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JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Asking because even though it's my day off, I can't shut my industry brain off.

What's a buyout? I'm guessing it means someone's renting your space with open bar or something like that.

And man that sucks about NYE. If there's one perk I love about this job, it's that we close at 3pm. (Coming in at 4am on New Years Day.... Now that sucked all the balls. We only close on Thanksgiving and Xmas)

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TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Yeah, that's when a large party says 'we'd like to rent your space for a party big enough its gonna mess up the rest of your service, just give us a price for the whole thing and night'.

Basically its what happens when you turn a venue into a catering event short-term. Often has things like 'where are we gonna fit the band' and 'sure we'll pay for an open bar'.


Glad to see your spirits are up, jd! (I'd take a PM to the GFM as well - i had a few words of advice from last page, and accidentally closed the tab writing so it got lost. Now i'm not sure its merited and this is easier. Take your win!)

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Manuel Calavera posted:

Yo, I'll be moving in a month and have freedom then.

Also I've debated posting this. But gently caress it, I'll do it. I've told my furry friends/fam. But this is the first I've said it outside of that circle.

I had a realization about things. So. Rather than tell the whole story about it, the short version. I'm a trans girl, I just didn't realize it for over a decade. Y'all are family, you industry goons. And yall are good and cool. <3

e - also I'm still down to throw money at the GFM. That's the last I'll talk about it. got a PM.

Cool! Let me know.

Also hooray for your realization. I hope everything gets better for you

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

JacquelineDempsey posted:

Asking because even though it's my day off, I can't shut my industry brain off.

What's a buyout? I'm guessing it means someone's renting your space with open bar or something like that.

And man that sucks about NYE. If there's one perk I love about this job, it's that we close at 3pm. (Coming in at 4am on New Years Day.... Now that sucked all the balls. We only close on Thanksgiving and Xmas)

I was very close to giving my notice last Weds, but my boss kind of talked me out of it. It will be time soon, but I have some big projects I'd like to finish up. I'm bummed about NYE but it's not all that bad - the BF is working anyhow, albeit at a music venue, so I was going to meet him there to smooch, but instead we will have NY Day together.

Yeah, a buyout is when someone wants to have a private event and "buy out" the whole restaurant for a private party. Private events is what keeps most big restaurants afloat (although we are very popular/busy anyhow) so we have three private dining spaces of varying sizes in addition to the "main floor" and bought another building to build more. Spring/summer/fall is usually weddings and December is holiday parties, generally for venture capital and law firms. It ain't cheap either - minimum spend starts at 30k depending on the day of the week/month of the year. But servers get pissed and burnt out, guests inevitably get too drunk and puke/piss/poo poo themselves, party planners are insane, etc. It's not a lot of fun.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Cool! Let me know.

Also hooray for your realization. I hope everything gets better for you

Sometime after the new year I'll be free. End of January at the earliest, let's say. And thanks bubie. 💜

bloody ghost titty
Oct 23, 2008

tHROW SOME D"s ON THAT BIZNATCH

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

Noooooooo run away!!

I am so loving burnt out.

Please kill me.

E: maybe look at brand work? Seems like a nice halfway point between sales & managing.

I went brand side and I am shitposting from the back of an uber on my expense account and I also went to a F&F for an incredible high profile opening last night to pair highballs with ramen. That is my job. Also I’m organizing a skeeball competition.

Oh, and did I mention the life insurance? It’s free, and it’s two years of my salary. If I kick it, my cousin gonna buy a house.

You wanna get in on the real racket? Get a job with the distributor. Sales is always gonna be the bottom line, so get your commission and go home by 5.

seance snacks
Mar 30, 2007

Can someone PM me the thing we're not supposed to talk about?

Also I know you said how the cost of living is low in Roanoke, have you considered Charlottesville or RVA?

I'm not in the industry, but both my roommates are and I've heard them talk about people going RVA->Cville because of the restaraunts there.

ApolloSuna
Sep 15, 2018
Did a deep scrub last night and the opener told me it looks nice and they will try and keep it clean. I almost threw something. Also I bought a juul to quit smoking.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If you have questions about your new robot dick. Come to the vape thread in TCC.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

ApolloSuna posted:

Did a deep scrub last night and the opener told me it looks nice and they will try and keep it clean. I almost threw something. Also I bought a juul to quit smoking.

It worked for me. I don’t smoke anything but the occasional cigar anymore. Been over a year since I had a cigarette.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Errant Gin Monks posted:

It worked for me. I don’t smoke anything but the occasional cigar anymore. Been over a year since I had a cigarette.

:same:

October 2017 was the last one I had, thanks to my e-cig. I know vapes have a bad reputation but my lungs feel so much better, highly recommended for anyone looking to quit.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




They probably aren't great for you, but cigarettes are really loving bad for you, so whatever it takes to quit sucking down cancer.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Yeah, it's one of those situations where they're almost certainly bad for you, but also almost certainly better than the alternative. Just don't be that guy blowing massive clouds indoors "because it's just water vapor dude!"

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
I'm torn on e-cigs because there's theoretically a potential harm reduction angle, a lot of people think there's a valid harm reduction/stop smoking angle, and the e-cig companies advertise as a harm reduction/stop smoking product, but they also sued the FDA to prevent them from evaluating e-cigs for that purpose. E-cigs might theoretically help current smokers in some cases, but the companies behind them somehow, against all odds, make the conventional tobacco industry seem like angels. The underlying goal is (I mean it's obvious, but worth emphasizing) to simplify, intensify, proliferate, and profit off of addiction. They're also absolutely 1000% designed from the ground up to appeal to kids and new users. The FDA's trying to crack down, but there's already a new generation of e-cig users formed in high schools nationwide. There's been something like a doubling of nicotine product use in groups below 18, and I don't even want to think about fedora markets.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 16, 2018

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



I'm really curious how they make tobacco companies look like angels unless you mean the Phillips-Morris of today and not of 1970.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Shooting Blanks posted:

I'm really curious how they make tobacco companies look like angels unless you mean the Phillips-Morris of today and not of 1970.

Agressively marketing products to kids/teens. Joe Camel was put down in the late 90s because the government decided it was too close to advertising to children.

"Popcorn Lung" is a thing that's not unknown because dozens if not hundreds of these vape companies sprang up in a matter of years and starting making all kinds of crazy flavors as cheaply as they can and chucking nicotine in them haphazardly. I'm pretty the only reason there is any QA being done is the companies know it just takes a few people to get a batch with elevated nicotine and have strokes or whatever.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Ever vaper I've met smells like artificially flavored strawberry

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos
Seems sorta weird that these mass-market vape companies have so far stuck to nicotine as the only payload, though. There must be a bunch of other awesome, legal alkaloids you can package up for teens to freebase IPHONE STYLE.

I guess meth has kinda put a crimp on ephedrine's marketability. There are still many highly skilled chemical researchers worldwide who could be coming up with cool poo poo to put in USB-compatible tubes that kids can suck into their lungs for good times.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Shooting Blanks posted:

I'm really curious how they make tobacco companies look like angels unless you mean the Phillips-Morris of today and not of 1970.

The last data I had was from 2016, but at least 90% of the e-cig market is controlled by tobacco companies---but not domestic tobacco companies. Shady, "we were once a division of a japanese company but now have a fictional address somewhere in central China" companies. They're also way more sophisticated about blocking regulations than the old guys were (though the old guard were more effective, because public perception hadn't shifted yet). Big tobacco sort of slid sideways into targeting kids, and their industry had roots before the full harms of tobacco or addiction were known. With e-cig companies, getting kids addicted, and having plausible deniability on the harms (so that society acts like addiction itself isn't a harm) is the business model.

marshalljim posted:

Seems sorta weird that these mass-market vape companies have so far stuck to nicotine as the only payload, though. There must be a bunch of other awesome, legal alkaloids you can package up for teens to freebase IPHONE STYLE.

I guess meth has kinda put a crimp on ephedrine's marketability. There are still many highly skilled chemical researchers worldwide who could be coming up with cool poo poo to put in USB-compatible tubes that kids can suck into their lungs for good times.

They are absolutely aware. It's one of the reasons they've cultivated a homebrew middlemarket. They're never going to go whole hog into stronger substances, because their ultimate goal is a userbase that's extremely addicted and suffering minimal other harms- and nicotine's fantastic for the first part of that.

They're also looking to capitalize on marijuana legalization, which might sound ok if it weren't for the whole "we are trying to maximize addiction potential and sell to kids" thing.

Sorry to derail, I've spent awhile poking at the regulation and research on this and couldn't resist sharing. In any case, if you're going to start vaping, try to buy from one of the big companies, not some dude's homebrew, and try to avoid increasing your dosage.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Nov 17, 2018

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year
I hate the holidays

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


kittenmittons posted:

I hate the holidays

:same:

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

kittenmittons posted:

I hate the holidays


I hate the holidays

I hate the liquor store bill!

I hate when cooks call out

Now I have to work the grill!

Chef de yada, chef de yada, chef de yada....

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



You know what sucks worse than coming in at 4 or 5 am?

Coming in at 4 or 5 am and your KM has the radio tuned to a station playing nothing but Xmas music. Yeah, that Bing Crosby is really getting me pumped for the day, boss. So yeah, gently caress holidays, or at least the music.

That's why I actually like working brunch; it's KMs day off (GM, who normally handles FOH, runs the show), and we found a new radio station that plays nothing but old school metal :black101:. Creeping Death by Metallica? Now THAT gets me amped up on a bleary-eyed Sunday morning.

What a weird rear end brunch today. Had one guy, new but seemed to be an a-lister, pull a no call no show; then an hour into service our senior-most cook got called out by expo on delivering really lovely product, to which he responded "I don't loving care." So GM sent him home. Thank the gods we were kinda slow today, being down 2 people.

Also (if this talk isn't kosher, LiquidCommie, I'll edit it out), lookin' like Tuesday might be The Big Day that JD takes her car in, that's my next day off, when I can dick around with tow trucks and mechanics and walking home a couple miles from the shop while they work on Pilar.
So. loving. Excited.

Shabadu
Jul 18, 2003

rain dance


Our AM guy coin flips between pandora stations of Yacht/Dad Rock and Disco/Funk. The smooth sounds of hall and oates are just way easier to deal with at 8am than donna summer.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
All Christmas music should be banned. It’s not fair that you can just cobble together a bunch of lovely notes and get it played just because it’s Christmas.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Shabadu posted:

Our AM guy coin flips between pandora stations of Yacht/Dad Rock and Disco/Funk. The smooth sounds of hall and oates are just way easier to deal with at 8am than donna summer.

Fun derail story: prior to doing industry, back in the late 90s, I was manager for a used CD store. One of my fellow managers, a dude in his 20s, was dating a much older woman who bought tickets to see Hall & Oates at the Indian casino upstate. All us hipper-than-thou music geeks laughed at his plight at getting dragged on this date to watch a couple dinosaurs play their greatest hits.

Apparently his way of coping with this was to get poo poo-faced drunk, and, in solidarity for being the underdog, yelling "OOOOOOOAAAAATES!" repeatedly throughout the show. His gf was mortified; we were in hysterics hearing him talk about it the next day.

My KM likes to play the oldies station, and while I got no beef against Hall & Oates (if anything, it makes me a little sniffly because my mom loved them, we had 45s of their singles that she'd play all the time), I will randomly yell "OOOOOATES!" whenever they come on the radio.

number 1 snake fan
Jul 16, 2018

Iirc there was a study that found Christmas music to be distracting and bad for mental health

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I always thought the major problem with Christmas music is that it's an incredibly small genre and most of it is terrible. If you are listening to that for 8 hours straight there's going to be at least 14 songs that you hear more than 5 times.

ApolloSuna
Sep 15, 2018
http://www.lifeinbmajor.com/2009/03/22/hall-oates-hip-hops-favorite-source-to-sample/

Just sayin. I play 90s rock, soundtracks, and shuffle music. But then ya still got to throw in just random poo poo.

In other news I get to set up the Thanksgiving meal. On top of normal operations(why anyone will order anything with a free spread next to them who knows but still gotta be open) Im planning for about 125-150 but since we are open to the public I have no idea how many will show up in addition. Also it will be donated food that I have no idea how much or what I will get. People will want to come and volunteer, but I dont know how many. So yeah cater for an unknown amount of people with an unknown amount of food for Thanksgiving. I got a vauge idea but still wont have vaguely solid numbers until Wednesday night. Gonna do green bean casserole, deviled eggs, cranberry sauce, and some coffee cowboy pork/bean thing. I know Ill have a few turkeys available and was planning on doing a smoked, deep fried, baked, and grilled one plus got a few hams. Hopefully can fill in with the rest. What really sucks is Im going to have to be managing the shitshow instead of working the line. I got two solid guys to help, but I loving hate having to put food out I dont make.

One cool thing tho is Im kinda creating this hub for donations to get dropped off in general. Since we dont have the space/manpower to feed all the homeless in Dallas I can atleast get food sent to the people that can.

Gonna yell out "OOOOOOAATS" randomly now tho.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
The secret Hall and Oates banger is "crime pays." It's the only Hall and Oates song you need.

The one true heezy
Mar 23, 2004

Skwirl posted:

I always thought the major problem with Christmas music is that it's an incredibly small genre and most of it is terrible. If you are listening to that for 8 hours straight there's going to be at least 14 songs that you hear more than 5 times.

Nope. The major problem with Christmas music is that it's about Christmas. Nobody wants to hear Christmas songs while they're working thanksgiving dinner and their family is filling the text chain with songs of resounding joy.

That being said, I still think about that cribs episode where Mariah Carey is getting into her bath tub while I hear her Christmas song, and I sure can't wait for Rihanna's Christmas album.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer
Wonderful Christmastime is murderin' music

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Babylon Astronaut posted:

The secret Hall and Oates banger is "crime pays." It's the only Hall and Oates song you need.

That's a really funny way to spell Rich Girl.

Oldsrocket_27
Apr 28, 2009
What's the dumbest reason you've ever seen someone walk out on their job in the kitchen for?

A few weeks ago at my buffet gig (one more Sunday before I'm done!) we were pretty slow, done with last night's banquet dishes, ahead on regular restaurant dishes, through the brunch/lunch rush, and one of the dishwashers says he wants to walk the block to a Subway and get a sandwich, because he's been powering though all the banquet poo poo all morning and he's hungry. Exec Chef says "Okay, just punch out before you go," and the dude flips out about he's been busting rear end all day, he's hungry and he's not even allowed to have a sandwich. Chef keeps reiterating that he can go get a sandwich, but he can't be leaving to go to Subway on the clock, just punch out and punch back in. Dude threatens to, and eventually does, just walk out. He sends a text message to Chef saying "well if I've gotta punch out then I'm just driving home to eat." He did not keep his job. Dumbest poo poo I've seen, quitting because you're not going to get paid for being allowed to leave mid shift to get a sandwich.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
...or they could have just fed the guy. Doesn’t seem that dumb of a reason to me.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
Unpaid meal breaks are bullshit

Naelyan
Jul 21, 2007

Fun Shoe
Not getting free meals in a restaurant (especially one with a loving buffet) is bullshit.

Oldsrocket_27
Apr 28, 2009
He does/did get free buffet food and meal breaks on the clock. He could also make himself a free sandwich at work or have some soup and eat it on a paid meal break. He could order off the menu at 1/2 price and eat it on the clock, etc. He didn’t want any of that, he had his heart set on Subway. It’s company policy that if you’re leaving work for anything but a work related errand, you’ve got to clock out (smoke breaks or taking a chillout break in your car or whatever not included).

Oldsrocket_27 fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 19, 2018

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Did more F&B business than any other hotel in our brand for the entire year, having only opened in March, and we have the most organized, disciplined, professional, etc. culinary team in the whole company imo. Not even a week after F&B con, quite a few of my cooks have been offered CdP positions across the U.S, lots of CdPs and Sous being offered positions all over, and so on.

It's nice to see my team get the recognition they deserve, and the promotions/pay to go with it.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Oldsrocket_27 posted:

He does/did get free buffet food and meal breaks on the clock. He could also make himself a free sandwich at work or have some soup and eat it on a paid meal break. He could order off the menu at 1/2 price and eat it on the clock, etc. He didn’t want any of that, he had his heart set on Subway. It’s company policy that if you’re leaving work for anything but a work related errand, you’ve got to clock out (smoke breaks or taking a chillout break in your car or whatever not included).

Makes sense from a bloodless HR perspective. If you're on the clock, you're the company's liability. You get hurt crossing the street to get to subway, but are on the clock, you could come back at them.

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