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Joey Freshwater posted:McCann declined his option. I’d love to see him back in Atlanta That is not the type of move AA makes. He's way more likely to trade for a guy with a couple years of control.
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1058186690743934976 Who are the Cubs trying to move who has associated salary? Chatwood I guess? Good loving luck, idiots.
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1058186690743934976 Zobrist, maybe. But Chatwood is almost certainly more likely. Edit: They also might be having buyers' remorse on Smyly because his recovery seems to have stalled.
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Time for Adam Wainwright's annual theme Halloween costume with all his kids. https://twitter.com/UncleCharlie50/status/1057746956754341888
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Pancakes posted:Time for Adam Wainwright's annual theme Halloween costume with all his kids. One on the left clearly too cool for this.
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Aw cmon she's the queen, she looks the part  I like the Cheshire Cat-on-the-DL costume though
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Mustached Demon posted:One on the left clearly too cool for this. At least no one twisted her arm over it like the one on the right 
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https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1058369005327695872 uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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They got the Rangers to take Smyly because they were going to be on the hook for that buyout of Hamels.
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I guess I'll reserve judgement until the return is announced (presumably it's fairly light) but this seems like a dumb move. Was it really going to break the bank to keep Smyly and his 7M around as a bullpen/stretch starter option for next year? God that pickup looks so stupid now.
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Sydin posted:I guess I'll reserve judgement until the return is announced (presumably it's fairly light) but this seems like a dumb move. Was it really going to break the bank to keep Smyly and his 7M around as a bullpen/stretch starter option for next year? It cost a whole 3m ? He hasn't thrown a major league inning since September 26th, 2016.
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Sydin posted:I guess I'll reserve judgement until the return is announced (presumably it's fairly light) but this seems like a dumb move. Was it really going to break the bank to keep Smyly and his 7M around as a bullpen/stretch starter option for next year? Looks a little better than what the M's gave up for him for his 2017 "season."
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Lester, Hendricks, Darvish, Hamels, and Quintana seems like a fine rotation as long as they can stay healthy and the offense remembers how to hit.
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Yeah it should be fine. I'm not convinced Hamels is going to be all that great considering his September was actually pretty terrible and more in line with the rest of his season than his incredible August, but if he can eat innings and not be too terrible ala Lackey, then I'm onboard. Would be really cool if Darvish could stay healthy and Quintana could remember he's supposed to be a good pitcher though.
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Seems like the Cubs bluffed the Rangers into taking a bad contract off their hands by threatening to not pick up the option, and stick the Rangers with the buyout, when they intended to bring Hamels back all along. GJ Epstein. I still wouldn't want to pay Cole Hamels' old busted rear end $20 million though.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Seems like the Cubs bluffed the Rangers into taking a bad contract off their hands by threatening to not pick up the option, and stick the Rangers with the buyout, when they intended to bring Hamels back all along. GJ Epstein. I still wouldn't want to pay Cole Hamels' old busted rear end $20 million though. I was on your lines of thinking before I really looked at it... 20m for 3+ WAR  It's not horrible. He's been a pretty consistent workhorse. And his home away splits with Texas were pretty bad.If they declined it and tried to work out a deal they would probably have to give him more years and overall money and then other teams would be in as well. It was probably the right move.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Lester, Hendricks, Darvish, Hamels, and Quintana seems like a fine rotation as long as they can stay healthy and the offense remembers how to hit. ______ seems like a fine _____ as long as they can ________ The template of baseball woe.
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Three hours until Clayton Kershaw opts out and signs with the Yankees. Can't wait.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Three hours until Clayton Kershaw opts out and signs with the Yankees. Can't wait. Kershaw, Corbin, CC, Happ, Gumby back midseason...Do The Yankees Have Too Many LHP? My column:
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Lester, Hendricks, Darvish, Hamels, and Quintana seems like a fine rotation as long as they can stay healthy and the offense remembers how to hit. Chatwood Redemption Season
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This is where I was two years ago today.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icvoo_Mzwic
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The Pussy Boss posted:Three hours until Clayton Kershaw opts out and signs with the Yankees. Can't wait. 
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:This is where I was two years ago today. I still get nervous anytime I think about Bryant coming up with that ball off balance and almost sailing it over Rizzos head.
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Popete posted:I still get nervous anytime I think about Bryant coming up with that ball off balance and almost sailing it over Rizzos head. I've rewatched the condensed game a few times over the past 2 years and it still gives me anxiety, even though I know the outcome.
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Not sure why you guys are talking about ancient baseball history when free agency starts today?
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The Pussy Boss posted:Three hours until Clayton Kershaw opts out and signs with the Yankees. Can't wait. This post is mcmagic endorsed.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Not sure why you guys are talking about ancient baseball history when free agency starts today? The Cubsposting never stops, you know this.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Not sure why you guys are talking about ancient baseball history when free agency starts today? Ok fine. I can't wait until the Cubs sign both Machado and Harper and also trade Addison Russell for Starlin Castro.
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Inspector_666 posted:The Cubsposting never stops, you know this. Don't blame us, blame the mods who closed our cubsposting containment thread. 
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I was just teasing, I too like to reminisce about when my baseball team was good News: Dodgers will give Grandal a QO and are still deciding whether to extend one to Ryu as well
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R.D. Mangles posted:Chatwood Redemption Season Kind of wonder what they'll do with him. He's their 7th starter now I guess. Maybe 8th is Alzolay looks ready. Sydin posted:Yeah it should be fine. I'm not convinced Hamels is going to be all that great considering his September was actually pretty terrible and more in line with the rest of his season than his incredible August, but if he can eat innings and not be too terrible ala Lackey, then I'm onboard. Would be really cool if Darvish could stay healthy and Quintana could remember he's supposed to be a good pitcher though. He had that one bad start in September at Arizona. Otherwise he was pretty good. Factor in getting Smyly off the books and it's $13 million for what at worst should be a big innings eater at the back of the rotation. If you want to talk bad deals, I forgot the Cubs are on the hook for Kintzler at $5 million. Boy did that turn out to be a bad trade.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Seems like the Cubs bluffed the Rangers into taking a bad contract off their hands by threatening to not pick up the option, and stick the Rangers with the buyout, when they intended to bring Hamels back all along. GJ Epstein. I still wouldn't want to pay Cole Hamels' old busted rear end $20 million though. I guess I'm just higher on Smyly than most others are, his rehab stalled this year but the claim was that was more due to the minor league season ending before he could complete his rehab and less any health issues on Smyly's part, and for $7M he could be a valuable bullpen piece/swingman if healthy. It is entirely possible though that he's got more lingering health problems than the Cubs let on and they figured he was dead money at this point. I'm also not particularly high on Hamels but time will tell.
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Cubs payroll is $200M with arb estimates included? Time to rebuild!
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Indians didn't offer a QO to anybody, which I understand for their pitchers but I feel like Brantley was worth the offer.
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Niwrad posted:Kind of wonder what they'll do with him. He's their 7th starter now I guess. Maybe 8th is Alzolay looks ready. I have to imagine Chatwood is going to get a shot in the spring, but if he's the same he gets relegated to the bullpen to be used in blowout games to chew up innings, and thrown in to start in case of injury. I do like the Cubs starting rotation. Not sure if there is a super ace in the bunch, but there's no duds either. Putting out above average guys five days in a row is better than most teams. IMO, Cubs just need to find someone to play SS or 2B to fill in for Russell. If they pick up Harper, then someone has to get traded because how do you have an OF that consists of Schwarber, Heyward, Almora, Harper, and Zobrist. You're either benching some good talent, or a lot of money 40% of the time. I don't really think Zobrist can play 2B every day, but maybe that's the answer for that spot for at least one year.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I have to imagine Chatwood is going to get a shot in the spring, but if he's the same he gets relegated to the bullpen to be used in blowout games to chew up innings, and thrown in to start in case of injury. There's zero chance Chatwood makes the rotation barring injury. Lester, Hendricks, Darvish, Q, and Hamels are all locks now. He's either going to be dumped in a bad contract swap or he's going to be garbage time mop up man like you said.
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Sydin posted:I guess I'm just higher on Smyly than most others are, his rehab stalled this year but the claim was that was more due to the minor league season ending before he could complete his rehab and less any health issues on Smyly's part, and for $7M he could be a valuable bullpen piece/swingman if healthy. It is entirely possible though that he's got more lingering health problems than the Cubs let on and they figured he was dead money at this point. I'm also not particularly high on Hamels but time will tell. tbh I have no idea if Drew Smyly is any good anymore, I just wouldn't want to depend on a lot of innings from a guy coming off of TJS. For example Andrew Heaney started off this season great but really fell off in the 2nd half. MLBTR made a good point that the Rangers are rebuilding so they can afford to give Smyly a spot in their rotation, and if he sucks, oh well. Plus if he's good they could flip him at the deadline.
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Sydin posted:There's zero chance Chatwood makes the rotation barring injury. Lester, Hendricks, Darvish, Q, and Hamels are all locks now. If Chatwood is decent, they may go to a 6-man rotation, but otherwise I agree.
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