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mcmagic posted:If they trade for one of the Indians' starters, who is going to sit? Probably no one for awhile until someone hits the DL.
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Accident Underwater posted:Probably no one for awhile until someone hits the DL. So 6 man rotation? I don't like bringing back CC because if he's here he's going to 100% get a spot in the rotation and I don't think he should. They can find 5 better starters. Angry Grimace posted:Yeah I’m shocked a Yankees fan would love to sign Bryce Harper to play a position he has literally never played. Let me guess: also sign Machado at the same time and then trade Miguel Andujar (who is definitely winning Rookie of the Year) for Corey Kluber straight up. Harper's agent is the one who brought up him possibly playing 1B. I also don't want the Yankees to sign Machado or trade Andujar. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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https://sports.yahoo.com/meet-next-star-japanese-pitcher-will-jumping-mlb-012010967.html Yusei Kikuchi will be the next NPB pitcher to make the jump to MLB. He wasn't quite as dominant in Japan as Darvish or Tanaka and people are saying he's more of a mid-rotation guy than an ace. Still, sounds like lots of teams are interested. Scouting report from some dodgers blog: http://dodgersdigest.com/2018/11/06/scouting-report-yusei-kikuchi/
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https://twitter.com/PinwheelsIvyPod/status/1060233242119307264 Uh... okay I guess? Felt like Hickey did a fine job all things considered.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:I think it says more about how baseball front offices work these days. Zaidi has to build an entire administration of his own in SF to be able to keep up. It’s going to take time to do that + build up the farm system. Unless he manages to poach a bunch of guys from the Friedman administration, it’s not gonna matter much to the Dodgers Yeah. I mean, it might be problematic having a rival GM who has a sense of your trade/FA targets, but the Dodgers are obviously much better situated than the Giants for now in terms of prospects and overall "win now" allure to facilitate signings and trades. He's also going to be heavily constrained by that glut of hilariously bad contracts. One funny outcome out of all this is that there's now a nonzero chance of Madison Bumgarner getting traded to the Dodgers. Joe Panik also lines up as an intriguing platoon partner for Taylor/Enrique. Will be something to watch.
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/PinwheelsIvyPod/status/1060233242119307264 Yea, this seems odd. Chatwood is really the only failure at pitcher, and you can't blame that on Hickey. Darvish getting injured isn't on Hickey either. The Cubs had a really good year overall, even if some of the guys had some rough spots.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:04
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"The Giants suck. Now here's a list of Giants players we should trade for" lol
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Vernacular posted:Yeah. I mean, it might be problematic having a rival GM who has a sense of your trade/FA targets, but the Dodgers are obviously much better situated than the Giants for now in terms of prospects and overall "win now" allure to facilitate signings and trades. He's also going to be heavily constrained by that glut of hilariously bad contracts. Angry Grimace posted:Miguel Andujar (who is definitely winning Rookie of the Year)
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The Pussy Boss posted:"The Giants suck. Now here's a list of Giants players we should trade for" Nice post. bawfuls posted:Farhan also brings to SF an intimate knowledge of the Dodgers farm system and how the LA FO views/values specific players within that system. This is reason enough not to trade with him. Right, but you could have said the same thing about AA when he went to the Braves, and yet the two teams were able to work out a pretty solid symbiotic deal. I wouldn't bet on a trade happening but if there are a few prospects who Zaidi valued and Friedman didn't, something might work out.
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Wouldn't CC be in the top 5 or 10 "5th starters" in the league? He absolutely helps a team more than he blocks someone elses opportunity. Thats a spicy take to not want CC back. Supposedly the Nationals offered Harper 300/10 years with no opt outs. I'll be surprised if he get a much higher offer.
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zapplez posted:Supposedly the Nationals offered Harper 300/10 years with no opt outs. I'll be surprised if he get a much higher offer. He definitely wants opt outs though. So far he's been unable to repeat his 2015 campaign but if he puts up another 10 WAR season in a much weaker FA year he could potentially opt out for way more money.
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zapplez posted:Wouldn't CC be in the top 5 or 10 "5th starters" in the league? He absolutely helps a team more than he blocks someone elses opportunity. Thats a spicy take to not want CC back. This post on the High King of the Fifth Starters has some statistical context you could use to compare to CC
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bawfuls posted:I guess the Dodgers just don’t care about their rival getting all that institutional knowledge, because it sounds like they didn’t try very hard to keep him. Its a promotion. You generally don’t see teams obstruct this sort of move if it’s a step up from where they are in your org. The thinking essentially goes that if you thought he was promotion material you’d have given him one. Some other team thought he was. Done. You wouldn’t want to trade with him, but LA/SF very rarely ever trade anyway.
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1/$8 for CC is a good get. That's a rounding error for the Yanks and doesn't take them out of the running for anything else. Edit: Before this signing the Yanks had three starters if you include Gray. You can't count on getting everyone you need in this FA market, so securing a sure thing early makes a ton of sense. Well Played Mauer fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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I am 1000% on board with CC on a one year deal as rotation depth and the idea of "we can find exactly five better SPs and that's all we'll need" feels so quaint that it doesn't feel worth engaging with. Like even if the idea is that CC is guaranteed one of 5 spots at all times so it pushes a better option back if we find ourselves with 6 healthy options isn't something that seems like you build free agent signings around.
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Yeah, I don’t see how you don’t like the CC deal.
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I just don't believe that CC won't be in the rotation if he's on the roster and I think they can do better if they sign Happ and Corbin and trade for another pitcher. Sheffield and the returning Monty should've been the extra starters, not a 40 year old guy the team is emotionally attached to.
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CC had a 120 ERA+ in 153 innings last season, it’s some galaxy brain logic to think that he won’t produce or get enough innings
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Sydin posted:He definitely wants opt outs though. So far he's been unable to repeat his 2015 campaign but if he puts up another 10 WAR season in a much weaker FA year he could potentially opt out for way more money. I suspect the contract Harper actually signs will have an opt out after 2 or maybe 3 years. He's 26. He's gonna want to hit free agency again before he's old.
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but you see when the Yankees get all of the last 5 Cy Young winners they won't have room for him so it's a bad deal
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mcmagic posted:I just don't believe that CC won't be in the rotation if he's on the roster and I think they can do better if they sign Happ and Corbin and trade for another pitcher. Sheffield and the returning Monty should've been the extra starters, not a 40 year old guy the team is emotionally attached to. That's a lot of if's, man.
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Carlosologist posted:CC had a 120 ERA+ in 153 innings last season, it’s some galaxy brain logic to think that he won’t produce or get enough innings No but we can definitely write "PITCHER TO BE TRADED FOR" into the rotation and that's rock solid planning.
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https://twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/1060355981475905537 This is a very Jerry Dipoto trade.
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Getting to opening day with too much starting pitching is a fake problem no one has imo
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New Concept Hole posted:Getting to opening day with too much starting pitching is a fake problem no one has imo It is if you don't make moves you should make because of a roster logjam or if young players get blocked who shouldn't be blocked.
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The Yankees barely even have two starters to rub together right now, what sort of weird gimmick is this?
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JoeCL posted:The Yankees barely even have two starters to rub together right now, what sort of weird gimmick is this? Hello this is the result of losing the Yankees-only thread. I'm sorry.
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JoeCL posted:https://twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/1060355981475905537 Sounds like it's a done deal: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1060365570598555649
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Sydin posted:Sounds like it's a done deal: Doesn't exactly fit with the "complete rebuild" they're meant to be going after. Maybe Mallex goes somewhere else for prospects?
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Julio Cruz posted:Doesn't exactly fit with the "complete rebuild" they're meant to be going after. Maybe Mallex goes somewhere else for prospects? fwiw Dipoto walked that back a bit. Said they might trade some vets but it's not a fire sale. https://www.mlb.com/mariners/news/jerry-dipoto-mariners-wont-do-teardown/c-300348502
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Will Mallex be a Mariner for more than 30 minutes this time? Will he be traded for a player who literally never appears in a game for the Mariners again?
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Sydin posted:He definitely wants opt outs though. So far he's been unable to repeat his 2015 campaign but if he puts up another 10 WAR season in a much weaker FA year he could potentially opt out for way more money. There is no way any team is giving him player opt outs less than like 4 or 5 years in. It would be the dumbest move ever.
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Smith was very good last year and is controlled for a while. That's pretty good!
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That MLB vs. Japan All-Star series starts early tomorrow morning (US time); MLB Network will air live and on replay in the evenings. Pretty fun roster:quote:PITCHERS
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Bird in a Blender posted:Yea, this seems odd. Chatwood is really the only failure at pitcher, and you can't blame that on Hickey. Darvish getting injured isn't on Hickey either. The Cubs had a really good year overall, even if some of the guys had some rough spots. There's obviously something going on between Theo and Joe. Not sure if these are passive aggressive moves aimed at Joe or they genuinely found stuff they didn't like in the coaches. If Theo really has an issue with Joe, I'd rather he just fire him now instead of going through this weird dance next season. As for Hickey, the stats showed some considerable declines. They dropped from 7th to 22nd in xFIP. From 8th to 21st in K/9. And 21st to 28th in BB/9 (if I remember correctly, they were real upset with walks when they fired Bosio). Young pitchers like Edwards, Chatwood, and Quintana saw declines in their performance. Is there really anything in the pitching department that can be looked at as having improved last season? Not saying they should have fired him. I really don't know. He could just be the scapegoat for Theo having a terrible offseason last year.
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It definitely feels like the FO is having a vote of no confidence on Joe, given Hickey and Davis being hired was painted as Joe finally being allowed to go out and get "his guys" and ditch the coaching staff he initially inherited. My guess as to why Joe himself isn't getting fired is that he's still owed a cool $5M.
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The Braves poached Mike Fast from the Astros to be a special assistant to Anthopoulos, providing analytic expertise. The idea of the Braves even just catching up to analytic methods is pretty wild to me, much less leading the way.
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