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I think it's fine that people have different definitions of the word art, but for me it's pretty cut and dry. Art is something that someone finds artistic value in and that's pretty much it. The subjective part is why they find artistic value in it, and not if it qualifies as art in the first place.
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veni veni veni posted:I think it's fine that people have different definitions of the word art, but for me it's pretty cut and dry. Art is something that someone finds artistic value in and that's pretty much it. The subjective part is why they find artistic value in it, and not if it qualifies as art in the first place. yes, but obviously people have to assign meaning to something for there to be a possible hypothetical consensus on its value. what is your personal subjective definition of art?
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Oct 8, 2018 17:25
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hey, so i was meaning to get myself out there in terms of commissions and i'm not sure where to start in terms of digital art. i got a few way back but nowadays, i keep screwing up and not getting paid due to miscommunication.
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Oct 9, 2018 15:15
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Where are you looking for them? It's something I'm looking at as well, but I have no idea where to start.
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Oct 9, 2018 17:08
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:All I know is that there are people out there who get real antsy about art-as-an-emotion, and the fact that art isn't a universal constant that you can use to brand things as Definitely Art™. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVFasyCvEOg I miss Hennessey Youngman.
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Oct 13, 2018 22:43
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Wooooh what a crazy inktober rite? I mean we were all doing it yeah? YEAH.
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Nov 1, 2018 00:36
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Hell ye'ah!
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Nov 1, 2018 07:39
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Yeah! Though I'm kinda glad that it's done and I can take a... lol, nope, straight onto the next project.
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Nov 1, 2018 15:36
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#everydayisinktober
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Nov 1, 2018 15:45
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Ink in mah veins, ink in mah brains.
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Nov 1, 2018 21:51
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6 hours sleep 8 hours work 12 hours inking 2 hours travel Someone help me budget this, my brain is dying.
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That's... a problem. Sneak in inking at work? Sleep while travelling? It's the local illustration fair this weekend. They didn't want me, so I'll be pouting a bit. And stealing everyone's ideas. I think the main reason I didn't get in was just not having enough stuff, everyone always has badges and pins and posters and all sorts of stuff. I don't. Of course, the problem is finding the cash to build up a stock of 
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lofi posted:That's... a problem. Sneak in inking at work? Sleep while travelling? This is the site I use for my crap: https://zapcreatives.com They do stickers, plastic and wooden charms, metal charms and pins (too expensive imo). They can take their sweet time getting your products done during busy seasons like approaching christmas, but the quality has always been good, and the prices are affordable and you get to pick many different designs for smallish runs, which is the reason I use them. The reason they're cheap is because you do all the work to prepare the products for their machines - they've got premade templates and guides on how you should set them up. Anyway, it's pretty easy to make your own fridge magnets by ordering magnets from aliexpress and gluing them on some plastic charms, or making your own keychains by ordering keychain locks - again from aliexpress because yesss cheap china poo poo is the best - and then doing some plierwork with bits of chain and jump rings. Same for pin backs - most of my findings I get off alix. I haven't made jewellery, but that would be easy enough as well from the charms, but you're better off looking to your local craft stores or goldsmith suppliers if you want real silver string or findings. If you've not used alix before, certain reservations apply when ordering stuff direct from china. Keep smart, check reviews, always read any text in the listing, double-check size and material. Just 'cause the listing headline says "steel jump ring" doesn't mean that the actual info inside the listing says the material is steel and also neither is the product and now you're wondering why you didn't just pay the 20 cents more to get the actual steel ones like you did before.
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Thanks, that's really helpful advice for where I'm at right now - starting to put together some inventory for Next Time. The Illustration fair was vaugely terrifying, there had to have been over a hundred stalls, all with such amazing stuff. Christ knows how anyone makes a profit off the thing, but I guess they must or they wouldn't do it, right?
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I知 in the final stages of prep for my first art fair, and oh vey I知 starting to feel the pressure    I think the final total of prints is going to be around 150, and I have seriously no clue how much of that is coming back home with me. Hive mind: how much would you pay for 8x10, 11x14, and 16x16? My initial thought for price is $20/25/30, but could I do 20/30/40?
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My advice from what I saw yesterday is to be ready to adjust, know what your minimum is - I saw some stalls that had overpriced stuff relative to the ones around them, and they seemed pretty dead. I don't have a clue on what prices you should go for beyond that, I'm super-skint so that biases me badly. Your prints look really good!
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lofi posted:Christ knows how anyone makes a profit off the thing, but I guess they must or they wouldn't do it, right? Faires can be hit or miss, where especially multi-day events can have days where you sell nothing all day and days where you're struggling to keep up with the sales. It can just be luck, depending on how well your art matches the personalities of the people who come over. I've only done a few, and never came out of them empty-handed, but I've seen other people selling different kind of stuff get practically no sales. I learned a lot just talking to the other sellers around me. Presentation can mean a lot! If you haven't thought about how you're gonna set up your table when you get your faire, now's a good time to get building some simple display thingies - like ..scaffoldings? (I really don't know the word for the setups) that rise up that you can set on your table so you can get as much of your art on display as possible. There's too much to see at faires for people whose interest you don't immediately catch to thumb through a portfolio. dupersaurus posted:I think the final total of prints is going to be around 150, and I have seriously no clue how much of that is coming back home with me. Congrats on finishing The Grind! Honestly the prices are gonna depend on your local price range, I hope you have a friend to help you so you can scope out the competition during the day! Keep your numbers padded enough so you can take some off to convince a hesitant buyer or to offer a combo deal if someone wants several pieces. I am also personally a cheapskate and would probably buy at the lower price range and hesitate at the 40. Then again, there are people - not artists 'cause all artists are poors - who don't even blink at dropping 100 bux on a casual fair purchase. It might be a good idea to have a few "rare prints" at a higher price, that you haven't made many of to see if anyone bites.
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dupersaurus posted:I知 in the final stages of prep for my first art fair, and oh vey I知 starting to feel the pressure I've had good luck using a "day rate" to calculate costs for things I make, it keeps things concrete and prevents me from under-charging like I always want to do.
In addition, I've also had some luck selling misprints at a discounted price, with a couple tiers of misprints ranging from huge mistakes (printed one color upside down, color didn't take, etc) for 80-90% off, to smaller mistakes (small scratches or <1mm misalignment) being 10-15% off.
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Awww yeah, look at these beauties arrived today: I'm well pleased with how they've come out, it's like I can't appreciate my art till it's mass produced. Makes it feel more real, somehow.
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dupersaurus posted:I知 in the final stages of prep for my first art fair, and oh vey I知 starting to feel the pressure What kind of art fair is it? Juried, indoor, outdoor? After doing fairs for 5+ years, the thing that stands out the most to me is that different fairs have vastly different outcomes. I have done crafty fairs where no one seemed to buy anything from anyone and been in juried fairs with long histories where I sell multiple originals. I have also been in juried fairs where I didn't make the booth fee back and my neighbors complained of poor sales. I've been in church basements where I sold like crazy. You might have to try different fairs to see where your clients are. I sell 5x7s matted to 8x10 for $25 and these are giclees, not hand pulled prints. I would start with your 8x10s at $25 or more. I bought a 10x10" screen print for myself this year for $30 FWIW. My best sellers are greeting cards for $5. My "business model" - if you could call it that - is completely different than hand-pulled prints though. I make 2-4 large drawings a year and each takes maybe 100 hours. I scan and sell prints I make with a giclee printer I bought myself and mat them because I have a source of cheap scrap mats. I am lucky if I sell one large original a year, but I sell several 5x7 matted to 8x10 and a few 8x10 matted to 11x14" each show, along with 10-25 cards. I make my card printing fuckups into magnets and have sold a few as well. I have found people like to have something affordable to buy. On the other hand, I know successful art fair artists who go the completely opposite route and would never sell anything under $50. My art is so niche that I assume I won't sell the originals, but I can make them worth the work they take by selling the prints and I think I at least break even in that respect. Art fairs are a complex beast. I love them and they can be completely demoralizing and exhausting. They can also be magical. I hope yours goes well for you.
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lofi posted:Awww yeah, look at these beauties arrived today:
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 Thanks! I mostly draw comics, so I guess it makes sense my style fits print well.
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It痴 the city痴 big holiday craft market, kinda the spirit of an outdoor market inside. This is my first one so I知 definitely going in blind and seeing what I can learn. It痴 going to be interesting...lofi posted:Awww yeah, look at these beauties arrived today: Snazzy
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Our cosplay/photography team is guesting at a mini-con this weekend. Really looking forward to it since it's at a library and a bit more education focused which we're big on (some members are doing panels on costume planning/budgeting and wig styling). Hopefully we do end up selling more prints compared to a somewhat unofficial outing at a local retrogaming convention. Now if I could just get another local convention to actually reply to me about our Dealers Room application. I've tried multiple ways to get any info out of them and have been met with pretty much complete silence. Though the fact they have yet to announce any guests less than two months before the event does not give me much confidence.
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ReverendHammer posted:Our cosplay/photography team is guesting at a mini-con this weekend. Really looking forward to it since it's at a library and a bit more education focused which we're big on (some members are doing panels on costume planning/budgeting and wig styling). Hopefully we do end up selling more prints compared to a somewhat unofficial outing at a local retrogaming convention. God drat that Whataburger set. Even without the model, it would still be hot af.
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XBenedict posted:God drat that Whataburger set. Even without the model, it would still be hot af. We'll have a couple of prints from that set available at the mini-con and I'm really curious how those will go over. I mean it's pretty much the most Texas as gently caress thing we've done so far. Well, maybe up until we turn Tacocat into her own food based original character.
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Maybe you gentlegoons can help me. I want to commission a digital painting that can be printed out and framed. Basically I want a classical piece of artwork changed slightly a couple items removed and new things added. I know I am being vague, but it's something to do with the forums. Along the same lines as this thing here: https://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com/blogs/art-spotlight-one-nation-under-cthulhu.htm but I don't want nearly as much changed really. What's the best way to go about finding someone to do this? Should I make a post in SA Mart? I looked at some random commission website briefly at a bunch of random anime characters people will draw me, but maybe there are better ones. Thanks for any input.
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The jobs thread should be able to help you.
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Do you know or follow any artists who work in a similar style to what you want done? If yes then try asking them what their commission prices are.
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Exciting news (for me)! My comics are now for sale at the local comic shop! Sweet sweet validation, now I'm at least as proper artist as everyone else on the indie rack that's pretty much behind the door! (The irony is that my first thing in there isn't a 'real' comic, but a compilation of my Inktober work) Now I just gotta wait for those sweet sale-or-return megabux to start rolling in, and work on something else
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Hey any of y'alls got any tattooing knowledge? I know very little, just bits and bobs. I've been asked to design a tattoo, again, and after the last time when I swore I never never NEVER would do it again, again... still said "yea ok". I know not to put too much detail in small areas, but I've now seen several of my designs being inked like line weight is not a Thing at all. It has severely hosed up the results where the tattoo artist has just gone through the middle of lines with a needle thinner than the lines were meant for, including just ignoring shadows bound into the lines. Should I hedge my bets and design for just one line weight, assuming the rest will be area-fill or greyscale in order to make it less gently caress-uppable by the tattoo artist? Or can I do various line weights with "lol it's your problem if you go cheap on your artist"?
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Maybe try the tattoo megathread in YLLS. There's at least a handful of tattoo artists in there might be able to give you some pointers.
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Yessss great idea, thanks!
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Sharpest Crayon posted:Hey any of y'alls got any tattooing knowledge? I know very little, just bits and bobs. I've been asked to design a tattoo, again, and after the last time when I swore I never never NEVER would do it again, again... still said "yea ok". I would design it with the intention that the tattoo artist will make alterations to make it function as a piece of body art, and make sure that your customer understands the difference between going to a cheap artist and a good artist. There's more to think about than just line weight, and a good tattoo artist will be able to get variations in line weight as well as altering the tattoo so that it fits into the curves and bumps of the area it's being tattooed on - the human body doesn't have any flat areas on it and a decent artist will be able to work with that fact, rather than just being a human xerox machine that exists only to copy designs.
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ignore everything everyone in this thread all said tattoo the person with like an exacto blade or paper clip and some ink you have been collecting in your prison toilet from bic pens from the consignement store.make it of a bad rear end robed lizard cracking the world open like an egg and spilling the molten core into space. anyway guys gotta run my consignment internet rental is almost over, it too me 87 hours of work to afford the ten minute session
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FunkyAl posted:ignore everything everyone in this thread all said tattoo the person with like an exacto blade or paper clip and some ink you have been collecting in your prison toilet from bic pens from the consignement store.make it of a bad rear end robed lizard cracking the world open like an egg and spilling the molten core into space. anyway guys gotta run my consignment internet rental is almost over, it too me 87 hours of work to afford the ten minute session Finally some real advice! I already got my ink made from the charred bones of my enemies. I'm also using the bones as the needles. It's gonna be a wizard skull with a skull tattoo. Tattooed on their skull.
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I find the best thing to do when someone asks me to design a tattoo for them is tell them yes and then just never do it.
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Print out a dickbutt and charge them 
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Baby's first art fair is in the books and it was surprisingly... medium? Total sales were more than I expected but less than I hoped for (about half of them to friends), but I managed to pay for all of the one-time investments and then maybe 75% of the supply costs on top of that. But I learned a lot from watching people wander by and browse that should carry over good for next time:
I'm actually pretty interested to do more markets. This was targeted as a holiday shopping opportunity, so I wonder if the mindset of the shoppers were different than at one of the spring or summer shows. But now to see how good Etsy can be to me. 
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Glad it went well!
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