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I feel like that comic exists solely because someone thought "True Bereavers" was funny and then they couldn't think of any actual content to go with it.
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Here's some background on Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVtbkQMwJS4    Not everybody goes to hell.  And Kelly Kares about Komics. 
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IUG posted:I believe it's The Onion's cartoonist. Yes, it's 100% satire which is apparently an art form lost on people these days.
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I dunno, I fancy myself quite the Archie connoisseur.
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Proteus Jones posted:Yes, it's 100% satire which is apparently an art form lost on people these days. You can’t satirize editorial cartoons. No matter how insane, how horrible your satire is, someone has published something much worse in earnest.
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Nov 14, 2018 17:42
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Phylodox posted:You can’t satirize editorial cartoons. No matter how insane, how horrible your satire is, someone has published something much worse in earnest. OK, you got me there. For a while I thought Garrison was satire, and then I found out he wasn't. It's like Swift wrote A Modest Proposal and then it turned out true.
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Phylodox posted:You can’t satirize editorial cartoons. No matter how insane, how horrible your satire is, someone has published something much worse in earnest. Yea, I posted this once and there's no way Kelly would ever get close to this insanity Samuringa posted:the most political cartoon that ever political cartoon-ed
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The entire point of the character of Kelly (drawn by actual political cartoonist Ward Sutton) is that he's a character whose personal beliefs, ranging from ugly (woman-hating, alcoholic, neglectful and emotionally abusive father, etc) to purely idiosyncratic (the obsession with the death of VHS and porn magazines, the seemingly random assignment of dead celebrities to heaven or hell) are expressed in his cartoons, overwhelming any actual insight or cleverness. It might be a bit Poe's Law satire when you have real world stuff like Bruce Tinsley making his lovely cartoon duck spend a week complaining about the corruption of the local judge that sentenced the cartoonist for a DUI, but it is very obviously satire.
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Samuringa posted:Yea, I posted this once and there's no way Kelly would ever get close to this insanity Goddammit, Garrison. I know what he's trying to say, but it seriously looks like "the president is unprepared for what's coming down on him in the election."
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Nov 14, 2018 18:12
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Pieces of Peace posted:It might be a bit Poe's Law satire when you have real world stuff like Bruce Tinsley making his lovely cartoon duck spend a week complaining about the corruption of the local judge that sentenced the cartoonist for a DUI, but it is very obviously satire. Kelly did a cartoon similar to this and I wonder if he was aping on Tinsley for it.
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Nov 14, 2018 18:18
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That loving Antifa with a kryptonite bike lock gets me every time. Why a U-lock? I guess Garrison hates 'urban cyclists' and lumps them in?
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Pacra posted:That loving Antifa with a kryptonite bike lock gets me every time. Why a U-lock? I guess Garrison hates 'urban cyclists' and lumps them in? Nah, it's a specific guy who was antifa and got arrested for assaulting nazis with a bike lock. A hero highlighting the corrupt nature of society when harming a nazi is punished not lauded, but a specific actual guy.
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Pacra posted:That loving Antifa with a kryptonite bike lock gets me every time. Why a U-lock? I guess Garrison hates 'urban cyclists' and lumps them in? Isn't that what that professor at Berkley was using as a weapon? Presumably makes him the most famous of the ANTIFA people to make a caricature of.
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Nov 14, 2018 18:27
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Tag urself. I'm the Bernie Sanders hermit crab.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:12
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I'm the baffling inclusion of Barack Obama
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Keeshhound posted:Goddammit, Garrison. I know what he's trying to say, but it seriously looks like "the president is unprepared for what's coming down on him in the election." It doesn't help that even pro-Trump cartoonists draw his hair like a mocking caricature, or that the cartoonist seems to be working under the assumption that closing beaches somehow stops waves.
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bony tony posted:I'm the baffling inclusion of Barack Obama Obama will be a GOP boogeyman for the rest of eternity.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Obama will be a GOP boogeyman for the rest of eternity. Like a scary story they tell around Republican campfires. quote:And THEN they elected a NEGRO
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Keromaru5 posted:Tag urself. I'm the Bernie Sanders hermit crab. Google fishing and the statue of liberty hung by the neck from Facebook are ok visual gags, aided significantly by not having been labeled. Edit: I just noticed that the statue of liberty is labeled "free speech," which leads me to believe that Google fishing is probably coincidental. Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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bony tony posted:I'm the baffling inclusion of Barack Obama Keromaru5 posted:Tag urself. I'm the Bernie Sanders hermit crab. That steaming turd right in front of the CENSOR SHIP, which is also a solid gag in itself.
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I'm Hillary's lost shoe.
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Kelly's Statue of Liberty was inspired by the Watchman editorial cartoons, right? Probably why he favours DC over Marvel.
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darthbob88 posted:And Hillary Clinton, you know, the lady Trump beat and who has therefore mostly retired from public life. She's gonna run again and Trump will automatically win.
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Keromaru5 posted:Tag urself. I'm the Bernie Sanders hermit crab. I'm the CNN shark shaking its fist.
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I'm the bizarre and slightly terrifying caricature of surfing Michael Cohen that I KNOW is supposed to be a rat but looks more like a cutesy mouse.
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i'm the personified illuminati pyramid in a suit driving the censor ship
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lmao that slott did it so much worse than the hickman version.
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"I get that you're scared, pal.... but could you lend me some money?  "
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Pieces of Peace posted:The entire point of the character of Kelly (drawn by actual political cartoonist Ward Sutton) is that he's a character whose personal beliefs, ranging from ugly (woman-hating, alcoholic, neglectful and emotionally abusive father, etc) to purely idiosyncratic (the obsession with the death of VHS and porn magazines, the seemingly random assignment of dead celebrities to heaven or hell) are expressed in his cartoons, overwhelming any actual insight or cleverness. The best Kelly cartoon - maybe not the funniest but the one that most underlines the whole joke - is the one where, despite his ultra-right-wing political beliefs, he portrays anti-abortion protesters as spiky-toothed guilt-tripping busybodies because he hates his children, thinks having them ruined his life and robbed him of his best years and he now wishes his wife had aborted them. His defining characteristic isn't that he's this far-right ideological fanatic like Garrison or other actual cartoonists; it's that he's a selfish, bitter old man.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The best Kelly cartoon - maybe not the funniest but the one that most underlines the whole joke - is the one where, despite his ultra-right-wing political beliefs, he portrays anti-abortion protesters as spiky-toothed guilt-tripping busybodies because he hates his children, thinks having them ruined his life and robbed him of his best years and he now wishes his wife had aborted them. You repeat yourself
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Nov 15, 2018 13:54
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The way the Stan Kelly is always portrayed as a huge DC fan is odd to me; I think it's a joke about the stereotype around the DC movies having right-wing Batman-obsessed fans, which is a stereotype I've come across even though I've no idea where it came from or how it came about.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The way the Stan Kelly is always portrayed as a huge DC fan is odd to me; I think it's a joke about the stereotype around the DC movies having right-wing Batman-obsessed fans, which is a stereotype I've come across even though I've no idea where it came from or how it came about. Well, most recently it was from The Dark Knight, which is all about Hard Men Making Hard Decisions. For example, the scene where Batman snaps and beats the poo poo out of Joker in the police interrogation room to find Harvey Dent, which might have originally been written to show how close to the edge Batman is, but can also be read as "torturing prisoners is cool and works to get reliable information."
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Wheat Loaf posted:The way the Stan Kelly is always portrayed as a huge DC fan is odd to me; I think it's a joke about the stereotype around the DC movies having right-wing Batman-obsessed fans, which is a stereotype I've come across even though I've no idea where it came from or how it came about. If I had to guess, it started with people not realizing that Rorcharch isn't someone you're suppose to admire and kinda branching out from there. e: please tell me that tag team's name is the Skrull Kill Crew.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The way the Stan Kelly is always portrayed as a huge DC fan is odd to me; I think it's a joke about the stereotype around the DC movies having right-wing Batman-obsessed fans, which is a stereotype I've come across even though I've no idea where it came from or how it came about. My assumption was that he preferred DC comics because he's an older guy. He likes the simpler, "hero is the good guy" stories, instead of having characters with social lives and personal problems and moral conflicts and so forth. 
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Selachian posted:Well, most recently it was from The Dark Knight, which is all about Hard Men Making Hard Decisions. For example, the scene where Batman snaps and beats the poo poo out of Joker in the police interrogation room to find Harvey Dent, which might have originally been written to show how close to the edge Batman is, but can also be read as "torturing prisoners is cool and works to get reliable information." I know that you're right about how some people misinterpreted that scene, but I do feel compelled to point out (in case anyone comes across it in the wild, I guess) that the whole point of that scene is that A. The Joker wants him to lose his cool and start pummeling him, even going so far as to start laughing at him and saying "You have nothing to threaten me with. Nothing to do with all your strength!" and B. gives them bad information anyway, switching the locations because he thinks it's funny.
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Keeshhound posted:I know that you're right about how some people misinterpreted that scene, but I do feel compelled to point out (in case anyone comes across it in the wild, I guess) that the whole point of that scene is that A. The Joker wants him to lose his cool and start pummeling him because both of them get off on it.
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