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If you're thinking about the 500GB version and have a free M.2 slot, the NVME HP ex920 500GB is currently $90 on Newegg.
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Looks like NewEgg also has 1TB EVO 860 2.5" at 127.99 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147673&ignorebbr=1
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I bought a Crucial MX300 275GB drive a couple of years ago to use as a boot drive. A few months ago I was unable to boot Windows, so I formatted the drive, did a clean install and moved on. Two days ago, the same thing happened, but now I can't even format the drive. If I format through the Windows installer, I subsequently get an error when I try to install the OS. If I try using diskpart, the format process never moves past 0%. Is my SSD dead?
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Nov 18, 2018 14:18
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You could check the SMART data. Most likely, yes, it is dead.
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Nov 18, 2018 14:21
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Stickman posted:If you're thinking about the 500GB version and have a free M.2 slot, the NVME HP ex920 500GB is currently $90 on Newegg. This or the WD Black 500GB NVMe for $99 on Amazon? [Edit] Hmm, WD has better warranty.
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Nov 18, 2018 18:57
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Try a new cable on that ssd. Sure does sound dead though.
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Nov 18, 2018 19:25
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teagone posted:This or the WD Black 500GB NVMe for $99 on Amazon? HP bumped up the warranty on the 512 GB and 1TB versions to 5 years. Also, Newegg has the 1TB HP EX920 for $165.
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Nov 18, 2018 22:03
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Nov 19, 2018 02:26
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I currently have an 850 EVO SATA III drive in my gaming PC. Are regular SATA M.2 drives the same speed as their 2.5" counterparts? Would the only upgrade be an NVMe drive? Any standout deals right now? I see the 500GB 970 Evo for $117 on amazon. There's also the 1TB 860 Evo for $128 but maybe that's no faster than my 850? I'm aware I'll need an add-on card plus a modified bios for an NVMe to work with my Z87 mobo.
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Nov 19, 2018 04:44
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KingKapalone posted:I currently have an 850 EVO SATA III drive in my gaming PC. Are regular SATA M.2 drives the same speed as their 2.5" counterparts? my understanding of this is that an M.2 SATA drive is the same speed as regular SSD drives on a SATA. M.2 is more like a connector which can support different bus interfaces (SATA, PCIe/NVMe, USB, etc.)
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KingKapalone posted:I currently have an 850 EVO SATA III drive in my gaming PC. Are regular SATA M.2 drives the same speed as their 2.5" counterparts? Yes, SATA performance is the same regardless of connection format. The HP ex920 512GB is $90 at Newegg, but only for the next 2 hours! Prices are expected to continue to drop for a while, though, so we'll likely see these prices (or better) again in the future.
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I have never heard of an HP SSD before. Are they considered decent, reliability-wise?
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Unless you need more space right now I'd recommend waiting as long as you can because the prices are cratering. They'll probably continue to decline well into next year.
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SourKraut posted:HP bumped up the warranty on the 512 GB and 1TB versions to 5 years. Good to know! Looks like the WD Black is out of stock now. RIP. I'm finalizing my parts list, and I just saw Micro Center will knock off $10 from a 970 EVO 500GB NVMe when I bundle it with an eligible CPU, bringing it down to $104.99 with the $5 off $30 coupon. Hmm.
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Could you link this $5 off $30 coupon for Micro Center?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Could you link this $5 off $30 coupon for Micro Center? It's the retailmenot exclusive coupon that's been around for a while. I used it back in 2015 too heh. https://www.retailmenot.com/view/microcenter.com
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teagone posted:It's the retailmenot exclusive coupon that's been around for a while. I used it back in 2015 too heh. https://www.retailmenot.com/view/microcenter.com Yeah, shortly after asking, I ran a search for "Micro Center Coupon" and found it. I was thinking about using it on a trio of ML120s, since I plan on going push-pull on my H150i PRO (since every degree counts with a 9900K), and since I heavily plan on using Red and Blue when it comes to RGB, I figured the front three fans on my radiator poking out from under the Evolv X's front should be white. Red, white, and blue. 
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Strong Sauce posted:just realized my m2 slot only fit for 60mm ssds Oof, that's a little rough; most are 80 mm but after that 42 mm seems the second-most common length (which you may be able to fit if your device has another mounting point.) On that subject, what happened to the Toshiba RC100 480 GB version? It was a single-chip DRAMless NVMe 42 mm model but the highest-capacity 480 GB part seems to have been de-listed from e-tailers like Amazon & Newegg.  Edit: That 1 TB 2.5" SSD for $100 is back for a couple weeks. Atomizer fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Strong Sauce posted:just realized my m2 slot only fit for 60mm ssds https://www.amazon.com/Express-NGFF-Adapter-Heatsink-Support/dp/B01MY5FSZO 
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KingKapalone posted:Would the only upgrade be an NVMe drive? NVMe won't improve anything on a gaming PC, and having to go through extra hoops to make it work is doubly useless. Put your money in the piggy bank to save for upgrading the whole machine.
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Klyith posted:NVMe won't improve anything on a gaming PC, and having to go through extra hoops to make it work is doubly useless. Put your money in the piggy bank to save for upgrading the whole machine. Oh I thought that was the new thing? I guess I don't need a hard drive.
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KingKapalone posted:Oh I thought that was the new thing? I guess I don't need a hard drive. NVMe is faster than sata, a lot faster. But average desktop and gaming stuff is not constrained by the bandwidth limitations of sata so it's not really visible. During a level load a sata SSD can supply data fast enough that the game is spending more time waiting on the CPU and memory while setting up the geometry and stuff. For now the performance advantage of NVMe is useful to people doing databases, high-end video editing, servers, etc.
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I know that not all m2 slots support NVMe drives, but is there a chance to encounter m2 slots that do suport NVMe but not Sata drives?
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Klyith posted:NVMe is faster than sata, a lot faster. But average desktop and gaming stuff is not constrained by the bandwidth limitations of sata so it's not really visible. During a level load a sata SSD can supply data fast enough that the game is spending more time waiting on the CPU and memory while setting up the geometry and stuff. While you're right and switching won't provide any appreciable benefit to the average gamer, the advantage of NVMe isn't just in throughput but also in the lower latency and higher queue depths the protocol provides.
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Sininu posted:I know that not all m2 slots support NVMe drives, but is there a chance to encounter m2 slots that do suport NVMe but not Sata drives?
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KingKapalone posted:Oh I thought that was the new thing? I guess I don't need a hard drive. As has been said, if you're going from a low-end SSD, NVME can probably start nudging into "a little noticeable" realm in terms of improvement for a gamer, but it's pretty small. Since you have a 850 EVO, I don't think you'll notice anything significant. If you need to get a new hard drive anyway, NVME is still probably in the "Not Worth the Money", but the ADATA or HP drives are not too far outside the price/perf curve to be ridiculous. I needed a new drive recently and got the ADATA just because I wanted to see what one was like and didn't really mind spending the 15% upcharge.
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Lockback posted:As has been said, if you're going from a low-end SSD, NVME can probably start nudging into "a little noticeable" realm in terms of improvement for a gamer, but it's pretty small. Since you have a 850 EVO, I don't think you'll notice anything significant. So the Samsungs will probably never be worth it from a gaming performance standpoint until they've replaced the existence of SATA from a price standpoint?
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KingKapalone posted:So the Samsungs will probably never be worth it from a gaming performance standpoint until they've replaced the existence of SATA from a price standpoint? For Home-gaming enthusiast: "Worth it" is subjective, but the samsung line is even further off the price/perf curve, and what Samsung is giving you for the money isn't likely to be something you'd use anyway. I can see some people wanting to pay more for the higher projected rewrites and Samsung's reputation for better QC, but other drives are well exceeding needs for life and performance so in the general use case I'd say spending more isn't going to do anything positive. It's not like the years past where different SSDs actually had significant differences and you had to be careful on what you got. The NVMEs posted here are all solid and will all far exceed what is going to be perceived by a user. For Home Datascience Experiments, servers, etc: You might actually see benefit from the better theoretical throughput and latency, and the rewrite projections might also be significant. I'd still imagine most home users wouldn't see much difference, but if your use cases go beyond gaming then it becomes more of a choice. I still can't see Samsung MSRP being a good bet, but during the sales I think there is a use case where you'd look at the EVO or possibly even Pro line. For Enterprise: The ADATA Home drives/EVO line are not what you need anyway in terms of feature set.
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Ordered my server upgrade parts save for the new boot drive as I'm still considering my options. I managed to get a great deal on a motherboard that has two M.2 slots (MSI B450M Mortar). According to the manual, the 1st M.2 slot supports PCIe 3.0 x4, PCIe 3.0 x2, and SATA, and the 2nd slot near the chipset supports PCIe 2.0 x4. So to my understanding, the second M.2 slot won't work with regular SATA M.2 drives, right? It'd only work with an NVMe drive, but operate "slower" since it's PCIe 2.0?
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teagone posted:Ordered my server upgrade parts save for the new boot drive as I'm still considering my options. I managed to get a great deal on a motherboard that has two M.2 slots (MSI B450M Mortar). According to the manual, the 1st M.2 slot supports PCIe 3.0 x4, PCIe 3.0 x2, and SATA, and the 2nd slot near the chipset supports PCIe 2.0 x4. So to my understanding, the second M.2 slot won't work with regular SATA M.2 drives, right? It'd only work with an NVMe drive, but operate "slower" since it's PCIe 2.0? Basically, yes and yes. m.2 is the form factor, and can support any electrical interface from: USB, PCIe, SATA. To be on the safe side I'd assume that 2nd slot is NVMe only if it doesn't explicitly state SATA support (and USB, if present, would be for some accessory like a Wifi card) and it might nominally be a bottleneck for a fast SSD, but in practice I don't think you'll be in a position to notice.
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Lambert posted:You could check the SMART data. Most likely, yes, it is dead. LRADIKAL posted:Try a new cable on that ssd. Sure does sound dead though. It was the SATA cable, thanks for your help. On a positive note, I now have an extra SSD.
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I've had 2 SATA cables die on me in the last 5 or 6 years and I haven't had any hard drive die on me since like 1999. I don't know what the deal is with SATA cables but they seem to want to die as a natural state.
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Did you save up all the dead ones to switch into a co-workers PC?
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priznat posted:I’ve been messing with NVMeoF (over Fabric) at work and it is really slick. 100GbE with an array of x4 Gen3 drives over optical   I'm still loving around with stupid IB drivers
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Potato Salad posted:
I go easier with ethernet, IB is a mystery to me. Mellanox dual 100GbE with gen4 x16 PCIe from ibm power9 to mellanox host with drive fanout. Just 3m copper mostly but easy to swap to optical modules. Composable flash systems ahoy!
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Hyper m2+ 4x ex920 1tb in raid0 <700$ for 4tb and 10GBps perf
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Lockback posted:I've had 2 SATA cables die on me in the last 5 or 6 years and I haven't had any hard drive die on me since like 1999. I don't know what the deal is with SATA cables but they seem to want to die as a natural state. They are definitely more poo poo than a simple cable has any right being.
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