Schneider Inside Her posted:

I don’t think BoTW is empty at all. The world is lousy with Korok seeds and Shrines

Calaveron posted:

Neither Aloy nor Geralt are a third as mobile as Link is. If Link didn’t have a stamina meter you’d break the game in half over your knee
And again, just use weapons. There’s only like a handful of weapons and shields that don’t respawn but they’re not like super useful or strong

Maxwell Lord posted:

Encumbrance is a holdover from Dungeons & Dragons, where it was first put in because your goal in that game was to get treasure out of the dungeon however best you could (seriously that was the main source of XP), and so there's actually a lot of logistical thinking, like it matters if the treasure is a gem instead of its equivalent value in gold because it's lighter and more portable but you have to get it appraised, etc.

And pretty much every other RPG since, tabletop or video game, has included it out of a sense of obligation. It's rarely actually useful or needed as a balancing mechanic, and in video games it really stands out because you accumulate so much gd stuff.

Somfin posted:

I do agree that more single-use toys would have made botw more fun. Walking into an extended dungeon with two hookshots, a jar with an evil ghost in it, a baggie of powder that will turn an enemy into a random assortment of drops, half of a raft, a crowbar that'll maybe just bypass one last lock, and a balloon that's got a bit of gas in it yet... That feels consistent with what BOTW was aiming for. They'd have to make dungeons bigger and less linear, with checkpoints, to accomplish it though.

Olaf The Stout posted:

I feel the same people who don’t like the inventory limits in botw probably hated the countdown mechanic in Majoras mask.

Elfgames posted:

the problem with older Zelda games became that they filled your inventory with items that were useful for exactly 1 dungeon and that gets pretty lame the cool items are just fancy keys.

the big lesson nintendo should take away from breath of the wild isn't big open worlds it's giving players a set of tools and then letting them figure out how to progress through the challenges

the divine beasts and shrines are kinda boring like 10 or so bigger dungeons worth really exploring with no one specific way to get through them would be way better

Triarii posted:

Numerical upgrades are never as interesting as functional ones, though. I'd trade all the seeds and spirit orbs in the world for a hookshot, or a power bracelet, or even a weird vase that blows wind.

Or how about some special gloves that let me climb in the rain or something, jeez

Quote-Unquote posted:

Damage Over Time stuff in Divinity: Original Sin 2 is really kinda crap and makes pyromancer and geomancer pretty bad compared to other magic, which have a lot more crowd control stuff. And crowd control is by far the most effective tool, especially if you're playing on hard.

Freezing/stunning/knocking down people (hydrosophist, aerothurge and physical combat) makes them miss a turn, which is way, way more useful than doing an extra couple of hundred damage next turn because it keeps them from doing anything to you. And Charming people is the single most powerful thing in the game, since it not only causes them to effectively miss turns (because they're not attacking you), but they also fight for you. Aerothurge, also, is generally worse than hydrosophist because it's much harder to use elemental affinity (the talent that makes all your spells cost fewer action points if you're standing in an area covered by a related element) since steam clouds aren't something you see all that often unless you spend a bunch of AP setting them up. Whereas hydro can just make it rain, therefore you're standing in water and can quickly freeze the whole combat area, making enemies fall over and/or get frozen - either way, making them miss a turn.

I'm still loving the game. It's amazing. I just don't think it has quite as much variety in how you approach fights as the first one did, where DoT was super-useful.

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

Yeah it was kind of lame that no matter what amazing stuff you encountered or great feats you accomplished all the rewards were essentially the same other than the master sword and the hylian shield which is just lying in a random chest. Like, why did Eventide Island only give me a spirit orb? Why is there absolutely nothing tingle related on tingle island?

It was such a joy to play that i can forgive it mostly but more bespoke loot please

MiddleOne posted:

The real original sin was disrupting the 'put barrels in stuff'-meta of the first game.

Cythereal posted:

Final Fantasy 14: why give me dialogue options if both say the same thing in slightly different ways?

Len posted:

Actually Majora's Mask is the best Zelda

Glukeose posted:

D:OS2 is really annoying me with the swarm fights. It feels like every time the voidwoken appear the encounter design is "8 enemies will appear at once, then when they're dead 8 more will show up." Since it's such a mechanically sound recreation of a tabletop game, it suffers from the DnD problem of too many enemies breaking the action economy.

Triarii posted:

It had exactly the kind of inventory space management that I hate, and it significantly dragged down my experience. Every time I found a chest, opened it to find a fire sword or whatever, then whoops my inventory is full and the sword goes back in the chest, I have to open my inventory and decide what my crappiest sword is so I can throw it across the room and re-open the chest - it made me want to stop playing the game just a little bit more. And that's a decision point that you come to literally hundreds of times throughout the game (and every game with those sorts of inventory limits).

Quote-Unquote posted:

Does that happen often? I remember a bunch of the void slug things doing that in Act 1, and there's a bit when some flying jerks do the same in Arx, but other than I don't remember swarms of things spawning (there's a few times where you're in a fight and then a boss thing appears, though)

We've been playing for like 100 hours at this point so I'm bound to have forgotten some stuff.

Glukeose posted:

Act 1 has the slugs, Act 2 has the group fight on the Lady Vengeance, Act 3 has the magisters in the Blackpits followed by the ink blobs on the oil rig. If not necessarily swarms, at least encounters where the number of enemies has frustrated me.

Captain Hygiene posted:

RareAcumen posted:

Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass weren't the worst things in the world like people sold them to be.

The vehicles were just way too slow for how much traveling you had to do and the fast travel system wasn't good enough either.

Wind Waker let you do a little minigame with the same notes every time and you could go to any map square you'd visited before. Phantom Hourglass wanted you to draw a symbol into a slate and then it'd warp you somewhere into a quadrant of the sea. Spirit Tracks I think you had to shoot a tile and them blow the whistle to get a portal to open up and it'd send you somewhere else on the map that matched with it so you also had to keep notes about that stuff as well.

Deified Data posted:

I just started playing this for the first time a bit ago and yeah the inventory system is butt, and the worst part is I can tell it's intentionally so and not an oversight. Slow progression is nice and increasing inventory size is a satisfying way of representing that but there are a few little changes they could have made to improve the experience drastically. A simple "Your inventory is full. Would you like to discard an item?" prompt would have helped a lot. Or even a way of discarding from the item selection shortcut without menu diving. Being able to heal the same way you can switch your weapon or shield would have been real nice, too.

A further complaint, horses aren't any fun to ride in this game and don't control terribly well. Do solid color horses maneuver better or are they just faster?

Otherwise I'm having a blast, game is good.

Nostradingus posted:

Spirit tracks had great music. And chugging around in the train was fun. But I'm the sicko who liked sailing in wind waker

Elfgames posted:

horses generally become easier to control as you ride them

rodbeard posted:

I wonder if the people saying Majora's Mask wasn't terrible tried to do any side quests without a strategy guide?

Somfin posted:

Or pack that fucker with apples

Len posted:

I've got max bond with my horse but due to his wild temperament he will go from following a road to doing 90 degree turns right into walls

Edit: also I did this following side quest last night, because every open world game needs an AssCreed style trailing mission, and when I got to the end I saved because I was told there was going to be a fight. I got wrecked by this assassin guy. When I loaded my game it was 2am game time and the guy I'd tailed since 10pm game time was gone and I had to start over.


Also anyone who thinks Korok seeds are a fun interesting mechanic would probably enjoy MMOs and the soulless "collect bear rear end" quests

Vic posted:

As far as I know horse temperament only affects the taming process. In full gallop you have a really wide turn radius so this can happen in forks in the road.

But are you sure you enjoy open world games? I'm pretty sure you'll only hate this game more because there's a lot more where that came from.

EDIT: Might as well ask here, do horse taming attempts stack? I found this giant horse and after like 9 attempts I figured I need more stamina. But nothing else yet seems to be gated behind stats and googling I found people saying both yes and no.

Cythereal posted:

Final Fantasy 14: why give me dialogue options if both say the same thing in slightly different ways?