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EnergizerFellow posted:so are suits still a thing east of the mississippi? at least for architect/manager level outside finance? nope not unless you're customer-facing
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EnergizerFellow posted:so are suits still a thing east of the mississippi? at least for architect/manager level outside finance? not super common, but their incidence does increase as you go up the corporate ladder, imho. still very dependent on the company culture, though. Also a reminder that when a west coast tech company says "we don't care what you wear" they mean "We will judge you if you're not wearing casual clothes"
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cheque_some posted:not super common, but their incidence does increase as you go up the corporate ladder, imho. still very dependent on the company culture, though. this isn't strictly true, they'll judge you if you dress like an absolute fuckin moron
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Nov 6, 2018 03:13
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and good, dont dress like a loving moron
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lolMononcQc posted:yeah basically you can see remote work in all kinds of variations from "babbi's first remote" to "full blown remote": the one area where it really worked was 24h debug. we'd work 8 hours, hand off to somewhere in yurop, they'd work for 8 and hand off to malaysia, we'd wake up and the problem was 16 hours ahead. like magic. KoRMaK posted:I'm very open to that idea, but I don't think I was a dick about offering. I was always really supportive of helping them. I was very very patient with them, but I will say I wasn't absolutely perfect. It was a very trying relationship. They didn't know anything about how like classes or instances worked, or how variables and their scopes were defined, which means they basically misrepresented themselves in the interview. So anyway, whatever it was I was tooooo much of a dick from his perspective. But for me, and the other devs that had to work with him, they said I demonstrated really good patience.
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Nov 6, 2018 03:41
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I wear a dress shirt and pants because I want to. 
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SardonicTyrant posted:I wear a dress shirt and pants because I want to. narc
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Nov 6, 2018 03:44
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SardonicTyrant posted:I wear a dress shirt and pants because I want to. "You know we have a casual dress code, right?" I used to work in finance and had this director that would wear a suit with no tie every day. Once in a while I'd wear a tie just because I felt like it and he would say, "You know wearing a tie is optional, right?". I 'd confirm that I knew that, I just wanted to and he would be like, "I just wanted you to know that wearing a tie is OPTIONAL" One time, when we had a meeting scheduled with him, I got my entire team to wear ties just to see what he would do. My manager, who usually tried to get away with jeans and sneakers, showed up to the meeting in a suit. As I recall, the director bellowed "WHAT IS EVERYONE SO DRESSED UP FOR?!" and slammed the table. Now imagine if you did that in sillycon valley!
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Nov 6, 2018 03:56
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Truth be told, I originally was playing it safe because the company video for the dress code literally didn't explain what the dress code was.
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Nov 6, 2018 04:30
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now that i think about it, i worked with a dude for 5 months who came in with a kilt, top coat and inverness cape in every day. had the general body shape and mien to pull it off. cycled off into another office and would wear the whole shebang in videoconferences i suspect that was a life goal of his
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Nov 6, 2018 05:01
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My company has different dress codes and it's usually more formal the closer a site works with a customer. P much a dog and pony show. Luckily I can get away with jeans and dbz/Hawaiian shirts for my current project, while My last project was business casual.
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Nov 6, 2018 16:38
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Here's a tip: if you're gonna wear a suit, don't go wearing the cheapest loving three piece you can find in the back corner of Walmart. Get it tailored, spend a lot of money, buy several, and get them cleaned often. I think nerds hate suits vociferously because they always wear the most ill fitting awful suits that do nothing but advertise their own inferiority above all else. Your suit should make you feel and look like a king, not a goddamn peasant
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Nov 6, 2018 17:14
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qhat posted:Here's a tip: if you're gonna wear a suit, don't go wearing the cheapest loving three piece you can find in the back corner of Walmart. Get it tailored, spend a lot of money, buy several, and get them cleaned often. I think nerds hate suits vociferously because they always wear the most ill fitting awful suits that do nothing but advertise their own inferiority above all else. Your suit should make you feel and look like a king, not a goddamn peasant Oh yeah definitely this. Get something with a trendy cut if you're young (or if you're old, gently caress it) and be prepared to spend a little money. Suit supply has some cool stuff if you have one in the area.
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qhat posted:Here's a tip: if you're gonna wear a suit, don't go wearing the cheapest loving three piece you can find in the back corner of Walmart. Get it tailored, spend a lot of money, buy several, and get them cleaned often. I think nerds hate suits vociferously because they always wear the most ill fitting awful suits that do nothing but advertise their own inferiority above all else. Your suit should make you feel and look like a king, not a goddamn peasant this. want to look pro generally for not much money? get cheap off the rack stuff, then get everything tailored, including random t-shirts. that and get basic dress shoes, e.g. cap toe, learn how to polish them, and take care of them frequently. shoe trees are you friend damnit.
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constantly bummed in phone interviews about having to choose whether to pause and gather my thoughts, which makes interviewers panic, or just speak from the cuff and come out completely incoherent
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Gazpacho posted:which makes interviewers panic oh totally
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I interviewed with a company today and it was a startup but I also really liked the company and if the figgies are right maybe I’ll do it but change is scary. as much as my current position frustrates me it’s a p great gig so leaving would not be easy The interview itself went really well tho We’ll see what happens I guess 🤷♀️
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Achmed Jones posted:I interviewed with a company today and it was a startup but I also really liked the company and if the figgies are right maybe I’ll do it but change is scary. as much as my current position frustrates me it’s a p great gig so leaving would not be easy be careful don't leap for the first rope that presents itself. there will be other gigs.
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Nov 7, 2018 04:54
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Gazpacho posted:constantly bummed in phone interviews about having to choose whether to pause and gather my thoughts, which makes interviewers panic, or just speak from the cuff and come out completely incoherent why don't you just say "let me think about this for a second" or something
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Gazpacho posted:constantly bummed in phone interviews about having to choose whether to pause and gather my thoughts, which makes interviewers panic, or just speak from the cuff and come out completely incoherent i generally repeated the problem statement and some facts about the setup to make it clear that I was thinking also has the nice side effect that they will likely correct you if you misunderstood something
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Gazpacho posted:constantly bummed in phone interviews about having to choose whether to pause and gather my thoughts, which makes interviewers panic, or just speak from the cuff and come out completely incoherent its definitely fair to say "wow, thats a great question, let me consider that for a moment..." and then gather your thoughts before responding
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just accepted an offer with a company that im super stoked on that comes with a nice pay bump and a drastically reduced commute. thanks to the folks itt for encouragement and answering my dumb questions
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Kind Friend posted:just accepted an offer with a company that im super stoked on that comes with a nice pay bump and a drastically reduced commute. thanks to the folks itt for encouragement and answering my dumb questions goons, getting paid
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unlocking the above post
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Ragtime All The Time posted:phone interview in 2 hours hmmmm well that could have gone better. was expecting more technical questions but only got stuff about ideal managers and handling conflict. the interviewer didn’t seem very knowledgeable or enthusiastic about the position and couldn’t provide much info directly related to the position. if the description lists “some travel required” and you can’t give me an idea of how much that actually is... arrgghhhhg  interviewing sucks my dilz
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Ragtime All The Time posted:hmmmm well that could have gone better. was expecting more technical questions but only got stuff about ideal managers and handling conflict. the interviewer didn’t seem very knowledgeable or enthusiastic about the position and couldn’t provide much info directly related to the position. if the description lists “some travel required” and you can’t give me an idea of how much that actually is... Look on the bright side, seems like a few red flags if you wanna blow em off, if you think a position isn't gonna be a good fit its nice to be able to short circuit the process.
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Achmed Jones posted:I interviewed with a company today and it was a startup but I also really liked the company and if the figgies are right maybe I’ll do it but change is scary. as much as my current position frustrates me it’s a p great gig so leaving would not be easy Should I re apply under s different alias?
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ADINSX posted:Look on the bright side, seems like a few red flags if you wanna blow em off, if you think a position isn't gonna be a good fit its nice to be able to short circuit the process. Sometimes the first phone screen is someone from HR or a recruitment consultancy who know nothing about the role and you just have to deal with it
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pointsofdata posted:Sometimes the first phone screen is someone from HR or a recruitment consultancy who know nothing about the role and you just have to deal with it yeah thats what it must have been. I saw “technical recruiter” in their title and assumed that it would be more focused than generalized views into ideal work life balance.
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I got an email today wanting to set up a phone screen for a position I applied for three months ago. Can you hire anyone operating with that kind of turnaround time? In any case it felt real good to send a 'sorry pal I took another job in September' email.
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Asleep Style posted:I got an email today wanting to set up a phone screen for a position I applied for three months ago. Can you hire anyone operating with that kind of turnaround time? In any case it felt real good to send a 'sorry pal I took another job in September' email. this poo poo is ~ power law i got one 10 months late once lol at saying that applicants are the problem w/ interviewing
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Nov 8, 2018 04:59
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people are lazy about managing applicants because nearly all of the applicants are trash the math of the situation dictates that nobody has real good incentives
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nothing kills my interest faster than a complicated timed code exercise in a language i said i don't have much experience in, with no option to change it, and no one on the other end to complain to
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Flaming June posted:nothing kills my interest faster than a complicated timed code exercise in a language i said i don't have much experience in, with no option to change it, and no one on the other end to complain to I see you’ve also interviewed with palantir
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Asleep Style posted:I got an email today wanting to set up a phone screen for a position I applied for three months ago. Can you hire anyone operating with that kind of turnaround time? In any case it felt real good to send a 'sorry pal I took another job in September' email. one of the fed jobs i applied to back in april just got back to me with an offer after never contacting me at anytime since then it truly is wondrous that people are able to get hired anywhere
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Just signed up for hired.com, hope it's better than the usual spam from recruitment sites
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i always figured that contacting you months after you apply was a sign that the guy they hired didnt work out so before they start the whole expensive hunt up again why not see if any of the better qualified applicants they passed on are still available. a longshot (esp in this labor market) but hey if it pays out it can save the company a lot of time and effort and money
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how hard would it be for me to find work in the usa as a well paid finance computer toucher i have experience at ripping out services from big old systems and integrating them with other services. also i have worked both in banks and broking/trading companies
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