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President Beep posted:when george soros sent out his checks that month he put a secret code on the memo line that told (((everyone))) to not go to the WTC that day. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
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infernal machines posted:i don't think ironic antisemitism is really the direction you want to go here yeah https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1033506727352782849?s=21
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i kinda think there's a difference between casual internet ironic-not-ironic slurs and directly making fun of specific antisemitic theories for being nonsense but ok
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Shame Boy posted:i kinda think there's a difference between casual internet ironic-not-ironic slurs and directly making fun of specific antisemitic theories for being nonsense but ok Ironic racism is still racism.
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Captain Foo posted:can you not
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Shame Boy posted:i kinda think there's a difference between casual internet ironic-not-ironic slurs and directly making fun of specific antisemitic theories for being nonsense but ok poe's law and also no, there isn't, just don't do that because it encourages exactly the wrong kind of hilarious one-upmanship
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:hey we finally found the elusive mondale voter it was better than the alternative.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:I remember the last moon landing and Nixon giving the double V before getting in Marine One for the last time leaving the White House in disgrace. The first time I voted was for Mondale. drat you old
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ok, yeah. sorry everyone.
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infernal machines posted:poe's law and also no, there isn't, just don't do that because it encourages exactly the wrong kind of hilarious one-upmanship yeah i guess that's valid
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infernal machines posted:poe's law and also no, there isn't, just don't do that because it encourages exactly the wrong kind of hilarious one-upmanship that's a pretty drat succinct way of putting it
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yeah, it does make sense. reflecting on my post, i'd hate to have someone take that seriously, nor do i want to even begin to steer things in that direction.
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President Beep posted:yeah, it does make sense. reflecting on my post, i'd hate to have someone take that seriously, nor do i want to even begin to steer things in that direction. don’t sign, bitch
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President Beep posted:yeah, it does make sense. reflecting on my post, i'd hate to have someone take that seriously, nor do i want to even begin to steer things in that direction. the nice thing is the thought of somebody learning and reflecting on it more by reading this interaction :o so gj for being thoughtful instead of defensive good qualities we shouldn't expect any time soon from professional grifter melon husk
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i bet elong has some chill opinions about jewish people and other minorities
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i bet elong has some chill opinions about jewish people and other minorities *looks up population demographics in south africa during apartheid.* yeah, probably.
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oh hey remember how tesla was accused of underreporting injuries last year https://twitter.com/add/status/1059511259995942913 https://twitter.com/add/status/1059512286799261696
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i'll take perverse incentives for 100, alex
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here's the podcast including the reporter who did this investigation and the last one: https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/working-through-the-pain-at-tesla/ H.P. Hovercraft posted:oh hey remember how tesla was accused of underreporting injuries last year
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tesla hiring all the finest doctors from hollywood upstairs medical school i see
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:tesla hiring all the finest doctors from hollywood upstairs medical school i see they can prescribe anything they want, but they won't
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you have to admire the beautiful simplicity of their solution to the "we have too many injuries" problem is "report fewer injuries" someone definitely earned their bonus there
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The same care for people they give to their cars. Checks out.
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infernal machines posted:you have to admire the beautiful simplicity of their solution to the "we have too many injuries" problem is "report fewer injuries" Juking the stats is extremely common, I learned this in a documentary called The Wire
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SurfJournalist/status/1059518580838952960 ethics in surfing journalism
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Cat Face Joe posted:they can prescribe anything they want, but they won't what is the #1 tension in my marriage, alex
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/SurfJournalist/status/1059518580838952960 This company is good because other companies are much worse
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:the company trying to save the planet. lord almighty i hate these loving idiots so goddamn much
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someone tell them about how tesla sells indulgences to other companies so for every tesla sold some 5mpg gently caress truck rolls off the line to balance it out
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:oh hey remember how tesla was accused of underreporting injuries last year fwiw Tesla didn’t invent any of that “we need a new first aid kit. the old one got “mistakenly thrown out””
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Shame Boy posted:5mpg gently caress truck the bang bus of rural america
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no doubt ellon will act all astonished and claim he had no idea about the injuries not being reported etc etc because it definitely isn't suspicious at all when you hire a new medical company that promises fewer injuries and wow amazing there's fewer injuries even though none of your factory procedures have actually changed
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lost fingat, send bazinga
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urgent care clinics are insane, I went to one on a saturday and I was the only person in there not present as a result of a manual labor injury
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ol qwerty bastard posted:no doubt ellon will act all astonished and claim he had no idea about the injuries not being reported etc etc he probably forgot because of the memory loss from when he kept bashing his head into the bumper of that car that was on the assembly line
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/SurfJournalist/status/1059518580838952960 it's great when a 1 minute search on revealnews.com pops up with several stories about lax safety standards in the North Dakota oil industry and lax safety standards at goodyear tire.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:oh hey remember how tesla was accused of underreporting injuries last year this wouldn't happen if not for burdensome government regulations
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infernal machines posted:you have to admire the beautiful simplicity of their solution to the "we have too many injuries" problem is "report fewer injuries" This is the reason while blameless postmortems/retrospectives should be held. It's also the reason why you never want to incentivize safety with things like "prizes for low incident counts" -- they encourage people to falsify numbers, or otherwise cause social pressure to under-report values. Safety and health should basically be their own reward, and the retrospective / planning system should be driven with its main objective being to gain information that informs safety, where you can derive work conditions and context that encourages safety implicitly (i.e. systems that do not let you enter a safe room until you have applied your lock to it, and lets nobody turn on machinery while a physical lock is active) rather than incentivizing individuals directly with some carrot or stick.
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like you can pretty much guess that tesla underreports incidents because Musk or some Musk superfan within the org wants to please whoever checks the stats super hard and people on the floor know they'll get in trouble if they're the one person to drive the incident count over the threshold. You'd probably look at the figures around when it happened and see something like "5 incidents a month" and all of a sudden it goes down to 1-2 and then 0 because you report nothing unless a limb is lost or someone's brain is on the factory floor
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i'm sorry, but we consider not maiming people to be a cost center. coincidentally, we've rolled that poo poo downhill and now both our workers and the medical treatment people are contractors. not our responsibility
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