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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

SimonChris posted:

Well, it's just one poll with a low sample size. 538 still has him down by 5 points on average.
Still, state polls have been off by more than that in the past. He has a real shot at this.

well polled large state down by 5 points or so?

he has a chance I just wouldn't bet on him

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Getting one chamber should be enough. Elijah Cummings with subpoena power can do some damage.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Typo posted:

If beto wins chances are TN falls too, so do NV/AZ

so the senate is like 52-48

so definitely not happening

Eh, before Beto became a huge national figure and raised whatever absurd amount of money he has now, I'd have agreed. Now he could win and the others still lose. Maybe. Like, freaky poo poo is afoot.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Nate tweeted this poll yesterday

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1057758755583156226

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
It's seriously race-by-race.

The Tennessee guy's support totally collapsed when he said he'd vote for Kavanaugh. A shitload of his staff and donors quit and his polling has fallen ever since. Heitkamp in N.D. was an uphill battle to get re-elected, but then she shot herself in the foot really badly by naming sexual assault survivors in an ad without OKing it with them first.

Senate races are individual races. Bad candidates happen all over the place, but it happens like equally with both parties, so the effects wash out on a big aggregate level like the U.S. House or the thousands of state lege races.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

PostNouveau posted:

It's seriously race-by-race.

The Tennessee guy's support totally collapsed when he said he'd vote for Kavanaugh. A shitload of his staff and donors quit and his polling has fallen ever since. Heitkamp in N.D. was an uphill battle to get re-elected, but then she shot herself in the foot really badly by naming sexual assault survivors in an ad without OKing it with them first.

Senate races are individual races. Bad candidates happen all over the place, but it happens like equally with both parties, so the effects wash out on a big aggregate level like the U.S. House or the thousands of state lege races.

And here I thought it was Beto was sucking all the funding out of those other races that was going to make democrats lose!

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

Shear Modulus posted:

nominating a cop was going to bring over so many moderate republicans though

Her opponent was a private equity bro son of a former governor though. Pick your poison.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

There's a plane flying around Austin right now with a “BETO because socialism sux!” banner lol

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Sab0921 posted:

Her opponent was a private equity bro son of a former governor though. Pick your poison.

yea I hate Lupe but I also can't say I'm somehow upset that fuckin White didn't win, so good job texas dems

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

zoux posted:

Ugh it just occurred to me that Sylvester Turner is probably gonna run for governor in 2022.

This won't happen. It's a lot harder to run his grift at the state level (it's not hard to run a grift at the state level, just hard to do it with a Republican infrastructure all around you).

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

zoux posted:

There's a plane flying around Austin right now with a “BETO because socialism sux!” banner lol

Because America is crying out for tax relief, some rich dude paid for that to fly around cities where Beto is at the time - it was flying around Houston last week.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Sab0921 posted:

Her opponent was a private equity bro son of a former governor though. Pick your poison.

Yeah they were both not very good.

I'm firmly in the "Castro should have run" camp

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Another +2 for Beto. My parents voted straight Democrat this morning, at the same place I voted at. According to them there was no line this time and no funny business with the machines.

I hope the TX state house gets a whole bunch of D’s. My dad is a retired teacher and it’d be just super if he didn’t lose his benefits.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Why is Turner bad?

TropicalCoke
Feb 14, 2012
IDK where that's coming from. Sylvester Turner is an okay mayor and a pretty good speaker. Houston has some issues but a lot of those were inherited.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Still tempering expectations, but this is an interesting data point to consider:

https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1058111901857730560


Basically, 538's model is presuming an approximately 39% voter turnout rate for its Texas numbers, but early voting has already put us at 32% turnout in the 30 biggest counties. Now, not all polls would necessarily make the same assumption 538 does but as they're the only one that publishes that number, it's our best signpost to go by.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Badger of Basra posted:

Why is Turner bad?

I don't really hate the guy but he's just such a stereotypical red state 'says nice things, happy to do good photo ops, but doesn't really DO much' dem.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

Why is Turner bad?

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Amazing that they let a member of a known terrorist organization run for office

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

Badger of Basra posted:

Why is Turner bad?

Because he does not do anything of note and the things he does do of note are usually to hand out extremely lucrative contracts to his friends (like the IAH Airport concessions that went to a group that has no experience in the space, but a shitload of his donors).

I'm trying to think of anything he's done of note other than the pension deal (which is admittedly very big, but any savings borne out of that are going to be lost with the firefighter prop anyway). Parker was always doing poo poo, and she caught flack for it, but the city is a better place because of historic districts, Buffalo Bayou Park, Bayou Greenways, certain development code changes (though obviously not far enough for parking requirements), HERO (even though it ultimately failed at the ballot), Rebuild Houston infrastructure program etc.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Typo posted:

well polled large state down by 5 points or so?

Well-polled large state lets you rule out sampling error, so Beto's chances come down to hoping the likely voter screens are off.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Sab0921 posted:

Because he does not do anything of note and the things he does do of note are usually to hand out extremely lucrative contracts to his friends (like the IAH Airport concessions that went to a group that has no experience in the space, but a shitload of his donors).

I'm trying to think of anything he's done of note other than the pension deal (which is admittedly very big, but any savings borne out of that are going to be lost with the firefighter prop anyway). Parker was always doing poo poo, and she caught flack for it, but the city is a better place because of historic districts, Buffalo Bayou Park, Bayou Greenways, certain development code changes (though obviously not far enough for parking requirements), HERO (even though it ultimately failed at the ballot), Rebuild Houston infrastructure program etc.

yea going right from Parker to Turner is really what makes it rough. Like, you can complain about her but Parker was always active, it feels like Turner just wants to coast on one (genuinely good) win in the pension thing and is just gonna hang out in office passing contracts to his buddies and just making sure nothing actively fucks the city up on his watch.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Turner would at least know what's going on in Texas government as he served in the House for quite a while. So, between him and Lupe the choice would be super clear, but yeah TX Dems should be spending their likely newfound cashflow on grooming someone good for the 2022 race.

yellowyams
Jan 15, 2011

If electing an anime for mayor is wrong then I don't want to be right.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Houston is 601 square miles of concrete in a flood plain built on a drained swamp and still has major white flight even at that size.

It does alright given what it is, but it will always have problems.

Edit: Parker was genuinely kick rear end though, so he was always going to suck by comparison unless he busted his rear end.

Dameius fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Nov 2, 2018

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

https://twitter.com/bootleg_stuff/status/1058142167456194560

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010


We have poisoned the earth.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




+1 for Beto and all the other succdems on the ballot

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

I voted for the Bernie guy with a Geocities website who called Abbott a fascist. My runner-up was the guy who owns the the leather bar in Dallas.

Hi5 geocities weirdo voter. I think that's who I semi-randomly picked too.

Doom Rooster posted:

I'll bring you back down.

Beto is not going to win. It will be miraculous if he loses by less than 5, but even if he does the Democratic institutions in Texas and across the country will just say "If an incredibly charismatic, well-funded, attractive young white guy during a BLUE WAVE can't beat the most hated, unaccomplished, unlikable, feckless coward of a republican alive today, Texas is a lost cause and we should definitely not try to build on any momentum that Beto generated."

Feel worse better?

I can do one better. There won't be a #BlueWave.

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.
Oh yeah +13 for Beto - it broke down like this +1 for each of me and my wife, and per rule, my anchor baby got to vote 11 times.

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

yellowyams posted:

If electing an anime for mayor is wrong then I don't want to be right.



Parker was even better at being a nerd. I wonder if I can find them - but while she was a sitting mayor, she used to get into twitter fights about Star Trek.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Block walking for Beto this weekend. And I hope that some of you are doing the same!

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

Zwabu posted:

Block walking for Beto this weekend. And I hope that some of you are doing the same!

Getting together with some folks to call brown people in Ft. Bend County - turnout for Sri Kulkarni and Beto. Putting some Hindi (and capability of understanding thick South Asian accents) to work!

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1058166040587370496

quote:

The two main arms of the proposal would give school districts financial incentives to improve student performance, as well as cap the revenue school districts can collect from property taxes in order to decrease tax rates.

...

The most detailed section of the presentation proposes capping at 2.5 percent the increase in local property tax revenue school districts can collect per year, ultimately causing tax rates to decline. The state has increasingly relied on local property taxes to fund public education, and decreased its own share. The Texas Education Agency this year projected a $3.5 billion drop in the state's general revenue for public education over the next couple of years, because local property taxes are expected to increase.

:ughh:

Not sure how capping school budgets is going to "fix school finance" but what the gently caress ever

Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Nov 2, 2018

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
guess whos back

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1058162930418675712

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1058170305418612736

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

This makes me like Beto more.

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

The OG loving Pimp is back, y'all.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
It's so sad that people like okeefe are able to continue to ruin lives.

Campaign workers should not need to worry about some dishonest right winger that might be filming them so he can lie about it on foxnews. That gig is already stressful enough.

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.
So the O'keefe person came in and said can we use a few campaign bucks to buy some food for starving people and they said yes and that's the scandal because the starving people were brown?

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

Sab0921 posted:

So the O'keefe person came in and said can we use a few campaign bucks to buy some food for starving people and they said yes and that's the scandal because the starving people were brown?

How dare they starve before we get to shoot them

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