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Fhqwhgads: Jul 18, 2003; I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

How do you play your Gnoll Skalds in the beginning to survive? Forego the spells for heavier armor for more survivability? Cast everything all the time? I have no idea how to really play hybrids, either going all in one melee or magic usually.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 01:04

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 04:44

RPATDO_LAMD: Mar 22, 2013; 🐘🪠🍆

the optimal gnoll earlygame strat is "hold down tab lmao you have like 8 levels in your weapon skill"

# ? Nov 14, 2018 01:20

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

Aumanor posted:

Deep Elf, purest of blaster casters. Pray for an early Vehu altar.

E: Speaking of blaster casters, can I petition for Gooncrawl to move Buddysphere back to lvl 4? That change is what made me drop conjurers.

E2: Speaking of buddysphere and having checked the wiki, can I petition for Gooncrawl to put Buddysphere back into the conjurations starting book?

Blaster casters are boring to me, I just wanna collect a shitload of utility spells to facilitate me safely hitting things with a polearm. I think I'm gonna go with either ogre with a bunch of fighting or try to get some light armor casting going on with a human.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 02:04

Heithinn Grasida: Mar 28, 2005; ...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

tweet my meat posted:

Blaster casters are boring to me, I just wanna collect a shitload of utility spells to facilitate me safely hitting things with a polearm. I think I'm gonna go with either ogre with a bunch of fighting or try to get some light armor casting going on with a human.

Pole arm wizards are good, so are stabby wizards, and so are archer wizards. DEWz with a bow is really cool. If you go DEWz, take advantage of your hexes aptitude and go for slow. It�s dubious on most wizards, but great for DE. People are mentioning how dangerous rPois reptiles and amphibians are for wizards, but slow makes them easy to handle.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 02:16

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

Now a polearm ogre is great and all, but how good is the giant spiked club with the new lovely mace apts?

# ? Nov 14, 2018 02:36

Heithinn Grasida: Mar 28, 2005; ...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

tweet my meat posted:

Now a polearm ogre is great and all, but how good is the giant spiked club with the new lovely mace apts?

It�s still really good, but a regular giant club might be better, depending on how much you want to invest in magic and throwing and whether you are following oka (heroism) or ash(skill boost). Giant clubs are super efficient in damage to xp investment, while GSCs are typically more suited for pure bruisers.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 05:15

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tweet my meat posted:

Now a polearm ogre is great and all, but how good is the giant spiked club with the new lovely mace apts?

ogre apt got bumped back up in gooncrawl

honestly i was hoping it would be only partway, theres really no loving competition weapon choice wise

# ? Nov 14, 2018 08:55

Bogart: Apr 12, 2010; by VideoGames

When you're the only race who can hit with the giant club, you should be good at it. :colbert:

# ? Nov 14, 2018 09:38

Teal: Feb 25, 2013; by Nyc_Tattoo

Any weapon that's super at killing things shouldn't be balanced by "but the only way you can use it just makes it kinda bad at killing things".

SGC on underskilled characters should instead have a chance of partial self damage.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 09:47

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i just want to swing something else around as a big fat lad sometimes yknow? but its hard when theres a +2 apt and theres generally some kinda mace worth picking up pretty quick and

# ? Nov 14, 2018 14:19

FulsomFrank: Sep 11, 2005; Hard on for love

I am Otis posted:

for un mephable reptiles I spam cast summon imp till I get a few ice imps then run around and drop a conjure flame if I still have mana. That usually kills them or lets you get away

But by then hopefully you have something else to kill them with like sticky flame or an ice spell or a branded weapon

Yeah you can get away with a lot through clever flame conjures, especially in the dungeon with tight hallways but once you get to the lair or other places with wide open areas you really have to plan your defensive/offensive flames to either block monsters off properly or funnel them into the death cloud. I generally won't risk lair if I haven't gotten something from Veh or found a book with some higher level kill spell.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 15:16

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Tollymain posted:

i just want to swing something else around as a big fat lad sometimes yknow? but its hard when theres a +2 apt and theres generally some kinda mace worth picking up pretty quick and

Inb4 demigod discussion again.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 16:02

Heithinn Grasida: Mar 28, 2005; ...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

Tollymain posted:

i just want to swing something else around as a big fat lad sometimes yknow? but its hard when theres a +2 apt and theres generally some kinda mace worth picking up pretty quick and

My feeling is that the character of the species and the way it fulfills a particular melee glass cannon niche work better with the very high m&f aptitude. I understand wanting other choices to be viable, but aside from just going for coolness or different experiences, weapon choices aren�t very interesting in Crawl to begin with, so I don�t think it�s a terrible sacrifice. There are also enough species available overall that equating weapon choice with species choice is okay in a few cases. That�s admittedly a subjective opinion, though.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 16:13

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

Is there some kind of way to open the skills menu automatically when i start a game? I constantly forget to set my skill training in the beginning.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 16:59

Bogart: Apr 12, 2010; by VideoGames

Tollymain posted:

i just want to swing something else around as a big fat lad sometimes yknow? but its hard when theres a +2 apt and theres generally some kinda mace worth picking up pretty quick and

add a new racial skill for giant creatures that lets them pick up a small wounded enemy and use it as a cudgel

# ? Nov 14, 2018 19:47

RPATDO_LAMD: Mar 22, 2013; 🐘🪠🍆

tweet my meat posted:

Is there some kind of way to open the skills menu automatically when i start a game? I constantly forget to set my skill training in the beginning.

You can do it with a lua script in the rc file:

code:

######################################################################
# To automatically open the skill menu when starting a new game, add
# the following to your options file.

{
local need_skills_opened = true
function ready()
  if you.turns() == 0 and need_skills_opened then
    need_skills_opened = false
    crawl.sendkeys("m")
  end
end
}

######################################################################

# ? Nov 14, 2018 19:54

Speleothing: May 6, 2008; Spare batteries are pretty key.

Aumanor posted:

Deep Elf, purest of blaster casters. Pray for an early Vehu altar.

E: Speaking of blaster casters, can I petition for Gooncrawl to move Buddysphere back to lvl 4? That change is what made me drop conjurers.

E2: Speaking of buddysphere and having checked the wiki, can I petition for Gooncrawl to put Buddysphere back into the conjurations starting book?

Battlesphere is too good to be only level 4.
That being said, Force Lance is a very nice spell that you'll be glad you took.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 20:06

CAPT. Rainbowbeard: Apr 5, 2012; My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.; Lipstick Apathy

Sludge elves are the only good elves.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 20:25

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

the only good elf is a dead elf

thankfully, you can repeat this hundreds of times over in the Elven Halls

# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:09

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

This ogre wizard I've got going might be the run. I found a yred altar on d2 so it's not exactly a difficult run, but hey if I get yred early for once I may as well. I'm to the point where I can either go all in on conjurations with IMB from a book of conjurations or go all in on the dumb utility gimmick spells with ring of fire and alli. I like the idea of a ring of flames, but how well do friendly summons deal with it?

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

You can do it with a lua script in the rc file:

Just what I needed! This plus skill targets makes distributing xp a breeze instead of a chore.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:13

Aumanor: Nov 9, 2012

Speleothing posted:

Battlesphere is too good to be only level 4.
That being said, Force Lance is a very nice spell that you'll be glad you took.

It used to be lvl 4 when I was starting at the game. It was pretty much my entire early game plan when going DECj.

# ? Nov 14, 2018 21:44

Serephina: Nov 8, 2005; 恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Battlesphere is still totally dope at lvl5. I can sort of understand getting rid of it; BS totally eclipses everything else a Cj has due to being the holy grail of Conjuration spells; a mana efficient, single-target, omni-applicable nuke. For comparison; IMB isn't as mana efficient by a mile, and IooD is unreliable.

The trouble with cutting it out of the starting spellbook is that it's totally implausible to have it randomly spawn in time for a character to be able to make good use if it. If it's not in a starting book, you might as well cut it from the game.

DECjs can and should beeline it anyways; you have +1/+3 in the relevant apts, and Oh no, you now how a lot of points in charms, whatever shall you do?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 13:00

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

Poulpe posted:

This game is coded in C++?! Aw hell
Don't give me a reason to take on a new hobby you guys D:

this is not a sane person's reaction to learning that something is written in c++

# ? Nov 15, 2018 13:11

Poulpe: Nov 11, 2006; Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

Jazerus posted:

this is not a sane person's reaction to learning that something is written in c++

C++ Dev Gonna C++ :shepface:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 17:49

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

Nearly took this last ogre wizard of yred all the way. Struggled a bit with snake, literally just o tabbed through shoals without casting a spell, then my army finally hit the wall in vaults 5 which I wanted to try taking head on with my undead and summoned army.

I always regret taking yred as a caster because it just becomes a game of trying to do cool stuff with your spells before your squad of servitors and bone dragons slaughter everything. The big end vaults are really fun but the majority of the game you just overwhelm everything.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 01:37

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

# ? Nov 16, 2018 07:14

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i dont know how to code and i dont know c++ but also im waiting for this pull request process thing and i want to dump this bunch of bad species concepts on yall already. never underestimate the power of a sufficiently determined moron to bullshit a thing

apparently ive pushed the species list too large and a couple species are available but not visible til theyre highlighted (shortcut still works too)

im not entirely sure how to fix that but i figure its ok for a little while considering two are basically proposals to overhaul existing species

# ? Nov 16, 2018 08:34

goatsestretchgoals: Jun 4, 2011

look im sure it's easy to just pick up c++ and work o

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/Makefile

oh

E: not trying to be a dick but holy gently caress do not do c++ as a first language, as a person who did c++ as a first language

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Nov 16, 2018

# ? Nov 16, 2018 08:58

Teal: Feb 25, 2013; by Nyc_Tattoo

I'd like to introduce you to my project where I reimplement the whole of Dungeon Crawl in python

# ? Nov 16, 2018 09:09

goatsestretchgoals: Jun 4, 2011

Teal posted:

I'd like to introduce you to my project where I reimplement the whole of Dungeon Crawl in python

code:

def spawn_unique(floor_num):
    if floor_num == 2:
        spawn(SIGMUND)
    else:
        spawn(None)

# ? Nov 16, 2018 09:16

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

goatsestretchgoals posted:

look im sure it's easy to just pick up c++ and work o

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/Makefile

oh

E: not trying to be a dick but holy gently caress do not do c++ as a first language, as a person who did c++ as a first language

the key is im stone blown on weed and i have no idea what im doing

# ? Nov 16, 2018 09:29

goatsestretchgoals: Jun 4, 2011

memory is cheap, free() is just something big ram pushes to move product imo

# ? Nov 16, 2018 09:33

RPATDO_LAMD: Mar 22, 2013; 🐘🪠🍆

just program the game to save to disk and force restart every 2 hours and it'll automatically free everything at once, no need to do it manually

# ? Nov 16, 2018 10:02

Dee Ehm: Apr 10, 2014

So after being away from crawl for maybe a year or more, I got in the mood again and decided to play a game. Decide to go with an Octopode Assassin.

D1 goes fine. D2 I step into a teleport trap and find myself facing a D2 Centaur. Not to worry, as I avoid him and run immediately into Robin, and turn around again to find Sigmund.

gently caress you too Crawl. Good to be back.

# ? Nov 17, 2018 07:26

tweet my meat: Oct 2, 2013; yospos

Every game is a xom game to some extent

# ? Nov 17, 2018 18:37

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

so, uh, what does it look like when the Abyssal Rune spawns, anyway

I've been wandering in and out of the Abyss for nearly half of this game so far and it hasn't shown up yet

# ? Nov 18, 2018 11:02

Microcline: Jul 27, 2012

- The rune only spawns at A:3 and below, and most players wouldn't recommend going deeper unless you know what you're doing.
- Every time the game spawns an item it might spawn the rune instead, with a corresponding vault
- Rune vaults are all handcrafted, and are thus can usually be recognized. There's only a few of them and you'll easily remember them across games, but good general advice is (taken from Majang's guide)

quote:

As said above, this rune is always found in a vault-like structure (only on level 3 or below). When you see something with doors, or with anything resembling a symmetrical lay-out, or a ring of trees, or a place guarded by lightning spires, go and investigate. Chances are that you have found the rune. But you need to be careful, as there is usually a strong guard placed around the rune.

You'll find it eventually, although sometimes it takes a while.

# ? Nov 18, 2018 11:54

nerve: Jan 2, 2011; SKA SUCKS

Victory Position posted:

so, uh, what does it look like when the Abyssal Rune spawns, anyway

I've been wandering in and out of the Abyss for nearly half of this game so far and it hasn't shown up yet

I've never seen the rune a single time and I've spent at least an hour looking for it on the correct levels

# ? Nov 18, 2018 16:44

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Abyssal Rune always feels so all or nothing to me. Either you find it in like five minutes after Sonja grazes you once, or you spend so long in there you feel like you're level grinding.

Edit: Or you spend fifteen minutes in there and get murdered by Starmasses.

# ? Nov 18, 2018 19:37

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 04:44

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

I've gotten down to Abyss:10 and have far more rations than when I first started looking for it :confuoot:

# ? Nov 18, 2018 22:32

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