Admiral Joeslop posted:

If Vader could do one, young athletic Paul Wight could definitely do one

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Sure, but that assumes he actually tried one. There's video of Vader and Lesnar doing wild poo poo, we've only ever HEARD of Wight doing one.

Gumball Gumption posted:

I think he's like Bryant where he is safe to wrestle with but will only wrestle at top gear and is very self-destructive. Even that is tough to say though, his injury really had nothing to do with him. Dragon Lee either released the suplex when he shouldn't of or Hiromu just sort of slipped out of his hands.

Aphrodite posted:

He does that move with a bridge pin, it’s not supposed to be released. Most likely lost his grip, yeah.

Aesop Poprock posted:

Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use

Aesop Poprock posted:

Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use

The Kimoa Kid posted:

Please, if you're ever going to listen to anything I say, let it be this one time: do not look into this. Do not immerse yourself into Wikipedia rules and decision making. Don't do it, I beg of you. It is a living nightmare.

The Kimoa Kid posted:

Please, if you're ever going to listen to anything I say, let it be this one time: do not look into this. Do not immerse yourself into Wikipedia rules and decision making. Don't do it, I beg of you. It is a living nightmare.

Jerusalem posted:

There's probably one dude who for whatever reason gets to make the final call on this and is just furiously refusing to accept 99% of people noting,"Putting their moves list makes perfect sense and even if it didn't, what the gently caress does it hurt?"

Last time this got brought up, somebody linked to a horrifying discussion page where some guy spent literal YEARS refusing to let Zack Ryder have his own wikipedia page and insisting that anybody looking up Zack had to read a joint page with Curt Hawkins instead.

Edit: I think the page in question basically ended up being like 10% about the Major Brothers/Edgeheads, and the other 90% was intensely detailed breakdowns of Zack Ryder's solo career.

Aesop Poprock posted:

Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use

Aphrodite posted:

It's a group and there was an easy consensus.

They literally told people who complained that just because something is useful and liked doesn't mean it's important.

VJeff posted:

I don't remember any encyclopedias hitting me up for money every stinking time I opened them, so they only seem to have problems modernizing on some fronts.

Gumball Gumption posted:

I wonder if Wiki editors care that something called TVTropes eats their lunch when it comes to maintaining a database on pop culture knowledge.

The Kimoa Kid posted:

The wild thing about this is that the Wikimedia Foundation is, by all accounts, absolutely flush with cash, and they continue to beg and plead as if they're on the verge of shutting down.

Gumball Gumption posted:

When Wikipedia first started they were obsessed with legitimacy because no one was going to take an encyclopedia that anyone can edit seriously. They're still obsessed with it in 2018 and it just leads to tons of draconian rules and insane decisions on what is and isn't becoming of an encyclopedia. They seem to miss that they're a modern institution and can use the digital medium for every trivial fact.

Neodoomium posted:

And after all of that they still aren't and will never be considered a valid academic source.

Sorry, you pedantic dorks!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I just use them as a backdoor source, find their citations and use them accordingly. It's a bit extra work, but it beats sweatin' a 20 page essay.

Jerusalem posted:

EugeneJ posted:

I remember the dumbest loving thing from years back was one editor who kept changing the phrasing of every band name's introduction from "Metallica is" to "Metallica are" and so on

The compromise (still used to this day) is articles for American bands use "is" and articles for British bands use "are"

El Gallinero Gros posted:

There was a thread in PYF that had a derail about marketing with some people claiming that after a certain point, you could argue that Pepsi and Coke don't even really need to advertise. And on paper, that seems sensible, since even underdeveloped countries with virtually no media of their own know those names, but another poster pointed out that Coke used to have less of a stranglehold in the marketplace until one of their competitors eased up on advertising with the same logic and now that company's gone (the company's name was in the post but I don't remember). I think companies that are doing well like Wikimedia probably use the same logic, since, ostensibly, the product is free for anybody with an internet connection.

Alaois posted:

It was Moxie

Alaois posted:

also, just a small contribution to Wikipedia's weirdness about wrestling

Joey Janela doesn't have a wikipedia page

Alaois posted:

also, just a small contribution to Wikipedia's weirdness about wrestling

Joey Janela doesn't have a wikipedia page

Jerusalem posted:

Ahaha my God this is so unbelievably petty. Do they think Joey Janela's Spring Break is made up?

Jerusalem posted:

Ahaha my God this is so unbelievably petty. Do they think Joey Janela's Spring Break is made up?

exploded mummy posted:

They want sources that aren't in the pro wrestling bubble.

Really that isnt being petty, most articles site wide are supposed to be like that.

Y'all are as bad as Bryan Alvarez in trying to cross the barrier between pro wrestling and the rest of the world.

Helicity posted:

NotTheFakeJTP: Joey Janela isn't a real or noteworthy person
also NotTheFakeJTP: here's my wiki page on Paris-based Overwatch esports team 'Paris Eternal': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Eternal

STONE COLD 64 posted:

paris eternal has significant funding and esports are on the mainstream right now with regular coverage from most major sports media outlets. not discrediting the creation of joey janela, he certainly merits his own page after helping promote several cards that were able to draw independently.