with Kor blackballing him, he couldn't even enlist, so he had to work on a civilian freighter, until he saved the ship in a spectacular way, and his heroism got him a spot in the military. Of course, by that point, his father had died, and Martok never forgave Kor for not letting him make his father proud. Other than those hints about non-noble, non-military Klingons, we don't see much about them.
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Geisladisk posted:Someone has to take out the trash, figure out the science behind giant FTL starships, and operate transporters. Someone hasn’t heard of Maltz. For shame! matlh! jol yIchu!
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Geisladisk posted:A society based mostly on yelling, recreational fistfights and fights to the death with silly knives wouldn't have formed agrarian societies Yet Prussia somehow figured it out.
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Oct 22, 2018 01:30
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Sash! posted:Yet Prussia somehow figured it out. they had sleepy food
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Pick posted:Yeah but also, guys do do that. The Marcus content is more annoying imo. aaaa gently caress I forgot about marcus and how much he sucks gently caress now I remember
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Tighclops posted:aaaa gently caress I forgot about marcus and how much he sucks i apologize for this
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Powered Descent posted:Alternate, comedy answer: a clapped-out old Miranda or Oberth that's always breaking down and should have been scrapped years ago, but is still limping along in active service because so many newer ships got blown up by the Borg and/or Dominion.  Pick posted:I don't really care about Klingons but yeah they have engineers and according to STO they collaborate with the Gorn for that also. More than that, Gorn are the "science" race for the Klingon Empire in STO, a la the Vulcans with the UFP.
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I love the Gorn and I want them to be my friends, Gornily. Like they're probably chill & smart and normal. Polite at house parties.
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I thought the Gorn weren't a race and that one thing Kirk fought was called "the gorn" not "a gorn"
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LividLiquid posted:I thought the Gorn weren't a race and that one thing Kirk fought was called "the gorn" not "a gorn" They're a race and they have their own government and territory, the Gorn Hedgemony. They show up a lot less than you'd expect for anything even remotely touched upon in TOS, maybe because their skirts are too short.
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LividLiquid posted:I thought the Gorn weren't a race and that one thing Kirk fought was called "the gorn" not "a gorn" The reason Kirk was fighting the Gorn captain was because its ship had wiped out the Earth colony that had been established in Gorn space. So, the Metrons took an interest, and seeing the Enterprise and Gorn ship ready to fight, grabbed Kirk and the Gorn captain and made them fight one on one.
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Epicurius posted:The reason Kirk was fighting the Gorn captain was because its ship had wiped out the Earth colony that had been established in Gorn space. So, the Metrons took an interest, and seeing the Enterprise and Gorn ship ready to fight, grabbed Kirk and the Gorn captain and made them fight one on one. Yeah there's no reason to assume the Gorn are even naturally warlike. That's half the point of the episode even. Of course I'm sure beta canon did other stupid poo poo that deflated that, idk.
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Zurui posted:I have a burning need for a Trek version of Down Periscope. We got a taste of this in "Peak Performance" but yeah, that would be really fun.
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I feel like DS9 would have been the one to do a proper Down Periscope sendup. Like Soldiers of the Empire but funnier.
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Oct 22, 2018 03:31
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O'Brien gets a tattoo on his wiener.
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Oct 22, 2018 03:39
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Pick posted:O'Brien gets a tattoo on his wiener of a bigger weiner.
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Oct 22, 2018 03:50
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*Morbo voice* tattoos do not work that way!!
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Pick posted:*Morbo voice* tattoos do not work that way!! Pick, are you forgetting about cock-ran fields? 
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Pick posted:*Morbo voice* tattoos do not work that way!! It's not a toy! It's a scale model
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Jean-luc... you smashed your little dick.
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Somehow this manages to cross The Orville, Discovery, and TNG. Patrick Stewart voiced a tardigrade on "Family Guy" tonight.
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Moriatti posted:If you were to run a Star Trek RPG set in the 24th century, what class ship would you put the PCs in and why? A refit Galaxy Class because it's the best-looking ship of the era and is basically a traveling space station.
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Pick posted:Yeah there's no reason to assume the Gorn are even naturally warlike. That's half the point of the episode even. Of course I'm sure beta canon did other stupid poo poo that deflated that, idk. Well, I mean, their first reaction to "alien colony in our space" is "destroy it", which doesn't suggest they're sweetness and light. They're better than the aliens in the short story the episode is based on, though. That being said, the Gorn don't get a lot of attention in beta canon. Like people who know more about Star Trek Online said, Star Trek Online has them conquered by the Klingons and becoming a tributary/puppet. The place they get the most attention is probably Star Fleet Battles/Starfleet Universe, where they have playable ships. In case anybody doesn't know, Star Fleet Battles was a board game from 1979, where players commanded ships belonging to various Star Trek races in tactical battles. They expanded the whole thing, and eventually an RPG came out of it, called Prime Directive, and generally developed like the Klingons and Romulans in ways different than the main Star Trek canon did. Anyway, yeah, Gorn tend to get short shrift in the betaverse, just showing up in a few comics.
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That Captain Ezri on the DS9 doc “Season 8” implies that they’re not doing “what if another season of DS9 was made in the 90s”, but rather “what if another season of DS9 was made right now”. Which means they’re basically pitching a revival. That seems like one 1) probably a bad idea, as much as I love DS9, and 2) absolutely never going to happen anyway, seriously, come on. Also, season 5 of Babylon 5 is loving dire, even by B5 standards. That episode where all the dead people come back and the one that’s a rip off of Lower Decks are two of the most offensively bad episodes of TV I’ve ever watched.
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Season 5 of B5 is two distinct parts. The first half is what was put together at the last minute when they got uncancelled and it shows. The second half is what was intended and excellent. Though if those two episodes are among the worst TV you've ever seen boy do I have some things to show you.
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I like Day of the Dead. It had a lot of good character moments, and didn't make the mistake of trying to over-explain everything. But, yeah, View from the Gallery was trash. It was a fun concept ruined by the weird hero-worship moments. It's one of B5's weird things, how on the one hand you have great flawed characters like Londo and G'Kar and Bester, but then with Delenn and Sheridan the show goes out of its way to paint them as perfect saints and keeps setting up straw-men to attack them just to demonstrate how fantastic they're meant to be.
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