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Nolgthorn posted:Rockstar is quite rightly afraid of the millennial pc trend because they've spend an inordinate amount of money producing their games and it would be a shame for a dog pile to occur over something so stupid as political correctness. We're talking about thousands of people's jobs. They've spoken fairly openly about it. I wouldn't see a lot to be gained from an extended Wolfenstein 2-style KKK massacre sequence. White males with serious toxic masculinity issues are sadly still the loudest voice in the game industry. I badly want to see more representation in gaming, and I enjoy modern day social commentary in my games, but developers are rightly afraid to touch that stuff because the push back is furious and relentless. Whenever a game does attempt this, they are there to scream about how games should only have a white straight male point of view and nothing else. And their voices completely drown out anything else out there.
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I said come in! posted:White males with serious toxic masculinity issues are sadly still the loudest voice in the ftfy
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True, it was just easier to tackle this one small section of the world.
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I said come in! posted:White males with serious toxic masculinity issues are sadly still the loudest voice in the game industry. I badly want to see more representation in gaming, and I enjoy modern day social commentary in my games, but developers are rightly afraid to touch that stuff because the push back is furious and relentless. Whenever a game does attempt this, they are there to scream about how games should only have a white straight male point of view and nothing else. And their voices completely drown out anything else out there. Um. Waht planet is this coming from
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Nolgthorn posted:Um. Waht planet is this coming from Do you not pay attention at all to social media?
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Nolgthorn posted:Um. Waht planet is this coming from Its probably a copy paste from ResetERA. Just ignore him he's a troll.
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Nolgthorn posted:Rockstar is quite rightly afraid of the millennial pc trend because they've spend an inordinate amount of money producing their games and it would be a shame for a dog pile to occur over something so stupid as political correctness. We're talking about thousands of people's jobs. They've spoken fairly openly about it. I wouldn't see a lot to be gained from an extended Wolfenstein 2-style KKK massacre sequence. That's just chicken poo poo centrist stances right there. Hausers put up a veneer of "we're make fun of EVERYONE" but more often than not they punch down. Trump's America makes it harder to punch down because they marginalized groups have no or little representation and many are on the brink of losing protections that give them the rights to exist. So they'd have to, goodness forbid, start punching up at worthless Republicans who hate everyone not white, rich and male, neo-nazi nationalists, corporate scumbags and other parasites bleeding society by influencing policy to take more and more from those who barely have enough. They're simply far-right drifters who passively enable the horrible poo poo going on without challenging it with argument or humor. And no, those strawmen tumblr ULTRA PC POLICE aren't the same as white nationalists marching in the street chanting nazi rhetoric, advocating violence against minorities and beating up/murdering counter-protestors.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:It’s post reconstruction by about 25 to 30 years. It’s more middle late gilded age plus I never expected rockstar to tackle or go after the racial issues in any big or meaningful way, this isn’t mafia 3. Right, Australian so my knowledge of US history can be fuzzy on the details. My point I guess was more they decided to wade into situations involving plantations and poo poo so it's fair to give them poo poo for loving it up. Like yeah I'm not expecting them to deal with racial issues, but they kinda chose to anyway and didn't do it great by reports. Shoehead posted:It's really sad that that is a step up, but god drat GTA V was miserable. It didn't help me that I was going through a really tough time in my life and I couldn't deal with how incredibly horrible every single character was in single player V. (Except Lamar, he was solid) Hentai Jihadist posted:hey! another lamar fan, yeah he was legit the only good character in that whole game. Man GTAV was terrible with its characters. Someone up thread asked who wouldn't do the death wish ending. Me. Cause after that game I just needed one of those fuckers to die (Michael BTW Trevor at least had his moments). Protagonists don't need to be good people, but if you want me to play as them for that loving long they better be likeable. Protagonists you hate only really work in short games where you don't burn out. Like Silent Hill 2. Also yeah Lamar was like the only consistently good bit of that game's writing. Dapper_Swindler posted:my biggest issue with 5 and to a greater extent 4 and even red dead 1 was that everyone talked like they written were by rod serling if he were alot more cynical. everyone can make deep insitful long winded remarks about society, humanity, etc in long passionate way. and it got old and weird fast. and i have a soft spot for that kinda poo poo. Rod Serlings generous. I'd say it's South Park with the saving grace that the Rockstar doesn't run a creepy rear end libertarian bent.
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I said come in! posted:White males with serious toxic masculinity issues are sadly still the loudest voice in the game industry. I badly want to see more representation in gaming, and I enjoy modern day social commentary in my games, but developers are rightly afraid to touch that stuff because the push back is furious and relentless. Whenever a game does attempt this, they are there to scream about how games should only have a white straight male point of view and nothing else. And their voices completely drown out anything else out there. Hell yeah bro but how do you feel about the shrinking horse balls
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I said come in! posted:White males with serious toxic masculinity issues are sadly still the loudest voice in the game industry. I badly want to see more representation in gaming, and I enjoy modern day social commentary in my games, but developers are rightly afraid to touch that stuff because the push back is furious and relentless. Whenever a game does attempt this, they are there to scream about how games should only have a white straight male point of view and nothing else. And their voices completely drown out anything else out there. does it actually have any effect though? They're certainly the loudest, especially on Steam which has become some kind of deeply infested cesspit thanks to Valve's terrible libertarian management style. You mentioned total war earlier and its really noticeable that Total War Centre forums are now considerably better than Steam's own community when it comes to bigotry and fascism which used to go hand in hand with map-game communities. That suggests to me the only communities those voices are really strong are in niche ones without moderation. Is there any evidence it actually translates to boycotts and lost sales though?
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GTA 6 is almost certainly being worked on in secret, it will come out well into next console cycle, clickbait writers will hem and haw, and it’ll sell more than GTA 5 anyway because nobody outside of the very online crowd cares about sensitivity in rockstar titles.
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Over There posted:Hell yeah bro but how do you feel about the shrinking horse balls horse balls are amazing, even more so when shrinking.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Is there any evidence it actually translates to boycotts and lost sales though? To be fair, i'm not sure. It's really hard to tell without more data directly from publishers, who are never willing to release that kind of information nowadays.
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bloodysabbath posted:GTA 6 is almost certainly being worked on in secret, it will come out well into next console cycle, clickbait writers will hem and haw, and it’ll sell more than GTA 5 anyway because nobody outside of the very online crowd cares about sensitivity in rockstar titles. I heard the new Bully game is what they're working on but I can't remember where.
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I guess what im getting at is that if anything those kinds of "scandals" seem to push sales of games, not result in lost sales. So rockstar's stance just seems apathetic at best or reactionary at worst. Kinda like when blizz had their own minor scandal where it was pointed out all their female characters were basically stripper wives or sexy monsters and they said "we dont think about that, we don't want to be political" before getting a crash course in "that's a loving political stance, you morons,"
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Jimbot posted:That's just chicken poo poo centrist stances right there. Hausers put up a veneer of "we're make fun of EVERYONE" but more often than not they punch down. Trump's America makes it harder to punch down because they marginalized groups have no or little representation and many are on the brink of losing protections that give them the rights to exist. So they'd have to, goodness forbid, start punching up at worthless Republicans who hate everyone not white, rich and male, neo-nazi nationalists, corporate scumbags and other parasites bleeding society by influencing policy to take more and more from those who barely have enough. This is a great resetera copy paste, link to the thread please? Seriously though, GTA has taken the piss out of everyone. The game you’re describing is the Postal series. Rookie mistake. E: New Bully would be goddamn ace.
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Well there are reactionaries already making GBS threads their pants over 3.5/5 reviews, so gamer's gonna cry.
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Shoehead posted:Someone mentioned trying to run the companion app on a pc, Imma try that and report back whenever the android app is out (midnight?) and report back. My laptop screen is a lot nicer than my phone's Much appreciated Muchacho
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A Sometimes Food posted:Right, Australian so my knowledge of US history can be fuzzy on the details. My point I guess was more they decided to wade into situations involving plantations and poo poo so it's fair to give them poo poo for loving it up. Like yeah I'm not expecting them to deal with racial issues, but they kinda chose to anyway and didn't do it great by reports. i mean the style more then the content. it apes him loving hard. but it never captures the raw spirit and honest harshness/spirited meaness. The Masks captures how that poo poo is done right. i mean plantations existed and still do but then it was just under payed workers/tenant farmers(who were usually ex slaves). Hentai Jihadist posted:does it actually have any effect though? They're certainly the loudest, especially on Steam which has become some kind of deeply infested cesspit thanks to Valve's terrible libertarian management style. no. most of the loud chud types won't buy the game anyway, much like their ideological opposite/betters, the angry resetera john mcintosh type liberal type, they are just a overly vocal widely numerically inflated minority they will shout and scream about how they will boycott and poo poo and then they will go onto hating something else. Jimbot posted:That's just chicken poo poo centrist stances right there. Hausers put up a veneer of "we're make fun of EVERYONE" but more often than not they punch down. Trump's America makes it harder to punch down because they marginalized groups have no or little representation and many are on the brink of losing protections that give them the rights to exist. So they'd have to, goodness forbid, start punching up at worthless Republicans who hate everyone not white, rich and male, neo-nazi nationalists, corporate scumbags and other parasites bleeding society by influencing policy to take more and more from those who barely have enough. they punch republicans a loving ton in the GTA games, its just they are also really easy targets. also this isn't resetera.
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Crabtree posted:Well there are reactionaries already making GBS threads their pants over 3.5/5 reviews, so gamer's gonna cry. the review wasn't even bad though. like i don't fully agree with it but it wasn't that wrong.
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I said come in! posted:Do you not pay attention at all to social media? No
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Hentai Jihadist posted:I guess what im getting at is that if anything those kinds of "scandals" seem to push sales of games, not result in lost sales. they definitely have a libertarian slant and i can kinda understand it, i mean they were the big target during the early 2000s when the libs and the conservatives teamed up to bitch about morality and poo poo.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the review wasn't even bad though. like i don't fully agree with it but it wasn't that wrong. The people complaining only paid attention to the review score.
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canepazzo posted:It was Saints Row: The Third's biggest (only) failure where you had to choose whether to fight the big bad or save your homie at the end. Oh poo poo, I had forgotten all about that. Because who wouldn't save their homie? The really tough choice in that game was choosing to have either a bus full of zombies or Burt loving Reynolds as a summonable sidekick. I always rolled with the zombies, but not having Burt loving Reynolds available as well was a hole in my soul. Starks posted:So the consensus seems to be: great open world, bad story and writing, good gameplay I watched a couple of hours of an early sneaky livestream. The gunfights looked like RDR, which is the only good open world shooting Rockstar's ever had, so I'm happy. The characters... eh, a couple of OTT accents aside, every single one of them sounded the same, couldn't tell who was speaking half the time they were so interchangeable. They all still talk in that overly stilted and wordy manner, and are the same handful of Rockstar stock characters. Morgan seems way less interesting or personable than Marsten though, which is a worry as Marsten was one of the few decently interesting people in RDR, and even then wasted on a story where 95% of the actual good stuff happened offscreen.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:what the hell is resetera? its a the bastard child of Neogaf when popped out when it died. basically they are super liberal/progressive internet types who get angry and poo poo quick, outside of that, its an alright site. I said come in! posted:The people complaining only paid attention to the review score. people are morons. i mean the polygon review said the same stuff but liked some of how the game handled some of the stuff. its opinions and it depends on the authors like i am sure waypoint will be negative if its austin "why didn't they call me a racial slur in the video game" walker" or patrick "i change my opinion if resetera or my friends tell me to" kleppec because i know what they like and hate. same with other shits Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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bloodysabbath posted:This is a great resetera copy paste, link to the thread please? Rockstar games are absolutely terrible about a lot of things like female characters; I think there's literally one named female in GTAV that isn't a crazy screaming harpy, nagging bitch or a stripper, and the two that are in RDR1 are both hopelessly in love with some guy that doesn't like them back and have to be rescued over and over again. Like, I know you could say they parody everyone but usually there's at least a few calm, cool collected male characters who are just your generally likable badass protagonist or straight-man. It's not enough to hinder my enjoyment but I could see a lady playing it roll her eyes as we're introduced to 'screaming unlikable bitch #4'. That could also not be the case in RDR2 as the reviews suggest it's a bit more thoughtful and expansive than its predecessors but we'll see 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:they punch republicans a loving ton in the GTA games, its just they are also really easy targets. also this isn't resetera. Dapper_Swindler posted:its a the bastard child of Neogaf when popped out when it died. basically they are super liberal/progressive internet types who get angry and poo poo quick, outside of that, its an alright site. Goodness forbid people point out problematic and outright bad things in a game or attitude the lead writers/owners of a video game company have. Must be pretty swell having the privilege to be apathetic towards these sort of things.
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Jimbot posted:Goodness forbid people point out problematic and outright bad things in a game or attitude the lead writers/owners of a video game company have. Must be pretty swell having the privilege to be apathetic towards these sort of things. It is pretty loving awesome.
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DogonCrook posted:Yeah it kicks rear end. Mid 20fps gameplay that is pretty blurry.
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DogonCrook posted:Hows the regular xbone version? Sub 900p and the worst performance of the four versions, but apparently outside the bigger towns it still holds 30fps pretty steadily. It does look strikingly worse than all the other versions, but if that's the only console you have then it's still apparently perfectly playable and enjoyable.
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the Kotaku review is a work of artKotaku posted:“It is defiantly slow-paced, exuberantly unfun, and wholly unconcerned with catering to the needs or wants of its players. It is also captivating, poignant, and at times shockingly entertaining. It moves with the clumsy heaviness of a 19th century locomotive, but like that locomotive becomes unstoppable once it builds up a head of steam. Whether intentionally or not, its tale of failure and doom reflects the tribulations of its own creation, as a charismatic and self-deluded leader tries ever more desperately to convince his underlings to follow him off a cliff.” https://kotaku.com/red-dead-redemption-2-the-kotaku-review-1829984369
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Wolfsheim posted:Rockstar games are absolutely terrible about a lot of things like female characters; I think there's literally one named female in GTAV that isn't a crazy screaming harpy, nagging bitch or a stripper, and the two that are in RDR1 are both hopelessly in love with some guy that doesn't like them back and have to be rescued over and over again. Like, I know you could say they parody everyone but usually there's at least a few calm, cool collected male characters who are just your generally likable badass protagonist or straight-man. yeah, it seems they have done a much better job with Red dead 2 this time around, least from what i heard and hope for. Jimbot posted:Goodness forbid people point out problematic and outright bad things in a game or attitude the lead writers/owners of a video game company have. Must be pretty swell having the privilege to be apathetic towards these sort of things. oh gently caress off. don't bitch to me about apathy because a i dont cares about Houser's bullshit writings because he makes some lovely jokes in a video game in the real world while the current crop of GOP ghouls actually gently caress over minorities of every stripe and some loving MAGAChud is trying to be Ted Kaczynski and the president blames everyone but himself. thats the real scary poo poo. not some lovely cynical writings by a liberterian clown in a crime game.
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