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on the one hand youre wasting their time by interviewing after youve already accepted an offer on the other hand they probably wont remember you in six months anyway (unless your local job market is real small)
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Tetramin posted:I’ve accepted an offer and have a start date of 11/19, but I have an interview set for this coming Monday. Would it be a waste of time to go to the interview? Real similar positions but the one I’ve accepted interests me a bit more, and I can’t help but wonder if I could squeeze higher compensation from the second company. Though I’m not sure they’d turn around and give me a real offer inside of one week. do the interview. not for higher comp, but as a safety net. offers can fall though and you don’t want to have canceled the interview if that happens
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Arcsech posted:do the interview. not for higher comp, but as a safety net. offers can fall though and you don’t want to have canceled the interview if that happens keep interviewing and applying right up until they hand you your building security badge
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Nov 11, 2018 05:05
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FMguru posted:yep yep Yeah, I think I kind of knew that in the back of my mind already, I just wanted an excuse to kick back knowing the hell of job searching is over. I’ll keep it up for the next week and a half, hopefully nothing gets derailed with the offer.
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Nov 11, 2018 05:25
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Schadenboner posted:At least the State of Wisconsin might start hiring again? And the state level brain drain means little competition.
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Tetramin posted:Yeah, I think I kind of knew that in the back of my mind already, I just wanted an excuse to kick back knowing the hell of job searching is over. I’ll keep it up for the next week and a half, hopefully nothing gets derailed with the offer. it might even be an interesting experience - going to an interview with an acceptable offer already in your pocket is like playing with house money
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Nov 11, 2018 05:36
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Tetramin posted:I’ve accepted an offer and have a start date of 11/19, but I have an interview set for this coming Monday. Would it be a waste of time to go to the interview? Real similar positions but the one I’ve accepted interests me a bit more, and I can’t help but wonder if I could squeeze higher compensation from the second company. Though I’m not sure they’d turn around and give me a real offer inside of one week. Always be never not-interviewing. kdrudy posted:And the state level brain drain means little competition. 
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Nov 11, 2018 15:46
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FMguru posted:hes just saying all those things to get elected, he doesnt really believe them. if you were smart and savvy like me, youd understand this! tariffs are loving stupid but also gently caress farmers
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Nov 11, 2018 17:07
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Tetramin posted:I’ve accepted an offer and have a start date of 11/19, but I have an interview set for this coming Monday. Would it be a waste of time to go to the interview? Real similar positions but the one I’ve accepted interests me a bit more, and I can’t help but wonder if I could squeeze higher compensation from the second company. Though I’m not sure they’d turn around and give me a real offer inside of one week. wanting to renegotiate after you have accepted is a really bad look changing your mind and declining after you already accepted is a thing that happens all the time
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Progressive JPEG posted:on the one hand youre wasting their time by interviewing after youve already accepted an offer Even then (as long as they don't know you have an offer in-pocket) a company that gets salty about being sloppy seconds isn't one worth working at. It's a question of information control. For all they know you interviewed with the company you ended up at (the one whose offer you had in-pocket) 20 minutes after your one with them ended, or finished interviewing there 20 minutes before sitting down with them. Source: my career is a complete shambles. People I've interviewed with years ago routinely spit on me while I'm walking down the street with my kid. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 20:45
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FMguru posted:hes just saying all those things to get elected, he doesnt really believe them. if you were smart and savvy like me, youd understand this! I bet its worse for all the Chinese who are hungry for some soy beans right now
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Nov 11, 2018 21:00
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Maximum Leader posted:I bet its worse for all the Chinese who are hungry for some soy beans right now 我在想那些豆
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meatpotato posted:我在想那些豆 Nothing, what's a 我在想那些豆 with you?
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Nov 11, 2018 22:00
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:wanting to renegotiate after you have accepted is a really bad look yeah I’d never push the already accepted offer for more, but maybe leverage the existing offer to get more out of the second company.
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Nov 12, 2018 01:35
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Welp, started firing off some applications to companies out in the valley in case the current place doesn't promote me when I hit my two year mark this spring.
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Nov 12, 2018 15:01
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i was going through The Questions and i made a few personal additions i plan on asking next go-round, feedback welcome! - when was the last time you missed a meal with your family or a personal event because you were stuck at work? Translation: variation on the “do people have good work/life balance at your company” type question. - what are some of the tools (software, hardware) you have been provided with that help you do your job? Translation: oblique way of asking “are you provided with the best tools to do your job?” - do you fix bugs before you write new code? How do you decide what a bug is? Translation: do you take software quality seriously, or do you just try to push as much crap out the door as possible?
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Nov 12, 2018 17:03
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Cold on a Cob posted:i was going through The Questions and i made a few personal additions i plan on asking next go-round, feedback welcome! the last two are pretty good idk if i’d phrase the first one like that
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Nov 12, 2018 17:47
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Rex-Goliath posted:the last two are pretty good idk if i’d phrase the first one like that yeah i need a more oblique and less aggressive way to ask that e: aggressive is the wrong word but i think you get my point
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Nov 12, 2018 18:33
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how about "when was the last time you had to work overtime?"
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yeah that works better, the prior version is too direct and too specific some of what you get from exercise is seeing how they interpret the question i think i mentioned it before but i got pretty good mileage out of "where would you like the project to be in a year?"
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Nov 12, 2018 18:57
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Cold on a Cob posted:how about "when was the last time you had to work overtime?" prompts starting with "tell me about a time when..." tend to be more helpful
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Cold on a Cob posted:how about "when was the last time you had to work overtime?" yeah this is what the ‘how does the team react when it becomes clear they won’t make a deadline?’ is for
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Nov 12, 2018 19:58
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Cold on a Cob posted:- when was the last time you missed a meal with your family or a personal event because you were stuck at work? Cold on a Cob posted:yeah i need a more oblique and less aggressive way to ask that Rex-Goliath posted:yeah this is what the ‘how does the team react when it becomes clear they won’t make a deadline?’ is for
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re: salary negotiation my idiot hell fucker external recruiter has apparently been relaying every single internal thought I've mentioned about the two places i'm receiving offers from to those places themselves. it's wonderful to hear the place you're trying to sell yourself to say to you "so we heard you thought our tech stack was a little old". one place was waiting on the other to make an offer and he relayed that information to the other, causing them to delay + weaken *their* offer. what a loving genius (i am for talking to an external recruiter)! never use an external recruiter!!!
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Nov 13, 2018 05:52
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the never use an external recruiter thing is dumb tbh. good recruiters just aren’t hitting you up out of the blue on linked in. those who do are trash. good external recruiters operate by referrals and having a stable-ish set of companies they place for. it’s super nice letting a competent professional negotiator get your figgies (and you don’t have to be guarded about current salary, what you want, etc)
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Nov 13, 2018 07:08
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Ploft-shell crab posted:re: salary negotiation Visual Basic + excel place?
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Ploft-shell crab posted:re: salary negotiation lol
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Ploft-shell crab posted:re: salary negotiation you should internally think to him that he’s garbage
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Boiled Water posted:Visual Basic + excel place? no, just a ton of NIH
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Ploft-shell crab posted:re: salary negotiation lmfao can his rear end immediately if you don't take either of these jobs
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Ploft-shell crab posted:re: salary negotiation re: the old tech stack the only thing you can do here is keep negging their stack and hope it pays off edit: in case you're wondering i'm a gay idiot without a job so maybe it doesn't work
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getting written off in an interview because I couldn’t remember what SOLID was despite this being a javascript heavy role and they learned coding in the 90’s when OO was hot stuff and never bothered to examine that some of this AbstractFactoryFactory poo poo is isn’t workable 
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Boiled Water posted:re: the old tech stack I’ll neg stacks all day once I have an offer in hand, but he told them this before they even made one!!
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Out of curiosity I took a look at open positions at Twitch. Are Amazon subsidiaries pretty independent or are they all just Amazon with a different logo on the building?
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an interviewer just asked me last night if python was pass by reference or by value and u couldn't exactly remember so i just stammered about how it varies and is weird so i make sure i don't reuse or modify the stuff in the arguments to avoid it all together and it turns out that it was a trick question and i was almost exactly right woot i guess technically it is always by reference (but sometimes immutable references) but i was a lot closer than i felt like i was
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is it a dumb idea to try to push my start date back a week after i've already accepted the offer? worried it might come off as a bad look but dang it'd be really nice to have a little extra breathing room.
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Kind Friend posted:is it a dumb idea to try to push my start date back a week after i've already accepted the offer? worried it might come off as a bad look but dang it'd be really nice to have a little extra breathing room. unless your start date is like today or tomorrow it’s a pretty reasonable request. tell them asap so they have time to reschedule any first day stuff.
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that's what i figured. thanks for the confidence boost.
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Corla Plankun posted:an interviewer just asked me last night if python was pass by reference or by value and u couldn't exactly remember so i just stammered about how it varies and is weird so i make sure i don't reuse or modify the stuff in the arguments to avoid it all together and it turns out that it was a trick question and i was almost exactly right woot Lol this diamond always seems to resurface. Did they ask you if python can run with multiple threads too?
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Kind Friend posted:is it a dumb idea to try to push my start date back a week after i've already accepted the offer? worried it might come off as a bad look but dang it'd be really nice to have a little extra breathing room. i asked for a month before starting (and got it), despite the recruiter knowing i haven’t been working for the last 8 months taking as much time off as possible between jobs is very important, and if you already have the job there’s really no harm in asking
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