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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Tankakern posted:

why would i

people who's only experience with gentoo is setting CFLAGS in make.conf couldn't possibly understand how great it is

do you have an icon of st. ignutius on your wall?

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

is it iseries or z/os that will still run old system/360 programs that were written when we were still landing people on the moon?

nasa technically used the system/4π, a system/360 derivative architecture specifically for defense / avionics. (it would be a funny product name if it wasn't countless millions of taxpayer dollars wasted)

iseries and zseries are both compatible with hilariously old architectures

eschaton posted:

zSeries is System/z is a direct, compatible successor of System/360, System/370, and System/390

iSeries is System/i is AS/400

as/400 itself is "new," in the sense that it is full of wild 1990s ideas, but it is almost 100% compatible with s/36 and s/38, which are much older

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

feedmegin posted:

Ironically, AIX is actually still being actively developed.

aix is not really "actively" developed

it's still available if you beg for it, but ibm would prefer not to sell it to you. and the entire team for maintenance is based overseas.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mike12345 posted:

is that still true that ubuntu is just a sid snapshot? that sounds a bit trash.

yes

every bit of that post from 2014 is still relevant, because canonical is poo poo and ubuntu will always be poo poo

convenient that i never have to update the post to reflect subsequent improvement, since there's never any improvement :smith:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

yes

every bit of that post from 2014 is still relevant, because canonical is poo poo and ubuntu will always be poo poo

convenient that i never have to update the post to reflect subsequent improvement, since there's never any improvement :smith:

I can't see why Microsoft would want to buy Canonical for any reason than to take its IP and withhold goodies from Oracle if it gets in first.

edit: apologies to all, that was dumb.

ewe2 fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Nov 1, 2018

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

ewe2 posted:

rape its IP
what decade do you think it is right now?

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Last Chance posted:

what decade do you think it is right now?

I'm sure you'll recover from this terrible trauma, some day

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

nasa technically used the system/4π, a system/360 derivative architecture specifically for defense / avionics. (it would be a funny product name if it wasn't countless millions of taxpayer dollars wasted)

4/pi's debut with NASA was aboard Skylab. the computer complex at Houston was driven by a pair of System/360s during the Apollo missions. IBM did the onboard computers for Gemini but not for the Apollo spacecraft

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

why 4pi instead of 2pi

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

hobbesmaster posted:

why 4pi instead of 2pi

spheres

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



hobbesmaster posted:

why 4pi instead of 2pi

because more number = better than, duh

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

ewe2 posted:

I can't see why Microsoft would want to buy Canonical for any reason than to rape its IP

can we not do this, thanks

Coffee Jones
Jul 4, 2004

16 bit? Back when we was kids we only got a single bit on Christmas, as a treat
And we had to share it!

Coffee Jones posted:

is Open SSH’s development tied in openbsd and or does that get separate funding and separate governance because it’s so fundamental?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

what does your heart tell you



hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


ah so nasa's is 3d while ibm was 2d.

i was just thinking radians

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




hobbesmaster posted:

ah so nasa's is 3d while ibm was 2d.

i was just thinking radians

Yeah switching to (ste)radians was confusing. NASA shoulda called theirs systemπ/129600

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

hobbesmaster posted:

ah so nasa's is 3d while ibm was 2d.

i was just thinking radians

System 4/pi was also an IBM product, and saw far more use in fighter jets.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
red hat has officially marked kde as deprecated

that kinda sucks

not ready to face to bloodshed and use gnome

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



use kde neon*, its based on bionic and ships massive updates a couple times a week

* if you are like me and constitutionally incapable of installing a good linux

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

I just switched my fedora install to KDE a month or two ago :rip:
Gnome needs a real fuckin taskbar and poo poo if they're gonna stop updating kde packages

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
the virgin gnome 3 vs the chad xfce

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

red hat has officially marked kde as deprecated

that kinda sucks

not ready to face to bloodshed and use gnome

huh? link? kde is very much alive, maybe fedora has too few maintainers

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Tankakern posted:

huh? link? kde is very much alive, maybe fedora has too few maintainers

kde the project is alive

kde in rhel has no future

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
that headline is so dumb (because the register is dumb)

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
LOL if your RHEL install has a GUI.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

yeah, extremely overdramatic, rhel really barely needs even one desktop environment, and anything that is in rhel proper has very high support requirements. if you want kde on rhel in 2025 (when it is actually out of support cycle) i am sure you can find it in some other package repo

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
rhel does need a desktop environment

believe it or not workstations are still a thing

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

as long as fedora keeps it i'm satisfied. looks like the kde spin is alive and kicking at least

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

rhel does need a desktop environment

believe it or not workstations are still a thing

who’s still using them? we clung to our old solaris workstations for years after they were competitive, but now pretty much everything’s gone to windows (or maybe mac) with vms to do real work in.

idk anyone who actually runs linux or any non-mac unix as their primary desktop in a professional environment any more, not for about 5 years now, even if they spend 100% of their time writing and running linux software

I guess really specialised cad or something?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
IBM was one of the Red Hat Desktop Team's biggest customers. Along with the movie studios.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Soricidus posted:

who’s still using them? we clung to our old solaris workstations for years after they were competitive, but now pretty much everything’s gone to windows (or maybe mac) with vms to do real work in.

idk anyone who actually runs linux or any non-mac unix as their primary desktop in a professional environment any more, not for about 5 years now, even if they spend 100% of their time writing and running linux software

I guess really specialised cad or something?

scientists, cad/cam, extremely specialised video work, and linux software developers

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Tankakern posted:

as long as fedora keeps it i'm satisfied. looks like the kde spin is alive and kicking at least

for now.

rhel directions have a nasty habit of becoming fedora directions. (and vice versa)

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Suspicious Dish posted:

IBM was one of the Red Hat Desktop Team's biggest customers. Along with the movie studios.

here you can request that your laptop come with rhel 7 desktop preloaded. I know at least 5 on my local team of 30 who use it

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

for now.

rhel directions have a nasty habit of becoming fedora directions. (and vice versa)

RHEL forks Fedora when they do a new release. it’s never the other way around.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

gnome "its good enough for me"

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

ratbert90 posted:

RHEL forks Fedora when they do a new release. it’s never the other way around.

no, but red hat product priorities are reflected in fedora

skimothy milkerson
Nov 19, 2006

my bitter bi rival posted:

gnome "its good enough for me"

dont sign

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Fedora is prompting me to install a new release.

Might wait a day or three idk.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
who the gently caress is still using desktop linux without i3 smdh

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cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

i have an i5 op

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