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World Famous W
May 25, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
Abyss remains the one rune in 15 rune games I hate the most (Tomb isn't hate, just fear)

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Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
Does the rune any spawn more aggressively than it does on A:5? Like, is there a reason to dive to A:20 other than bragging rights? I just normally trolled around A:3 unless I was feeling swole and miiiiight try deeper if I was getting bored (pre-infinite depth)

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Anecdotal but I find I have better luck on A4-5 than 3, and it doesn't feel any more common on A6+ .

Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

Gooncrawl status update:
-Ring of Flames and Regeneration are now permabuffs!
-Xom no longer attempts to give you permabuffs, I think (you would get stuck with it turned on and couldn't turn it back off due to the way I implemented it).

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

ah, there we go, my very first 15-rune ascension :unsmith:

code:
678732 NOTAGAIN the Conqueror (level 27, 164/199 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Earth Elementalist on Nov 17, 2018.
             Was the Champion of Vehumet.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 15 runes on Nov 18, 2018!
             
             The game lasted 18:00:19 (179814 turns).

NOTAGAIN the Conqueror (GrEE)                     Turns: 179814, Time: 18:00:20

Health: 164/199    AC: 63    Str: 20    XL:     27
Magic:  54/54      EV: 19    Int: 35    God:    Vehumet [******]
Gold:   8827       SH: 10    Dex: 10    Spells: 8/80 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis +   o - +9 sacred scourge (holy)
rCold    + + +     Gourm    .   a - +3 buckler {AC+3}
rNeg     + + +     Faith    .   X - +6 pearl dragon scales
rPois    8         Spirit   .   L - +2 helmet {SInv}
rElec    +         Reflect  .   Y - scarf {rC+ rF+}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   R - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
MR       +++++     Clarity  +   e - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+}
Stlth    ..........             s - amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar}
HPRegen  0.43/turn              v - ring "Weusolea" {rC+ Int+4}
MPRegen  0.34/turn              y - ring of Muijemul {+Inv rC+ Int+3 Stlth-}

@: no status effects
A: big wings, blurry vision 1, deterioration 1, negative energy resistance 1,
electricity resistance, strong 2, wild magic 1, unbreathing, petrification
resistance, rot immunity, AC +20
0: Orb of Zot
}: 15/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian, icy, bone,
abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark, gossamer
a: Fly, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility


You escaped.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and saw 90 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 1 time, and saw 19 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 12 times.
You visited 2 bazaars.
You visited 1 ziggurat, and saw 24 of its levels.
You also visited: Trove, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You collected 17709 gold pieces.
You spent 8882 gold pieces at shops.
visiting that ziggurat before Pan and Hell turned out to be the winning move, since the Book of Annihilations, and thus, Fire Storm and Glaciate, was in there

Victory Position fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Nov 19, 2018

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
I finally beat this game once ever.

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love

Floodkiller posted:

Gooncrawl status update:
-Ring of Flames and Regeneration are now permabuffs!
-Xom no longer attempts to give you permabuffs, I think (you would get stuck with it turned on and couldn't turn it back off due to the way I implemented it).

Excellent!

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

Kavros posted:

I finally beat this game once ever.

Good job!

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Kavros posted:

I finally beat this game once ever.

Hell yeah!

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

Floodkiller posted:

Gooncrawl status update:
-Ring of Flames and Regeneration are now permabuffs!
-Xom no longer attempts to give you permabuffs, I think (you would get stuck with it turned on and couldn't turn it back off due to the way I implemented it).

I don't know how the server updates work, when do these go live on CBRO? I love permabuffs and especially as I splat GnSk's I can't wait to run all the permabuffs.

Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

Fhqwhgads posted:

I don't know how the server updates work, when do these go live on CBRO? I love permabuffs and especially as I splat GnSk's I can't wait to run all the permabuffs.

CBRO doesn't daily build it, so Johnstein would have to trigger a manual re-build. I haven't been hanging out on ##crawl-dev recently because my client keeps getting disconnected, so I don't know how active Johnstein currently is. However, I don't really like bugging server admins for updates unless I hit a milestone (like, all planned permabuffs implemented instead of just a couple). If you want to head to there or ##crawl and ask him nicely, I'm sure he would update it though.

CPO and X-Crawl are set up to daily build though, so they should be live with the latest dev version if you want it now.

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

Floodkiller posted:

CBRO doesn't daily build it, so Johnstein would have to trigger a manual re-build. I haven't been hanging out on ##crawl-dev recently because my client keeps getting disconnected, so I don't know how active Johnstein currently is. However, I don't really like bugging server admins for updates unless I hit a milestone (like, all planned permabuffs implemented instead of just a couple). If you want to head to there or ##crawl and ask him nicely, I'm sure he would update it though.

CPO and X-Crawl are set up to daily build though, so they should be live with the latest dev version if you want it now.

Cool, didn't know how that worked.

Dee Ehm
Apr 10, 2014
Oh hey an Orc Wizard can double tap an attack with a dagger of Electrocution. And it can deal 24 damage in a single hit.

Check those glowing weapons.

Edit: in the biggest brain move, I died to the Blork the Orc's hand axe of execution on my very next character.

Dee Ehm fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Nov 20, 2018

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i love it

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

I started farting around with FaerieDragonFI (FDFi? FaFI?) and they're surprisingly not bad. I've done D15, Orc, Elf, and Lair and am well positioned to do Shoals and Snake equipment wise. I could see three runing one pretty easy, but I imagine like the other -10HP races they suffer greatly in extended. Lots of gear luck needed though, since you can't rely on armour for resists and AC. My current guy only has 20AC, and I bet you'd never think Cloaks, Boots, Gloves, and Hats were so rare playing one of these guys. Apts seem all right, and you actually get a surprising amount of skilling done when you can't put them in Armour. Throwing and Evo are good ideas because with low AC and low HP you generally don't want people up in your grill.

I was thinking with no armour these guys could be stealthy, but the -5 Stealth apt kind of counters that. However the game seems convinced that I should be since:
- Camouflage skin mutation x2 off the same mutation potion
- Only usable ring before Elf was Stealth
- Only buyable armour before Orc 2 were the boots of the assassin

If you're dumb like me and only play Fi M+F is the way to go for FD because like other Smalls (hobbits) they can get eveningstars. I feel like I'm playing against intended by not doing spellcasting at all though.

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth
how good is a +7 greatsword of speed with +6 dex compared to a +7 morningstar of flaming? i have 16 in maces and 2 in long blades?

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Well, not good. (1.7 base speed - 0.1 from your skill in long blades) * 0.66 from the speed brand means the greatsword takes ~1.067 turns to swing.
Compare this to your morningstar which is 1.5 speed - 0.8 from the skill in maces, which gets you right up to mininum delay of 0.7 turns.

Secondly, greatsword is 16 base damage, -3 base accuracy requiring 2-hands. Morningstar is 13, -1 requiring 1-hand. The Dexterity bonus is really only there to help with evasion and very slightly boosting accuracy. I'd stay with the morningstar, personally, it has greater flexibility with the experience you already invested in Maces.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Slaapaav posted:

how good is a +7 greatsword of speed with +6 dex compared to a +7 morningstar of flaming? i have 16 in maces and 2 in long blades?

It would be really nice if you had 16 in longblades
But by the time you get your LB skill high enough you probably would've found a mace upgrade anyways. And even if you didn't, you'd still have 16 levels worth of extra xp to throw in some other skill to make yourself stronger.
Switching weapon categories at that point is usually not worth it.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Maxes and flails are usually the best class anyway, given the amount of demon whips around.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
That's a funny way to spell Axes.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
A mace is just a blunt axe, after all. :shrug:

Simon The Digger
Dec 23, 2010

Some Kind of Magical Idiot

Kavros posted:

I love all of it! Thank you for Gnolls!

Thank you for convincing me to give Gnolls a try. Everything you said about them is true, and more. It feels so good to be able to murder Siegmund in the face with Mephitic Clouds and sling bullets before yanking the scythe out of his still-warm hands and going ham on some goblins with it. Gnoll Wanderer has to be my favorite new race/class combo in a roguelike.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
small species can 2-hand double swords i think, if you want to live that dream

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth
wall jumped with full hp infront of nikola and died before i landed.



I EVEN HAD A LJATANG OF SPEED

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
close range chain lightning does like 200 damage if you have no rElec and there's nothing else nearby to absorb some of the bounces
nikola is a very spooky dude

mdct
Sep 2, 2011

Tingle tingle kooloo limpah.
These are my magic words.

Don't steal them.

Sage Grimm posted:

A mace is just a blunt axe, after all. :shrug:

But a whip is a leather sword

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Just watched a Korean player on Twitch splat his character in a Zig, but it was interesting because it seemed his crawl had sound effects? Is that an actual thing? I recognized the death SFX from one of the Castlevanias.

Microcline
Jul 27, 2012

Ofecks posted:

Just watched a Korean player on Twitch splat his character in a Zig, but it was interesting because it seemed his crawl had sound effects? Is that an actual thing? I recognized the death SFX from one of the Castlevanias.

From learndb:

quote:

2. CWZ has javascript to extend chat functionality and add sound to WebTiles! To load this, spectate/play a game, open the chat window, and click [Enable Webtiles Additional Function Module]. The chat menu will change, and you can click FX to enable/disable sounds and S to change volume. Click ARc to autoreconnect the watched user and CT to set the chat window transparency.
3. List of message strings and the sound files they trigger: http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/match_data/en.js ; To hear a file, add the .ogg filename to the base URL of http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/ e.g. http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/hellcast.ogg

Sure enough:

code:
en_match_data.push(new MatchData('You die...', 'DeathofSimon.ogg'));
I haven't tried it but I think there are javascript files out there that you can use via greasemonkey to get a similar effect when playing elsewhere.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Someone mentioned earlier that Gnoll was good because it eliminated skilling choices, and most people (including me) disagreed. However one thing I don't mind is Djinni eliminating messing around with food. It's always kind of weird to play some Djinni and then go back to a "normal" character who has to eat; I could see that part of the game being removed entirely (other than purps) and not really having an effect on anything.

Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

No Gooncrawl update this weekend, I'll try to push something out tomorrow or Tuesday.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Scaramouche posted:

I could see that part of the game being removed entirely (other than purps) and not really having an effect on anything.
It's a balancing factor for a few parts of the game, notably Gozag.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

PMush Perfect posted:

It's a balancing factor for a few parts of the game, notably Gozag.

I haven't followed that discussion, but wasn't the "spawn more monsters on level instantiate, spawn less over time" in part supposed to address that? E.g. so you couldn't hang around forever waiting for monsters to spawn for free gold.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
considering doing a windows install compile of this and linking it in the thread, probably shoulda done that to begin with

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Tollymain posted:

considering doing a windows install compile of this and linking it in the thread, probably shoulda done that to begin with
Metoron did them often enough for the OP to mention them, but you're already in the OP as well (as "good idea shotgun" basically), so I don't think anyone would mind if you took up the responsibility.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
hey ive actually made contributions of admittedly dubious quality now its just nobodys played w them yet

Metoron
Jun 5, 2006
Hurm.
Yeah I should probably explain why I'm not making builds even though I really want to, shouldn't I?

Basically the compiler I'm using, MSYS2, updated a binary (gnupg) earlier this month which deletes the command shell for the compiler itself, rendering it unusable, I think, I figured it out after I just sat there reading my compiler and screenshotting where it was in the update process.

If it weren't for this, you guys would have had a couple of dev builds put out by now.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
oh im not directing anything at you more just having a d'oh moment as to why theres no feedback lmao

Cerepol
Dec 2, 2011


Can anyone here contact the X-Crawl.de guys?

the discord link is expired and the site isn't allowing me to create accounts. Seems to hang instead of processing it.

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love
Someone with a modicum on compiling knowledge capable of making a build of the latest version with buffs would be greatly appreciated.

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Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

FulsomFrank posted:

Someone with a modicum on compiling knowledge capable of making a build of the latest version with buffs would be greatly appreciated.

Environment setup and personal builds

Release builds (mostly just Step 8)

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