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Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

Foodahn posted:

Is meem just beem that automatically joins your chat? Is there a way to ignore one or the other on CBRO? I don't need both of them responding at the same time to my noobish questions. Also, I haven't played this game in a long time and the lack of purp is really really really aggravating.

update on this: meem is a beem ripoff made by noted insane person malcom rose, who is very upset that gammafunk banned him from using cerebot and as such made a weird beem ripoff that shills his cryptocurrency website. he runs a secret discord where he and other insane victim complex people complain about evil discord mods and the injustices they do, when theyre not posting about how they could totally use their bot to spam other servers with child porn. prominent members also enjoy tweeting about how it's important for websites to allow white nationalists to hang out and chat, in order to lead to Logical Discussions.

anyway, you can make it unfollow you by typing !unsubscribemeem. y'know, if for some reason you wouldn't want to be associated with it. for some reason.

e: it's !quitmeem now i guess

Kobold Sex Tape fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Oct 28, 2018

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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Victory Position posted:

I would probably never play it, but worshipping Jiyva from the get-go does sound fun and frustrating as all hell

fuel for a rework

e:



i think you ll find that it was actually incredibly important that i posted this here

Tollymain fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Oct 28, 2018

Hyedum
Jun 12, 2010

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

update on this: meem is a beem ripoff made by noted insane person malcom rose, who is very upset that gammafunk banned him from using cerebot and as such made a weird beem ripoff that shills his cryptocurrency website. he runs a secret discord where he and other insane victim complex people complain about evil discord mods and the injustices they do, when theyre not posting about how they could totally use their bot to spam other servers with child porn. prominent members also enjoy tweeting about how it's important for websites to allow white nationalists to hang out and chat, in order to lead to Logical Discussions.

anyway, you can make it unfollow you by typing !unsubscribemeem. y'know, if for some reason you wouldn't want to be associated with it. for some reason.

Thank you for making me aware of this story-line I did not know existed, because everything about it seems loving hilarious. Why does crawl attract the most bizarre drama?

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
thats not weird thats just 2018

Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

guess i should mention it even though it's weird discord drama but the server in question is titled somethign like FreeDCSS, and theyre like actively inviting random people they see in other roguelikes discords so probably don't click that unless you wanna see some Totally Epic Alt Right Bullshit about how it's actually pretty easy to build bombs you guys, and how cops wont gently caress around with Armed Killers. pretty cool time for my new to roguelikes friend to join a roguelikes discord and get a random-rear end invite to hellworld, btw!!

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Kobold Sex Tape posted:

update on this: meem is a beem ripoff made by noted insane person malcom rose, who is very upset that gammafunk banned him from using cerebot and as such made a weird beem ripoff that shills his cryptocurrency website. he runs a secret discord where he and other insane victim complex people complain about evil discord mods and the injustices they do, when theyre not posting about how they could totally use their bot to spam other servers with child porn. prominent members also enjoy tweeting about how it's important for websites to allow white nationalists to hang out and chat, in order to lead to Logical Discussions.

anyway, you can make it unfollow you by typing !unsubscribemeem. y'know, if for some reason you wouldn't want to be associated with it. for some reason.

Jesus, I came across that guy's youtube channel a while ago. The guy's been posting very lengthy gameplay videos every single day and is apparently some kind of autistic wizard at this game. Then I realized he was hawking bitcoin stuff on the side and that weirded me out. And now I guess he's a Nazi as well? I mean, I can't really act surprised here can I?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6JhJP-2-0P-gVuLIcvkcIw

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Oct 28, 2018

Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

icantfindaname posted:

Jesus, I came across that guy's youtube channel a while ago. The guy's been posting very lengthy gameplay videos every single day and is apparently some kind of autistic wizard at this game. Then I realized he was hawking bitcoin stuff on the side and that weirded me out. And now I guess he's a Nazi as well? I mean, I can't really act surprised here can I?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6JhJP-2-0P-gVuLIcvkcIw

to be fair to psycho gamer malcolm rose i legitimately can't tell if he's a nazi first and foremost or if his brain was broken from getting banned from cerebot after he accidentally ddos'd a crawl server and now he thinks any moderation at all is evil and thus it's totally cool to just let transphobes hang around his server, and that it's Immoral to ban anti-semites who dig up streamers' real last names and put echo signals on em. truly a mystery for the ages.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
what is/was their irc username

oh ew the only entry i can find for them on the learndb is an invite link to their discord server. somebody scrub that

Tollymain fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Oct 28, 2018

Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

Tollymain posted:

what is/was their irc username

oh ew the only entry i can find for them on the learndb is an invite link to their discord server. somebody scrub that

dunno his irc username, but here's a fun reddit comment thread with him if you want to read that bit of fun, and his twitter is mostly just him shilling his own crypto links and retweeting people that think it's bad that they removed alex jones from twitter. the weirder poo poo about the bots and and all that is mostly from the company he keeps in his weird discord

e: in the interest of fairness to malcolm and also this is gonna be the last i post about this lame drama poo poo he chatted me up to explain some stuff or w/e you can read it if you really want but tl;dr he's not transphobic or w/e he just lets them hang out and post that stuff or what ever https://pastebin.com/JHhZWE7r believe what you will about all this, i still advise not joining the server

Kobold Sex Tape fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Oct 28, 2018

Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

Gooncrawl update: spent most of the weekend playing crossworld Ocarina of Time randomizer with a friend, so didn't make much progress on permabuffs again (sorry!). Did more pull requests instead:
-Merged Jester class (courtesy of Metoron!), which is an ex-worshipper of Xom who now follows Nemelex Xobeh and starts with multiple pies. Do not go down on the clown or the clown will go down on you.
-I broke Harp of Healing by accidentally turning the Evocations scaling down to 0, so I fixed that to actually be 0.75 per Evo level. Whoops!

Thalamas
Dec 5, 2003

Sup?
Does J. Jacques of Questionable Content play Dungeon Crawl?

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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
this isnt the first time crawls been referenced by hipster marmaduke

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


cehu

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

LearnDB posted:

#centaur unreasons:
You'll die more from boredom than from actual danger.

Mordekai
Sep 6, 2006

Salt in the wound eases the soul.
First 15 runer done! GrFi of TSO. With Yermak in the chat egging me on!

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



So I used to play this game a lot and I come back from time to time. I'm in the middle of a GnSk/Ash game and the sheer quantity of options is giving me some serious analysis paralysis, normally when I wanted to go for a spell like Haste or something I knew what I needed to invest to get it but when I can do literally anything I don't know what to do.

Current dump

Some random questions:
There's a Trove that wants a +4 SDA, I assume I still have a reasonable chance of finding a Storm Dragon on V:$ and if not there, in Depths?
Since I'm worshipping Ash, I can't exactly swap around gear to see how it affects my casting for free; should I try to go into some sort of ego plate/dragon armour? I only have 8 EA scrolls available atm and if 4 of them are earmarked for the trove, it seems not quite worth.
Other than Blink and Silence, are there any spells I should be on the lookout for? I was pretty impressed by Confuse in one of my previous runs since I had way more Hexes than I'm used to for obvious reasons but this seems a little late to memorize it considering lategame MR.
I have a Scarf of Resistance, is that better than generic +2 Cloak? Probably, right?
I have access to a permanent bazaar, when should I go in?
Which weapons should I hang on to? I'm thinking all my current ones except maybe my demon trident, since usually I don't bother to micromanage to that extent anymore? On a related note, are caster staves still good melee weapons? If they are a gnoll seems like a natural fit.
Other options for amulet right now are the amulet of Peklyilo {rN+ Regen+ Str+2} and the amulet of Psychosis {Reflect Dex+6 SH+3} (670 gold), any thoughts? I want to keep it and a ring cursed for those sweet, sweet skill boosts. Also having trouble figuring out which ring I want to keep locked on.
Which evokables are good? I've never really played around with them much.

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID
Would Chei be a good God for a GnSk given their ability to do anything so the stat boosts helping out pretty much everything?

Mystery Prize
Nov 7, 2010
Continuing my run of 15-runing a Chaos Knight of every race, here's my latest conquest

I didn't find statue form until I was like level 21, and it effortlessly carried me through the rest of the game.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

ashkenzari on a gnoll seems a bit odd

"hmm, i've got a character whose greatest strength is their ability to do anything, better lock it down to specific equipment"

chei strikes me as decent for them, with the usual chei drawbacks

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

ashkenzari on a gnoll seems a bit odd

"hmm, i've got a character whose greatest strength is their ability to do anything, better lock it down to specific equipment"

chei strikes me as decent for them, with the usual chei drawbacks

Ash is strong for magicky types that dip into many different skills, especially for gnolls since her skill boosts scale with aptitudes

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



So I chose Ash under the logic that you don't really hotswap armour anyway and while I haven't played her much, just having a slot or two open seems nice in general anyway to mess with your resistances/damage types. In addition, she raises all of my spellcasting/armour skills and I actually want all of them anyway.

I've actually been pretty happy with her so far even without the cursed weapon, she lets me do things like cast Ring of Fire in chain mail without using wizardry or subjecting me to Chei.

E: Now I have Arga too how do I choose which good weapons to use

Elyv fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Oct 29, 2018

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
The best benefit of Ash IMO is innate clarity. I'd put up with a lot of poo poo to never have to deal with confusion again .

Mordekai
Sep 6, 2006

Salt in the wound eases the soul.
Ash is great for gnolls. Clarity plus super skill boosts. Just find as many spells as you can.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gnolls really like their generalist kinda gods

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Made it to the Orc mines as a Gnoll, I mostly stabbed stuff with a poison dagger then cast blade hands or alternated between force lance and throwing poo poo. Had trouble building up good defenses and got greedy in a fight with an iron troll. It's an awesome idea for a roguelike character.

Herbotron
Feb 25, 2013

I've also been having a ton of fun splatting gnolls. It's very hard to play anything else.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
I really don't like Ash with Gnolls (not that I've ever ascended one!). To me, the appeal of the character is being able to swap to whatever cool poo poo just dropped on the floor, which is kind of hard to do when all your gear is cursed. Or you could not curse your weapon&shield, but then why are you playing Ash? Oka, despite being a huge bore, generally gives much better results. Even helps remove penalties for spellcasting! But then you're playing Oka. Lose/lose.

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah, the boost to spells as Ash was cool, but when I started finding new weapons and armor it was kind of a pain. You don't get enough remove curse scrolls to freely change equipment any more.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire
I haven't played this in ages! Decided to boot it up on a whim



Okawaru was kind to me


e:
In fact this whole run is just bonkers

Poulpe fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Nov 3, 2018

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Inb4 you splat in V5.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'm finally trying gnolls. Gnolls are good and fun. I have nothing else to comment on.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

PMush Perfect posted:

Inb4 you splat in V5.


:smug:

Also found me some nice +Riposte gloves to double up on my minotaur horns!
(But yeah I almost died out of hubris like twice, thank goodness for evokable blinking!)

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Does +riposte work on anything other than Long Blades?

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

I'm pretty sure those fencing gloves give every weapon the ability to riposte like long blades.

Is there an updated webtiles version of goon crawl? When I looked at CBRO it seemed to be an old version still.

SlyFrog
May 16, 2007

What? One name? Who are you, Seal?
Just started playing this again for the first time in a while. I've only ascended the easiest of easy characters (Minotaur Beserkers basically), but now I have a promising Gargoyle Earth Elementalist going (XL 24 - I have two runes and am clearing out the Depths after having done all but the last levels of Elf and Vaults too).

But a question arises - did they like get rid of most or all of the RandArts? Because the only white weapons, armor, and jewelry I'm seeing all look like they're pre-designed, and not random.

If so, why the gently caress did they do that? RandArts (and the possibility of finding something truly badass) were one of the best parts of the game. I don't want to find a bunch of stuff with mega-powers but also clearly calculated drawbacks (like this Majin-Bo I found this game). I want to the chance of finding something randomly awesome without a bunch of contrived balancing drawbacks, drat it.

Or maybe I'm just imagining all of this, they're still in there, and I just haven't found any?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
It's almost guaranteed that the artifacts you have are randarts you're mistaking for unrands

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Einwand posted:

I'm pretty sure those fencing gloves give every weapon the ability to riposte like long blades.

Is there an updated webtiles version of goon crawl? When I looked at CBRO it seemed to be an old version still.

https://x-crawl.de/ seems to be pretty up-to-date. More so than CBRO at least.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

World Famous W posted:

I'm finally trying gnolls. Gnolls are good and fun. I have nothing else to comment on.

Nice summary of this thread and 2/3rds of the last one

Teal
Feb 25, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

tote up a bags posted:

Nice summary of this thread and 2/3rds of the last one

so is it a too radical thought to ponder if there isn't something wrong with the skill system when a lot of people find the game a lot more fun when it's just gone?

I'm not even thinking about removing it period, just maybe somehow making it less... that's the problem, I can't really figure out what exactly bothers me about it, but I do feel like something can be improved

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Heithinn Grasida
Mar 28, 2005

...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

Serephina posted:

I really don't like Ash with Gnolls (not that I've ever ascended one!). To me, the appeal of the character is being able to swap to whatever cool poo poo just dropped on the floor, which is kind of hard to do when all your gear is cursed. Or you could not curse your weapon&shield, but then why are you playing Ash? Oka, despite being a huge bore, generally gives much better results. Even helps remove penalties for spellcasting! But then you're playing Oka. Lose/lose.

I played a gnsk of Ash and found it very strong and generally fun. The biggest problem with Ash is the weak early game, but gnolls are brutally strong early, especially as hybrid backgrounds, so right around the time the gnoll advantage starts to run out, there's a good chance you've picked up the skill boost from Ash.

I cursed pretty much everything and didn't regret it. I did make the super boring choice of going for a longbow as my cursed weapon, though. Longbows are still almost certainly the strongest weapon type in the game and gnolls of Ash are very well positioned to use them. Ammo is only limited early, but unlike other ranged characters, your melee is just as good as your ranged skill. By the time you have lots of arrows and a longbow, you have the skill boost from Ash and can curse your weapon. Longbows fall off late, but by then you have lots of spells and evocations to make up for it. It's not hard to find a longbow fairly early, and for a gnoll, it's almost always going to be the best possible target for enchant weapon scrolls when you find one. If you do find an amazing artifact, just burn a scroll and switch.

On the negative side, what I just described is sort of optimal, boring play. If you don't want to go for a longbow every single time you find one, or if you can't find one early, you'll have a worse time. And by mid-late game a gnoll of Ash with a longbow doesn't play much differently from a high elf of Ash with a longbow except it has more HP and it gets good evocations in exchange for shittier spells. But it's not a bad combo by any means.

Einwand posted:

I'm pretty sure those fencing gloves give every weapon the ability to riposte like long blades.

Is there an updated webtiles version of goon crawl? When I looked at CBRO it seemed to be an old version still.

If I recall, fencing gloves give a 33% riposte chance for all weapons except long blades, and for long blades, they double the chance to 66%.

Teal posted:

so is it a too radical thought to ponder if there isn't something wrong with the skill system when a lot of people find the game a lot more fun when it's just gone?

I'm not even thinking about removing it period, just maybe somehow making it less... that's the problem, I can't really figure out what exactly bothers me about it, but I do feel like something can be improved

That people find the skill system better when it's gone doesn't follow from the fact that people like gnolls. It's much more likely that people enjoy the novelty of gnolls and being able to choose a different approach, not that they would prefer to play every game without skill choices. That's not to say that it's impossible to improve the skill system, of course.

Heithinn Grasida fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Nov 3, 2018

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