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polyester concept posted:crosspost from yospos Not a garbage can, but it belongs in one.
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Only put audiophile-grade garbage in this speaker.
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Oct 12, 2018 22:35
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polyester concept posted:crosspost from yospos pff. I beg to differ. The badge says so
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Oct 12, 2018 22:36
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A real w-bin has ways of ejecting rubbish thrown into it.
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Oct 13, 2018 01:06
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That's a photoshop, I can tell from the pixels.
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Oct 13, 2018 04:18
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A friend asked for somewhere to shop for some kit for his dad's setup, his dad just wants to plug his turntable in to listen to some vinyl. I pointed him in the direction of Richersounds which is a UK company selling decently priced kit from first hi-fi upwards and said don't worry about amp quality, don't worry about speaker cables or interconnects and that the speaker he buys would make the most difference to the sound. Instantly some goober starts furiously tapping away at his keyboard saying that I'd obviously never dealt with 'real' hi-fi and that I didn't know what I was talking about. He tried arguing that vinyl was the best medium for music possible, followed closely by 24bit 192khz hi res audio. So I listed half a dozen technical reasons why he was wrong about his belief in vinyl. I'm yet to have a reply back. It's been 24 hours and I'm sad. He clearly reads too much 'What Hi-Fi' but doesn't actually know gently caress all about the formats he chats about. Why are audiophiles such dickheads because they've spunked a few quid on kit?
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Nov 8, 2018 15:22
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Why are audiophiles such dickheads because they've spunked a few quid on kit? Same reason this sub is known as 'Defend Your Purchase'. They have to convince themselves they haven't just thrown away a ton of money and ohhh yeah I can hear the difference now they've been warmed in etc.
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Nov 8, 2018 16:22
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I'm also sure a large part is performative snobbery. Most of the committed audiophiles I've known have also had several additional consumerist avenues where they have exceptionally specific, belaboured and distinct tastes - wine, coffee, cigars, cars, etc.
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Nov 8, 2018 17:40
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Flawless logic.
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Nov 8, 2018 19:05
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ynohtna posted:I'm also sure a large part is performative snobbery. Most of the committed audiophiles I've known have also had several additional consumerist avenues where they have exceptionally specific, belaboured and distinct tastes - wine, coffee, cigars, cars, etc.
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Nov 8, 2018 19:27
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No "grindcore on a Bluetooth speaker and bud lite" trolls?
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Nov 8, 2018 19:51
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Flawless logic. Patently unassailable
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Nov 8, 2018 20:32
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What's the opposite to being an elitist based on amount of money spent? Because that's the snobbery I perform. Half my kit has been literally salavaged from garbage dumps.
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Nov 9, 2018 02:02
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A Lone Girl Flier posted:What's the opposite to being an elitist based on amount of money spent? Because that's the snobbery I perform. Pfft. loving Millenials killing audiophiles now Wait
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Nov 9, 2018 02:31
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A Lone Girl Flier posted:What's the opposite to being an elitist based on amount of money spent? Because that's the snobbery I perform. Pride of the Tinker. 
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Nov 9, 2018 02:56
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A friend of a friend recently posted on FB that they've bought a Plinius 8150 amplifier. Not being familiar with that I Googled it and first thing I found was a $3,395 price tag. Then I found this article: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-plinius-8150-integrated-amplifier-2016-07-12-integrateds-94107-san-francisco-caquote:There's an inevitable sense of rightness to the sound of the 8150. It is truly an amplifier that has it all. Tonal purity, harmonics, detail and dynamics were all there. I'm not sure if I have the heart to tell him that he's purchased a pile of trash. Also when I asked about price in comments he dodged the question because I think he's trying to hide that from his missus.
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Nov 9, 2018 13:06
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It's always better to know you hosed up so you don't do it again
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Nov 9, 2018 13:21
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A Lone Girl Flier posted:What's the opposite to being an elitist based on amount of money spent? Because that's the snobbery I perform. I have some kit hoarded that's been rescued from various places, audio gear is a really weird world considering the tech really hasn't changed much over the years, particularly speakers. People who feel the need to upgrade every couple of years are odd but if they want to go at it and sell/donate perfectly fine gear then great, you do you. Pile Of Garbage posted:A friend of a friend recently posted on FB that they've bought a Plinius 8150 amplifier. Not being familiar with that I Googled it and first thing I found was a $3,395 price tag. Then I found this article: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-plinius-8150-integrated-amplifier-2016-07-12-integrateds-94107-san-francisco-ca Man, an amp that adds emphasis to midrange and bass is................ not a remotely accurate amp. $3395 to have unwanted EQ added to your music.
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Nov 9, 2018 13:38
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Well at least they aren't spending $$$ on horses
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Nov 10, 2018 01:33
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Poor old freckles, thought of ants and died
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Nov 10, 2018 04:06
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Poor old freckles, thought of amps and died Fixed.
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Nov 10, 2018 04:22
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Powered Descent posted:Fixed. 
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Nov 10, 2018 04:58
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Pile Of Garbage posted:A friend of a friend recently posted on FB that they've bought a Plinius 8150 amplifier. Not being familiar with that I Googled it and first thing I found was a $3,395 price tag. Then I found this article: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-plinius-8150-integrated-amplifier-2016-07-12-integrateds-94107-san-francisco-ca The Plinius amps are amazingly nice, well-built amplifiers, and you're just butthurt you can't afford one. (I do agree they're overpriced though) Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 03:48
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Nov 11, 2018 04:04
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Brain Issues posted:The Plinius amps are amazingly nice, well-built amplifiers, and you're just butthurt you can't afford one. Nice brand tribalism buddy.
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Nov 11, 2018 07:44
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Pile Of Garbage posted:Nice brand tribalism buddy. I don't own one. I have listened to most of their current lineup though. Most recently it was their Reference A-300 paired with KEF Blade 2s, that setup was incredible. Here is an SA-103 I listened to on Blade 2's 
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Nov 11, 2018 13:23
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You don't listen to amps.
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Nov 11, 2018 13:32
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KozmoNaut posted:You don't listen to amps. Oh right, yeah, I forgot all amps sound the same.  So which is it, the Plinius amps are garbage or all amps sound the same?
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Nov 11, 2018 13:37
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All properly built amps sound the same and anything else is wrong.
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Nov 11, 2018 15:01
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Brain Issues posted:Oh right, yeah, I forgot all amps sound the same.  If your amp is doing anything other than just, you know, amplifying the signal source you have a poo poo amp
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Nov 11, 2018 15:02
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Apparently we don't need to go to any external forums or websites to ridicule audiophiles. They're in this thread.
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Nov 11, 2018 16:08
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D1E posted:Apparently we don't need to go to any external forums or websites to ridicule audiophiles. I'm simply playing devils advocate. My own system is not over the top and pretty value-oriented (KEF R300, Polk PSW505 subwoofer, Onkyo TX-NR737 receiver, Project Debut Carbon). However, "Pile of Garbage" was calling the Plinius amp garbage because one guy (who was trying to sell his, nonetheless) claims it accentuated bass and adds "fullness" or whatever the gently caress, with no measurements performed or anything, just purely anecdotal evidence. Look at measurements for the Plinius amps that have been done by Stereophile and you'll find they've measured quite well.
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Nov 11, 2018 16:14
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I’ve just finished setting up a ‘listening cafe’ that has £32,000 of PMC MB2 SE and a Bryston 4B amp. They held back on the £5k of Chord cables so we used some nice looking UK made bulk ones, I might have made up the name of the manufacturer and price when asked by the DJ and visitors where they’re from.. Also, this is gold https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyWt3kANA3Q
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Neurophonic posted:I’ve just finished setting up a ‘listening cafe’ that has £32,000 of PMC MB2 SE and a Bryston 4B amp. They held back on the £5k of Chord cables so we used some nice looking UK made bulk ones, I might have made up the name of the manufacturer and price when asked by the DJ and visitors where they’re from..  Care to share the name/location of the cafe?
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Nov 11, 2018 19:09
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Brain Issues posted:Oh right, yeah, I forgot all amps sound the same.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:46
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lmao what
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Nov 11, 2018 19:53
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Good luck with this, people who have never heard anything other than a $15 t-amp from eBay hooked up to musty garage sale 70s speakers via coathangers love to post here about how anything more expensive is cable crystals-level snake oil. I think the argument is more that beyond a certain price point it's all snake oil because the amp is effectively perfectly transparent. I don't know what amps they use in high end recording studios for monitoring, but I'd say spending much more money than they do (when the quality of their product literally depends on the quality of the sound coming out of the amp) is going to be a waste. sebmojo fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 20:10
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Yes. There is a limit to human perception, and it's far, far crappier than you think.
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Nov 11, 2018 20:11
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Based on that link the top end amp (benchmark AHB2) retails for $3k.
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Brain Issues posted:I'm simply playing devils advocate. You're so bad at it you should be disbarred.
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