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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Alright, Here's the revised list of The Gay Mac Saga episodes: Toss in The Gang Gets Analyzed. "A well-placed pen can have quite an effect on a man like him. This must have given him quite the thrill. I bet he tried to suck on this. Did he? Huh? It's okay, Doc."
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vseslav.botkin posted:I really like seeing the gang get a win every once in a while -- obviously a big part of humor is surprise, so tonight was a real treat for me. One of my favorite moments of the show, along with Charlie giving Brad Fisher a box of hornets and walking away totally pleased with himself. Charlie and Mac beating the utter poo poo out of those kids in this very season, then hiding in the back of Dennis' landrover 
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Nov 11, 2018 02:43
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Nov 11, 2018 02:54
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Tokelau All Star posted:Toss in The Gang Gets Analyzed. "A well-placed pen can have quite an effect on a man like him. This must have given him quite the thrill. I bet he tried to suck on this. Did he? Huh? It's okay, Doc." Good call! If they ever remake American Psycho Glenn Howerton is the ONLY choice for the lead.
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Nov 11, 2018 03:18
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I may be forgetting something, but this is the second grossest thing I've seen on the show after Dee's pinkeye.
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Nov 11, 2018 04:33
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That dance was amazing. Never say this show doesn't at least swing for the fences
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Nov 11, 2018 04:39
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:If they ever remake American Psycho Glenn Howerton is the ONLY choice for the lead. i really want to see him do well cause hes scary good at his job but his other parts have been so small/similar that its hard for me to separate him from dennis and i fear its hard for others too 
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Nov 11, 2018 04:41
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I don’t think this show gets its due as one of the best shows of all time regardless of genre. I felt that way before this episode but this was like the cherry on top.
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Nov 11, 2018 05:16
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Krankenstyle posted:i really want to see him do well cause hes scary good at his job but his other parts have been so small/similar that its hard for me to separate him from dennis and i fear its hard for others too I dont think thats really that big of a deal. Plenty of actors get identified from 1 or 2 major roles in their career. They still do ok. I mean Bruce Willis is still always John McClain and Arnold Schwarzenegger is always going to be the terminator. Even when they have entirely different roles, its still who they are and the movies are still fine.
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Nov 11, 2018 05:43
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That's because they have no acting range
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Nov 11, 2018 05:45
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precision posted:That dance was amazing. Never say this show doesn't at least swing for the fences I don't think anyone has ever accused this show of not swinging for the fences. It's got to, because if it doesn't, then it won't cross the line twice, and that's the only thing that makes some of the more cringey scenes funny. (Of course, now that I say that, I can think of a couple/few episodes this season that felt kind-of lazy....) ((Yeah, this season was real hit-and-miss for me.)) And, yeah, the dance was amazing. SLICK GOKU BABY posted:I mean Bruce Willis is still always John McClain I think you mean, "... John McClain will always be David Addison," because Bruce Willis is David Addison, and so is John McClain. (When I was a kid, my mom bought the album he released in the 80s. The cassette, anyway. And I listened to it a lot. And I liked it.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4LqmyjexA tarlibone fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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tarlibone posted:I think you mean, "... John McClain will always be David Addison," because Bruce Willis is David Addison, and so is John McClain. moonlighting was a great show
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:I dont think thats really that big of a deal. Plenty of actors get identified from 1 or 2 major roles in their career. They still do ok. Actually Bruce was the goofy guy from moonlighting until he did die hard and so on They need to break from their breakthrough character
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Lmao sorry, replied before I saw y'all mention moonlighting
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Just watched the episode, and it was easy to get what they were doing, and they delivered. It was pretty emotional.
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I will maintain until the day I die that Mac in The Gang Gets Racist responding to Terrell's "I took him to the alley and I tore his rear end apart" with "I would like to do stuff like that" was the first hint at his evil, homo ways
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Aye Doc posted:I will maintain until the day I die that Mac in The Gang Gets Racist responding to Terrell's "I took him to the alley and I tore his rear end apart" with "I would like to do stuff like that" was the first hint at his evil, homo ways One of the reasons the Mac is gay story feels so organic is even before the show was intentionally hinting at it, the show was unintentionally hinting at it.
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It feels like the show was hinting at it from season 1 honestly
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'We're going to do some rear end blasting of our own'
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"...not gay sex."
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Well he dated Carmen in S1, so yeah, it was always there in some way. Its tough to know if they had any actual mind to say that he was closeted or repressed at the time or if it was just a general laugh about how much he overcompensates. Like, I was just watching "Dennis and Dee Get a New Dad" and Mac and Charlie spend the entire episode talking about how "hard" they want to get and "pounding on" the pedophile dad. I don't think that was hinting at something deeper so much as it was just some juvenile humor at their dense expense. My guess is it was always kind of an idea in their back of their minds and it just developed organically. Like, I just finished S2 and there's no hints of Mac's crush on Dennis. Hell, there's even a few moments that feel off because Dennis is copying Mac or Mac is dismissing Dennis. I think stuff like that just developed over time.
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NOTHING SEXUAL I can't believe Mac missed an opportunity to hook up with Sam Witmer.
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Got around to watching the episode. DID NOT SEE ANY OF THAT COMING. Not many (if any?) episodes have a somber tone like that. Only a few jokes sprinkled in. And the ending was something else. I liked it. I'm glad they didn't cheapen it with a joke at the very end. My guess is that Frank is going to try to relate more to Mac by incorrectly talking to him about "gay" stuff.
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Cojawfee posted:That's because they have no acting range Arnold is amazing in every facet of his life besides acting and probably being a governor but his acting is definitely god awful, god bless him though.
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Doltos posted:Arnold is amazing in every facet of his life besides acting and probably being a governor but his acting is definitely god awful, god bless him though. Arnold is a lot of things, but a bad actor isn't one of them. When I was in film school, we had to take some classes in the drama department to make us more well-rounded than just technical filmmakers, and the department head, a working actor you've probably seen play Cop #3 in like five shows and seven movies but would never know his name, imparted on us two lessons I'll never forget: 1.) Get typecast. Don't run from it. When one casting director remembers how solid you were as the aforementioned Cop #3, you will never hurt for bit work and now you have your bills paid as you seek out more interesting parts. and 2.) There are actors, and there are movie stars. And lots of actors are movie stars, and not all movie stars are actors, but once Hollywood loves you for doing one thing, the fact that you can do other poo poo kind of ceases to matter, because both the executives and the public at large kinda' only want to see you do that one thing. Arnold, just within the Terminator series, played the same role several times, and it always changed. But in T1, he was a slasher villain and in T2, he had to do understated comedy and action-hero stuff and a litany of other subdued stuff and it's all very subtle until T3 and let's not talk about anything beyond that. Another good example of this is H. Jon Benjamin, who can do a litany of voices, but almost every time he gets in a sound booth, the direction he's given is "just do McGuirk."
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The actress who plays Mac’s mom is playing Jon Voight’s character’s sister in this season of Ray Donovan. It’s the most i’ve ever seen her speak.
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RestingB1tchFace posted:Got around to watching the episode. DID NOT SEE ANY OF THAT COMING. Not many (if any?) episodes have a somber tone like that. Only a few jokes sprinkled in. And the ending was something else. I liked it. I'm glad they didn't cheapen it with a joke at the very end. The point was to remove the "gay Mac" joke they've been running with since Season 1. This episode was dead serious specifically because the main barrier to normalizing Mac's sexuality was the most bigoted main character in the show, Frank. Remember that Frank was the one who exclaimed "Look out, human being" triggering Mac's 'coming out' episode last season. As long as Frank was a bigot (against gay people anyway) there was no way for Mac and Frank to exist without Frank insulting Mac's sexuality. I'm sure the writers also didn't want there to be an implied continuing animosity between Mac and Frank. The show's characters do "hate" each other, but they're family, and having an outright homophobe in a group with a gay man is a touchy dynamic for a comedy show. Most of this episode was Mac painfully trying to explain to Frank why he wasn't the stereotype that Frank thought he was. Another issue is the writers didn't want to entirely dismiss the prejudice that gay people face day-to-day, so they needed a way to get rid of the on-screen bigots without saying that homophobia no longer exists. Therefore Frank is redeemed, while Mac's father symbolizes the ongoing struggle for acceptance that gay people face; but since he is an absentee father he can go away and the show can move on. Frank and the other prisoners symbolize the shelter from overwhelming hatred that gay people can find in a changing world. Mac's transition from closeted gay man, to confused-but-out gay man, to confident and accepted gay man lets the writers dump the gay joke entirely and venture into non-gay reasons why Mac is a total idiot and piece of poo poo. Why do the writers want to do that? Because the audience wanted Mac to come out, but making Mac a gay man killed his character's joke: that he's extremely conservative and acts out in overly masculine and homoerotic ways because he's in the closet. tl:dr: Having Mac be a victim of prejudice on an ongoing basis isn't funny. Also, Jesus, that dance routine was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen on TV. Dolphin fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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STAC Goat posted:Well he dated Carmen in S1, so yeah, it was always there in some way. She's still a woman and he viewed her as such at the time, it's not a sign that he was gay.
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honestly you’re nuts if you think they’ve been building up mac as gay since season one
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romanowski posted:honestly you’re nuts if you think they’ve been building up mac as gay since season one They've been building up Mac as a guy who's incredibly unconfident in his own sexuality since season one - it just dovetails nicely into him being gay.
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Yeah, the hypermasculine guy having some insecurities and gay impulses is a pretty stock joke and that's clearly all they were doing originally
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Nov 12, 2018 15:47
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In all this discussion about the origin of Gay Mac, I can't believe Charlie Got Molested isn't part of your considerations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQHWqBgqck
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romanowski posted:honestly you’re nuts if you think they’ve been building up mac as gay since season one
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I haven't watched all of it's always sunny, seeing just random episodes from random seasons but I find it odd how the actor plays Mac in the new season (only seen two episodes of it). He seems way more toned down and not much like Mac from previous seasons. I don't mind if the character grew a little but it feels like there aren't many mannerisms that resemble Mac at all. He's way more of a straight man now and I found it a little off. He feels like a different character altogether. But I haven't seen the rest of the season or the season before that so I dunno if it's a gradual change.
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DuhSal posted:I haven't watched all of it's always sunny, seeing just random episodes from random seasons but I find it odd how the actor plays Mac in the new season (only seen two episodes of it). He seems way more toned down and not much like Mac from previous seasons. I don't mind if the character grew a little but it feels like there aren't many mannerisms that resemble Mac at all. He's way more of a straight man now and I found it a little off. He feels like a different character altogether. But I haven't seen the rest of the season or the season before that so I dunno if it's a gradual change.
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DuhSal posted:He's way more of a straight man now I don't know about that 
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Pharmaskittle posted:Yeah, the hypermasculine guy having some insecurities and gay impulses is a pretty stock joke and that's clearly all they were doing originally Yeah, that's all I meant to say. He definitely wasn't gay at the start but it was obviously a joke to undermine his hyper masculine self identity with insecurities and blind spots and it just evolved. Ammonsa posted:She's still a woman and he viewed her as such at the time, it's not a sign that he was gay. Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to try she wasn't a woman or anything like that. Just that obviously the way they played it was as Mac being defensive and secretive. But again, I think back in S1 it was just a gag at his macho behavior and how he wanted to be perceived. The actual "Mac is gay" stuff didn't start up until later. I apologize for what I can see was obviously a super bad way to say it that kind of suggested Carmen was a gay dude. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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