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The gang misses the boat had Mac with the mesh shirt in which he pretends to be banging Dusty. Would probably add that to your list as well
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I don't know if we have any gay men reading the thread, but does it at all feel odd to have a straight man (Rob McElhenny) creating this whole interpretive dance expressing "his" struggle as a gay man trying to find acceptance? It seems like it's been pretty well-received everywhere, and it's certainly a positive portrayal, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone bring this up. If he's never lived that experience, does it make it seem "fake" or shallow at all to people who have lived it in real life?
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Not a gay man, since I'm transitioning now and also like women, but I lived as a queer dude for a long time, so I guess I kinda' might count? I was just happy to have a gay man on television who wasn't a stereotype. Like, his assholishness isn't because he's gay and his gayness isn't central to his character so much as being raised Catholic is. Mac's really complex, under the jokes.
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Phenotype posted:I don't know if we have any gay men reading the thread, but does it at all feel odd to have a straight man (Rob McElhenny) creating this whole interpretive dance expressing "his" struggle as a gay man trying to find acceptance? It seems like it's been pretty well-received everywhere, and it's certainly a positive portrayal, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone bring this up. If he's never lived that experience, does it make it seem "fake" or shallow at all to people who have lived it in real life? No, it's just good.
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Phenotype posted:I don't know if we have any gay men reading the thread, but does it at all feel odd to have a straight man (Rob McElhenny) creating this whole interpretive dance expressing "his" struggle as a gay man trying to find acceptance? It seems like it's been pretty well-received everywhere, and it's certainly a positive portrayal, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone bring this up. If he's never lived that experience, does it make it seem "fake" or shallow at all to people who have lived it in real life? I mean Rob grew up with two moms and has always been very sincere of his support for the community. It's acting, he's allowed to portray something he's not in real life if he's respectful and honest with it, and dude is both
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Everyone's a little bi so maybe he's just channeling that I mean a LOT and I mean a LOT of dudes say they're "straight" but have gay sexual fantasies. I've told lots of people I'm straight just to avoid them being weird because homophobia is insanely common even among totally woke people precision fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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I made the mistake of watching "The Gang Does a Clip Show" on shrooms and it messed up the rest of the season for me, I think. btw the dance from the last episode was really beautiful.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:47
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I wanna watch that dance on shrooms or acid
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Phenotype posted:I don't know if we have any gay men reading the thread, but does it at all feel odd to have a straight man (Rob McElhenny) creating this whole interpretive dance expressing "his" struggle as a gay man trying to find acceptance? It seems like it's been pretty well-received everywhere, and it's certainly a positive portrayal, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone bring this up. If he's never lived that experience, does it make it seem "fake" or shallow at all to people who have lived it in real life? They meta-joke about this in the episode itself.
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i thought mac's confession to his dad was going to finally prompt the "i love you" he never got and it was going to be a happy ending which is why people had been buzzing about the finale so much. i laughed my god drat dick off at Frank's gradual devolvement into a disgusting blood-swollen creature as the episode progressed, top-notch Sunny in that regard, and then BOOM that ending. way better and more satisfying than anything i could have anticipated. early in the dance when Mac's shirt comes off, i was still unsure if we were in joke territory or not and kinda snickered thinking they were still rolling with the "hey i got jacked, you guys" thing, but then my brain immediately switched to realizing that this dance was the reason he got so jacked in the first place and they were masking it since the first episode of the season. what a cool show
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This was a cool episode and the goober a few pages back fussing about it being too serious as an unironic complaint only made it better.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, that's all I meant to say. He definitely wasn't gay at the start but it was obviously a joke to undermine his hyper masculine self identity with insecurities and blind spots and it just evolved. Thanks for the reply, that's totally fair and I agree with you on it, actually.
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Easychair Bootson posted:What's the proper chronological order of this season's episodes? Other than the two superbowl episodes everything is chronological.
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Oh, what could have been  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_44fh_xrpE
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Other than the two superbowl episodes everything is chronological. I don't think this is the case. I can't find it right now but I think Kaitlin Olson was interviewed around the premier of the season saying she wasn't sure what order the episodes were going to come out. The #metoo episode was right around the Kavenaugh hearing, if I'm remembering correctly. Otherwise, I feel like Dennis' Range Rover episode should have been episode #2. He talks about the gang clearly wanting to know what he's been doing while he's been away but they don't care. It seems like he would have addressed that much sooner. On top of that, if the episode's order was chronological I don't understand why he didn't notice his Range Rover was blown up/missing earlier. Especially so since the vehicle represented the mojo he'd lost without it and I don't know how he was full Dennis in other episodes otherwise.
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I hope Dennis talks about being up north next season and it's just a big rip on Fargo And it includes a Fargo Mac and Fargo Charlie and such
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Nov 14, 2018 16:52
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I don't like AP Bio and I'm mad it's stealing Dennis from IASIP >:[
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Powershift posted:Oh, what could have been Yes
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Doltos posted:I don't like AP Bio and I'm mad it's stealing Dennis from IASIP >:[
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Whalley posted:I do like AP Bio quite a lot and I'm mad that it lived while The Mick died The Mick was goooood
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The Sean posted:I don't think this is the case. I can't find it right now but I think Kaitlin Olson was interviewed around the premier of the season saying she wasn't sure what order the episodes were going to come out. The #metoo episode was right around the Kavenaugh hearing, if I'm remembering correctly. Otherwise, I feel like Dennis' Range Rover episode should have been episode #2. He talks about the gang clearly wanting to know what he's been doing while he's been away but they don't care. It seems like he would have addressed that much sooner. On top of that, if the episode's order was chronological I don't understand why he didn't notice his Range Rover was blown up/missing earlier. Especially so since the vehicle represented the mojo he'd lost without it and I don't know how he was full Dennis in other episodes otherwise. I mean, he probably should have noticed it was blown up outside the bar. But it seems like he probably knew it was missing before he decided to ask everyone what they did with his Range Rover. Like, maybe he got back and didn't think anything of it until he realized he wasn't the Golden God you Idiots until not having it for a few days.
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pr0p posted:The Mick was goooood
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I mean clone high exists so I disagree
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Whalley posted:I do like AP Bio quite a lot and I'm mad that it lived while The Mick died 
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I sometimes stop and think about the perfect build/payoff to God running into the Church, pointing at Ben and telling him to stay in school. God, The Mick was amazing.
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Jerusalem posted:God, The Mick was amazing. Too perfect for our world.
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Late to the party. Overall, I thought Season 13 was weak and that the show needs to come to an end before the drop in quality really becomes a problem. Thirteen seasons is a good run, no shame in anything, but time to wrap it up. However That finale was incredible and a testament to the care that the crew puts into the show. Years from now, when people do a retrospective on IASIP, this episode is going to be featured prominently. It was a shockingly powerful attempt at character development and analysis without any of the humor the show is known for. I actually found NOTHING about the episode funny, not Frank's busted face, not the BDSM scene, nothing- but not in a critical way. To me, without knowing anything about the episode, I could tell from the very beginning that this was going to be different, and that the attempts at humor felt like nothing more than misdirection. I'm not saying you can't find it funny, but to me it never felt like it wanted me to laugh. For the first time ever I actually think I want to see the characters grow/change before the show ends. Not necessarily for the better, or for the worse, but I think it would be nice to do the opposite of Seinfeld. After 13 years of being compared to Seinfeld, it could be the ultimate subversion to see the characters grow in a meaningful way as they sail off into the sunset. Also- can someone fill me in on when the area surrounding the pub went through all the development/new construction??? It kinda took me out of the show every time they did scenes outside the bar because of all the new construction. When did that first pop up? It takes me out of the setting quite a bit because a lovely failing pub like their's doesn't fit in what looks to be a new/expensive area.
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SpitztheGreat posted:Also- can someone fill me in on when the area surrounding the pub went through all the development/new construction??? It kinda took me out of the show every time they did scenes outside the bar because of all the new construction. When did that first pop up? It takes me out of the setting quite a bit because a lovely failing pub like their's doesn't fit in what looks to be a new/expensive area. They've definitely set up that the other businesses in the area have succeeded while Paddy's has stagnated and gone mostly unnoticed. Molly's in "The Gang Reignites the Rivalry" is a good example of this. So, IDK, it's sort of fitting in a way. And I enjoyed the return to the orgy buffet joke. I loved that call-back, plus the bloody nose rags in the chicken ughh
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I don't think the gentrification was decided by the show, it's just happening in real life like it is in most places like where Paddy's is located. Almost all the dive bars in lovely areas I knew from 13 years ago are gone or now surrounded by $400k 1br condos. That's why they gotta try to host "liberal speech nights" and attract the gays.
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Baronjutter posted:I don't think the gentrification was decided by the show, it's just happening in real life like it is in most places like where Paddy's is located. Almost all the dive bars in lovely areas I knew from 13 years ago are gone or now surrounded by $400k 1br condos. That's why they gotta try to host "liberal speech nights" and attract the gays. I didn't mean to imply that the show had anything to do with it. I just don't remember the area around the bar looking any different in season 11 or 12, so to suddenly see all kinds of new construction around the bar was jarring. I'm not expecting a great deal of realism from the show, that's not it's thing obviously, but it did leave me scratching my head at times. Case in point, when they reveal that they destroyed Dennis' car, it was literally feet away from look like mixed use/ commercial space. Personally, I just liked it more when the setting was in some slummy part of town where people could be taken hostage, buildings burned, cars wrecked, and no one would notice. Seems like they could work the gentrification/improvement of the neighborhood into the story more, maybe compare/contrast in with the characters growth.
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SpitztheGreat posted:I didn't mean to imply that the show had anything to do with it. I just don't remember the area around the bar looking any different in season 11 or 12, so to suddenly see all kinds of new construction around the bar was jarring. I'm not expecting a great deal of realism from the show, that's not it's thing obviously, but it did leave me scratching my head at times. Case in point, when they reveal that they destroyed Dennis' car, it was literally feet away from look like mixed use/ commercial space. Personally, I just liked it more when the setting was in some slummy part of town where people could be taken hostage, buildings burned, cars wrecked, and no one would notice. Seems like they could work the gentrification/improvement of the neighborhood into the story more, maybe compare/contrast in with the characters growth. If they want to go really bold they could work in the gentrification next season: "Paddy's is Priced Out". And they have to move the bar to a shittier location.
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I had thought they (Frank) owned the bar, and that the physical aspect was included.
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deong posted:I had thought they (Frank) owned the bar, and that the physical aspect was included. They haven't really touched on it in a long time. Maybe Frank could have lost the deed in a poker game or something.
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1glitch0 posted:They haven't really touched on it in a long time. Maybe Frank could have lost the deed in a poker game or something. What about those mahjong(?) guys he used to hang around with
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I just imagine Frank stumbling in, yelling about how he has a sure thing, the money-making scheme of a lifetime, where's the deed to the bar? Oh I use it to cram up the leak in the glass sink, Charlie says. Why do you need it anyways? Asks Mac. I got these gambling-addict Vietnamese on the hook for everything they got, I just need something serious to up the ante. And this is a sure thing? Inquires Dennis. Oh yeah, sure thing, sure thing, says Frank. These guys are morons, they're about to lose their shirts haha "The Gang Gambles Away the Bar" ...did this happen? it feels weirdly familiar
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Brawnfire posted:"The Gang Gambles Away the Bar" It's not the same thing, but in one episode a jewish man comes in and states that his property extends into the bar and there's a whole battle about that. The gang jumps ship and almost all end up working at the applebees-ish place the waitress works at. I think they end up burning his building down or something. I think I'm remembering that accurately. Speaking of waitress, I'm glad they've kept her name anonymous still. I hope that they continue through the whole series and don't do some reveal like Cosmo Kramer.
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