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No Wave posted:I'm a little concerned because while froth was op and greatly limited deckbuilding there were a lot of cards that interacted with froth decks' game plan (most effects in the game outside of lock) and it wasnt a deck that made last say all that important unless it ran a cheese yrden. I dont think froth was hit that hard. It lost Zoltan, which is huge, but the namesake card is still able to be run at two copies. And the ability for Gremist to potentially fire it off 4 times in a match series still lives on. Deck is still good.
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# ? Nov 7, 2018 21:37 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:42 |
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Been running into a bunch of Eist (!) decks running self-harming warriors to rez then play bekker's dark mirror. With the 12-drop lady, you get a "surprise" 18-point unit.
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# ? Nov 8, 2018 15:47 |
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No Wave posted:You stumbled on one of the better decks... Big Monsters is one of the more successful decks at higher ranks, even with Lemmens running around everywhere. hell yeah, I've been tweaking this one and it's badass. I'm sick to death of playing the goddamn witcher trio in every deck so I modified my big dumb monster ghoul deck to not run 'em and I kinda dig it a bunch. Without having to worry about the dumb witcher trio Naglfar gets even better. it has good synergy with Weavess: Incantation, too. Here's my list: (15) Old Speartip (11) Weavess Incantation (10) Naglfar (10) Golyat (10) Sleepy Speartip (9) Ozzrel (8) Count Caldwell (8) 2x Ghoul (7) Werecat (7) 2x Griffin (5) Alpha Werewolf - MVP (5) 2x Drowner (4) 2x Nekker Warrior (4) 2x Werewolf (4) 2x Ancient Foglet (4) 2x Nekker (4) 2x Archespore Basically, you play little weak thrive junk early, big fat guys later. With very little thinning you are pretty draw-dependent but 3-4 mulligans is helpful. Some non-obvious tricks: Griffin is a great ghoul/ozzrel graveyard consume target in addition to the Speartips, Caldwell, and Golyat. Griffin is also useful in eating a damaged big dude to get 'em in the graveyard to get eaten by ghouls. Ancient Foglet synergy is obvious. The deck is full of proactive plays, which feels great. Werewolf, Nekker Warrior, Nekker, Ancient Foglet, Alpha Werewolf or even the big fat guys are all useful against an empty board little 1-drop Nekkers aren't the worst option to target with your leader ability. When played, the boosted nekker will trigger the thrive of the spawned little guy making it a 10-point play instead of a 9-point play! woooooo. Werewolf and Alpha Werewolf are obviously way better, but turning a small thrive dude into a big thrive dude is okay if you have big fat dudes to play. Unless it's the final gamewinning play, don't boost your fat guys; it's dumb and risky. Replacement options: Caldwell is 10-power for 8 recruitment. Be smart and don't play him if there is any real chance of him getting stolen over to your opponent's side. Play at the end of rounds or feed him to the weavess. If you don't like the risk, you could replace him with an Ice Giant or Primordial D'ao, I guess. In older versions of this deck I ran a bunch more big fat dudes like Primordial D'ao and Ice giant, but it felt like too many. if you don't like the griffins, Ice giants are an easy replacement, but I think Primordial D'ao recruitment is overcosted and ice giants are just boring. if you really want to fit in the witcher trio, you could replace some of the really big guys for ice giants and take out Werecat.
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# ? Nov 8, 2018 18:10 |
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I like your list. What most people do instead of werecat is run forktails, which are actually insanely op in the list and a large reason it's tier 1. However I encourage you to run your own, it's more fun that way.
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# ? Nov 8, 2018 18:13 |
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No Wave posted:I like your list. What most people do instead of werecat is run forktails, which are actually insanely op in the list and a large reason it's tier 1. I've been making a concerted effort not to netdeck this time and it's fun. I could really see how forktails could be good, but playing slightly unexpected stuff has its own benefit. My other constructed jam is a Demavend charge-a-palooza deck (Lyrian Arbalest and piles of charge/order cards; Anna Strenger, Tridam infantry, Vysogota, Priscilla, Dandelion, etc) but it has a hard time against folks that know the basic combos and are running appropriate removal. I had fun with an arena deck that I drafted with 2 pheonix and Derran. Lucked into having Eist as my leader along with a few appropriate Warrior targets. Eist isn't the worst arena leader if you can make him work. I like his voice lines quite a bit, too.
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# ? Nov 8, 2018 19:09 |
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I tried to do a monster rowstack deck after the nerfs, and man, it was weak. Forget about using it anymore. I also tried to do a Deathwish deck, but it felt very inconsistent, so in the end I came back to a 'big boy' monster deck, a variation similar to the previously posted. Maybe I will try to do a Draug deck.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 11:58 |
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I dunno if it already got mentioned, but the steam version went live yesterday.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 13:46 |
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And it's like 1/3rd the price of the GOG version in my region. Goddamnit.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 18:29 |
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So is thronebreaker any good if you liked gwent and kinda think it looks fun?
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 20:59 |
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Affi posted:So is thronebreaker any good if you liked gwent and kinda think it looks fun? It's alright. Puzzles are mostly entertaining and the story is generally good with a small amount of reactivity. However the difficulty is non-existent and the game is actually weakest when it's time to do three rounds of regular Gwent, to the point I would audibly groan when the words "Standard Battle" popped up on screen. The rounds take forever and you know you'll just stomp the AI so it starts to feel pointless. Conclusion: I'd wait for a patch to fix the most glaring bugs, and probably a sale because you won't get more than maybe 30 hours out of it and it lacks significant replay value.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 21:19 |
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Production value is insane though, everything but the gameplay is very well made.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 21:21 |
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Buller posted:Production value is insane though, everything but the gameplay is very well made. Voice acting, animations, card animations and effects, music, all gold. Actually playing Gwent? Ehhhhhhhh no thanks.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 21:24 |
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Affi posted:So is thronebreaker any good if you liked gwent and kinda think it looks fun? Wait until December, they supposedly will release an update for it that will fix the poor difficulty.
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# ? Nov 10, 2018 21:39 |
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Minrad posted:Rayla is so great. She does horrible things... but she's never wrong about the Scoia'tael. Any time you fail to heed her advice and don't do something horrible, the elves do something just as horrible to you instead. Rayla did nothing wrong
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 12:36 |
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They're releasing a december patch that's supposed to make TB harder. I don't really believe it will do anything. 30 dollars isn't a low price for what you get, if that's a high number for you and you haven't bought hollow knight or enter the gungeon buy those instead. But the game is fun for a single playthrough even if the end drags a little and the writing/characters are very good. I can't recommend multiplayer gwent at all right now though unfortunately.
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:00 |
Opinions are definitely mixed on multiplayer gwent, I know I quite like it and would recommend it, so I'd say it would be worth a try to anyone who was curious. Unrelated, today was the first day of homecoming in which I actually saw someone clear a weather I'd played
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 15:23 |
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I would say most changes in Gwent are positive, but a few of them (max hand size, max row size) are so restricting that makes most matches be close games, but in an artificial way. There is less 'game space' for big defeats and big victories.
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 15:44 |
It is a bit weird if you get two card advantage in round one but they just pass to get it back to even. I like the extra draws and the whole game not revolving around card advantage in round one, but it has its price. Better this than 100% of players with spies, revolving around who gets 2nd and who draws their spy.
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 15:46 |
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In general I'll keep my negative stuff about homecoming off this forum, but the coinflip isn't remotely fixed. It's worse than it was at the end of OB because orders makes reactive cards like right now epidemic, scorch, wild boar, schirru, and wolfsbane absurd. The changes made it slightly harder to lose on even, but extremely hard to take round 1 on blue and you don't have the option to drypass.
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# ? Nov 11, 2018 17:45 |
I didn't feel it was worse, the first player had an alright shot at taking the lead with tactical advantage on some kind of orders or value over time card, though that depends on whether they have that kind of deck or the other guy has big removal or not. Maybe it gets worse, I'm not particularly expert or high rank
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# ? Nov 12, 2018 04:18 |
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Are there any good places to netdeck for this dead game?
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# ? Nov 12, 2018 08:20 |
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Sorry, but can someone explain me how the collection progress indicator works? I'm missing 21 cards... or at least, it says that. But in reality I'm only missing 5 standard cards (because I have the premium version of them, I didn't craft them), so it can't refer to the 'standard', non-animated set. Nor it can refer to the Premium set, as for that I'm missing not 21 cards, but more than 60. edit: and the answer, the max number is wrong.There are less cards in the game. Which, by the way, it's something that it's starting to bother me, game needs a pair of expansions already. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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Qmass posted:Are there any good places to netdeck for this dead game? https://teamrankstar.com/gwent-meta-update-nov-13-2018/ https://www.myesports.net/gwent/ https://gwenty.gg/ https://gwentdb.net/
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# ? Nov 13, 2018 18:14 |
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awesome, thanks turin. So now that card advantage is so wonky, what is ciri used for ? Qmass fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Nov 14, 2018 |
# ? Nov 14, 2018 02:47 |
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Qmass posted:awesome, thanks turin. Same function? You just have to play it when you played enough cards as to not exceed the max number next round.
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# ? Nov 14, 2018 11:32 |
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I had never seen someone run caranthir, speartip bekkers before... 25 points :O Well now I know and now my big woodland has forktails...
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# ? Nov 14, 2018 16:40 |
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Buller posted:Production value is insane though, everything but the gameplay is very well made. I was shocked when the game actually went on after the first act. I've been burned so hard before that I just assumed pre-emptively that this is where the game ends and they say 'please come back for the sequel'. It just goes on and on and it's all good, it's a genuine single-player title and that made me so happy. I'll be so sad if there are not more of these titles, single-player card-games is the most under-appreciated of genres and short of Slay the Spire there's been almost nothing for years. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Nov 14, 2018 |
# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:08 |
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I assume you've played HS dungeon run. I loooooved HS dungeon run.
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# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:22 |
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I'm glad that there is hardly any witchering too. It'd be nice to see them do more with the more mundane people in the setting.
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# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:23 |
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No Wave posted:I assume you've played HS dungeon run. I loooooved HS dungeon run. The few HS dungeons runs that exist are good. Up Circle posted:I'm glad that there is hardly any witchering too. It'd be nice to see them do more with the more mundane people in the setting. Something about Meve & CO just overwhelming all the monsters you have to work around in Witcher was very satisfying to me.
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# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:27 |
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I dug the thing (very early in the game) where when you encounter monsters your advisors are like "should we call a Witcher?" And you are like "no time, just use heavy artillery." I guess monsters are much less scary if you have a literal army with you to take 'em out.
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# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:26 |
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No Wave posted:I like your list. What most people do instead of werecat is run forktails, which are actually insanely op in the list and a large reason it's tier 1. Yeah, after playing around with a consume list for a while I was convinced at the power of forktails, so I switched out a werecat and a griffin for a pair of them. Running into loads of anti-fat critter/anti-graveyard tech though. Lots of matchups come down to feeling out when it's safe to play little nekkers/thrive dudes early or when you gotta mull them away. There seem to be a bazillion Crach decks out there at the moment. Lots of variety in the details of what they are doing. Halfway tempted to start running an artifact hate dude to snag the occasional spear or ethne schirru potion. I hate to dilute the basic game plan though. Top 150-120ish in North America, woo. I wonder if I'll manage to push to pro level again. Level 9 or so at the moment but I can't help but try janky new ideas in ranked.
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# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:39 |
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Does anyone have the copypaste about the dad who was financially ruined by his autistic son buying Gwent kegs?
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# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:07 |
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Also I can't believe Xavier Lemmens evaded the nerf hammer this go around. I put him in every ranked deck.
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# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:11 |
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The Lemondrop Dandy posted:Yeah, after playing around with a consume list for a while I was convinced at the power of forktails, so I switched out a werecat and a griffin for a pair of them. Running into loads of anti-fat critter/anti-graveyard tech though. Lots of matchups come down to feeling out when it's safe to play little nekkers/thrive dudes early or when you gotta mull them away. well, did switch out some stuff for artifact hate and it was the right idea. updated list: Ghoulish (15) Old Speartip (11) Weavess Incantation (10) Naglfar (10) Golyat (9) Ozzrel (8) Count Caldwell (8) Frenzied D'ao (8) 2x Ghoul (7) 1x Griffin (6) Nithral (6) 2x Cyclops - new MVP (5) Alpha Werewolf (5) 2x Forktail (5) 2x Drowner (4) 2x Nekker Warrior (4) 2x Ancient Foglet (4) 2x Nekker (4) 1x Archespore Cyclops is crucial in taking out early engines and in throwing count Caldwell into someone's face before he switches sides. The switch-sides ability triggers at the end of YOUR turn, so he is okay to play on a board where you have the highest unit as long as you can afford to throw him away if they get highest unit during their turn. Frenzied D'ao is a decent ghoul target and the now-two artifact killers are useful vs. elfish decks and Crach decks. Weavess: Incantation is your most useful tools in getting ghoul targets into the graveyard, but Griffins and Cyclops works in a pinch, too. Naglfar is amazing. if you have both Naglfar and Weavess: Incantation in your opening hand, you are probably going to win the match. Nithral is the first card to go if the meta shifts away from decks running artifacts at all.
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# ? Nov 16, 2018 20:39 |
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I can't bring myself to play this more than once a week. It is extremely unfun.
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# ? Nov 18, 2018 23:48 |
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Yup, pretty much. RIP
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# ? Nov 19, 2018 00:39 |
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I'm having fun playing Thronebreaker from time to time but yeah I haven't touched main Gwent ever since release day
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# ? Nov 19, 2018 01:04 |
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Up Circle posted:I can't bring myself to play this more than once a week. It is extremely unfun. HC/Thronebreaker were clearly rushed to make it onto their financial report for 2018 but this is a real disaster and they just don't have anyone over there who has the ability to turn it around. It's really over.
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# ? Nov 19, 2018 02:21 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:42 |
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I dunno, I like it fine?
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# ? Nov 19, 2018 02:25 |